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#7636    seeder

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 06:03 PM

View PostSlave2Fate, on 25 February 2013 - 05:53 PM, said:

^ This.

I believe that the problem solving skills of ancient cultures possibly surpassed our own today. Necessity is the mother of invention after all. The cognitive and reasoning abilities of ancient cultures is every bit as good then as it is in us today. The people who believe that the ancients sat around in the mud and grunted at each other (metaphorically speaking) are completely clueless and more than a little insulting.

:tu:  Yes and as we see with the ancient timeline page I posted, PP and its builders were late showing up, the rest of the world was already very civilized...something that zoser cant seem to appreciate. I dont know if he knows just how recent 500 ad was  (1500 years ago ZOSER)

Really if he just focused on that one tidbit of chronological FACT - it should in reality put the argument to bed.  But its not what he WANTS to believe in so he swerves the facts all day long,.. :td:

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 08:41 PM

This is how I picture this thread:

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 08:47 PM

View PostSlave2Fate, on 25 February 2013 - 05:53 PM, said:

I believe that the problem solving skills of ancient cultures possibly surpassed our own today. Necessity is the mother of invention after all.

I think we've become numb to problem solving these days because most of it is beyond the average person and intentionally hidden. Look at your cell phone. The battery technology is a result of a series of innovations. The receiver is a collection of innovations in digital reception that were unimagined twenty years ago. Then there's the microprocessor in it that's faster than a desktop computer twenty years ago due to a series of innovations. Hardly anyone knows or cares about this stuff but they expect the next model to be better.


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 08:53 PM

View Postscowl, on 25 February 2013 - 08:47 PM, said:

I think we've become numb to problem solving these days because most of it is beyond the average person and intentionally hidden. Look at your cell phone. The battery technology is a result of a series of innovations. The receiver is a collection of innovations in digital reception that were unimagined twenty years ago. Then there's the microprocessor in it that's faster than a desktop computer twenty years ago due to a series of innovations. Hardly anyone knows or cares about this stuff but they expect the next model to be better.

It is debatable whether technology (as a whole) is helping or hindering us as a species. I'm undecided however I tend to lean toward hindering.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 08:54 PM

View Postseeder, on 25 February 2013 - 05:55 PM, said:

Have I missed anything else that will happen on the never ending groundhog days we spend here?

zoser will scold the skeptics for cursing, insulting and behaving childishly even though we've never cursed and we've been impossibly polite and patient with him actively ignoring all of the sensible arguments we've presented to him.


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 08:55 PM

View PostSweetpumper, on 25 February 2013 - 08:41 PM, said:

This is how I picture this thread:

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Yep, pretty much... :lol:

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 08:57 PM

this has become my morning ritual.. like now (4.55am here in the west of oz) .. I get up.. make a coffee.. grab my packet of cigarettes and the laptop.. have my coffee.. smoke a ciggy or two.. and read this thread and a couple of others.. its the best way to waste 30 mins to a hour (depending on how many posts have been made ) :)


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 08:59 PM

View PostSlave2Fate, on 25 February 2013 - 08:53 PM, said:

It is debatable whether technology (as a whole) is helping or hindering us as a species. I'm undecided however I tend to lean toward hindering.

I think it dumbs us down quite a bit, I still remember when telephone boxes took 2p, and I knew, as a lad, our home number, that of my grans, my real dad, and the girlfriends that came later... plus the area codes

Nowadays, man - I NEED my phone just to remember numbers, as I simply haven't a clue with 99% of the numbers I have. So even in my own life Ive seen my brain get lazy..  Now times that by another couple hundred years of tech and human obesity

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 09:00 PM

View PostSlave2Fate, on 25 February 2013 - 08:53 PM, said:

It is debatable whether technology (as a whole) is helping or hindering us as a species. I'm undecided however I tend to lean toward hindering.

That isn't the debate though. The point is that innovation continues to happen at an incredible rate, far faster than in ancient times due to our higher level of education and understanding of the world and our ability to store and recall vast amounts of information.


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 09:01 PM

View PostSweetpumper, on 25 February 2013 - 08:41 PM, said:

This is how I picture this thread:

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 09:03 PM

View Postscowl, on 25 February 2013 - 08:54 PM, said:

zoser will scold the skeptics for cursing, insulting and behaving childishly even though we've never cursed and we've been impossibly polite and patient with him actively ignoring all of the sensible arguments we've presented to him.

ooh and I just remembered another...then after a little while...its back to the pyramids !!

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 09:10 PM

View Postscowl, on 25 February 2013 - 09:00 PM, said:

That isn't the debate though. The point is that innovation continues to happen at an incredible rate, far faster than in ancient times due to our higher level of education and understanding of the world and our ability to store and recall vast amounts of information.

Oh, I agree that technology has pushed us much farther forward in a shorter time than the ancients had been able to do. Standing on the backs of giants and all that. Is it better to stand on the giant's back, or be the giant though?

Anyway, that's a debate best left for a different thread... :tu:

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 09:24 PM

I know, Lets play count the contradictions shall we?



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Posted 25 February 2013 - 09:40 PM

View PostSlave2Fate, on 25 February 2013 - 08:53 PM, said:

It is debatable whether technology (as a whole) is helping or hindering us as a species. I'm undecided however I tend to lean toward hindering.

I tend towards helping, rather than hindering. I know you and seeder find it differently, but hear me out. I was watching a science program the other day and the presenter asked a neurologist and general brain specialist the exact same question. According to both it doesn't actually hider us, rather than lets our brain use the opened up space and processing power to different things. As they said, we might not know the numbers anymore, but we know how to get to them easily. Same for the internet for example. We know how to retrieve the needed information easily, as opposed to reading an entire book for one bit of info, we retrieve the info we need more directly, more focused if you will.

I could be wrong, but I don't think we are less innovative, but innovations have become more complicated and require more time and brain power, also more technical know-how. Hence we free up space and processing power in our brain and apply it differently with different priorities. And I remember the show now, it was "Dara O'Briain's Science Club" Forth episode if I'm not mistaken.

View Postscowl, on 25 February 2013 - 08:54 PM, said:

zoser will scold the skeptics for cursing, insulting and behaving childishly even though we've never cursed and we've been impossibly polite and patient with him actively ignoring all of the sensible arguments we've presented to him.

I admit I have not allways been nice to him, I do call him Soft Stone Boy, but soddit, he had it coming.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 10:30 PM

View PostTheSearcher, on 25 February 2013 - 09:40 PM, said:

I tend towards helping, rather than hindering. I know you and seeder find it differently, but hear me out. I was watching a science program the other day and the presenter asked a neurologist and general brain specialist the exact same question. According to both it doesn't actually hider us, rather than lets our brain use the opened up space and processing power to different things. As they said, we might not know the numbers anymore, but we know how to get to them easily. Same for the internet for example. We know how to retrieve the needed information easily, as opposed to reading an entire book for one bit of info, we retrieve the info we need more directly, more focused if you will.

I could be wrong, but I don't think we are less innovative, but innovations have become more complicated and require more time and brain power, also more technical know-how. Hence we free up space and processing power in our brain and apply it differently with different priorities. And I remember the show now, it was "Dara O'Briain's Science Club" Forth episode if I'm not mistaken.

Fair point. :tu:

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