astral projection

[xoluna]

I was meditating today and put on a astral projection binaural beats track thinking I might be ready to enter the astral world . I didn't have a full obe but I think I was very close but I tripped out and stopped it from happening .

I'm just wondering if anyone can relate to my experience and can let me know if by any means I was about to astral project?

I started off smudging myself and my room with sage then laid in my bed comfortably with my eyes closed and started my meditation regime as normal.

-I first seen shadow figures crossing over my visual path (with my eyes closed) they didn't feel negative like when having sleep paralysis though I'm not sure why I've seen them

-I had a constant moving itch that I ignored to continue on

-my body started tingling mostly finger tips

-then I had a pulling sensation throughout my body not painful or anything

-then all of sudden I seen my bedroom (my eyes were shut still) with a yellow tint and I seen little sparkly stars just around but my room was fairly clear and as I seen this I felt I was being pulled towards the visual

-I felt kind of uneasy and tripped out so I opened my eyes and stopped the procedure

-I then restarted trying again feeling the moving itch the tingling and pulling sensation I felt almost like I'm hovering but inside my body if that makes sense

-the air felt heavy and almost hard to breath or delayed breathing I gasped a few times for air but it wasnt threatening my heart was beating heavier it seemed too

-I felt as if a female entity was hovering over me and was face to face with me and I felt something on my bed moving (could have been my dog though) but I was too scared to open my eyes and see in case there was a girl in my face or in case I was having sleep paralysis again

-then everything stopped I fully awoke into full consciousness feeling fine I just had a bit of tinnitus but only after the experience not during

Sorry this is so long but I had to describe step by step my experience hoping someone else felt the same things and if there is any advice or dangers I am facing or any knowledge whatsoever I'm curious and want to learn more before attempting again.

[barbco196]

Problem: You said; "I was too scared". If you want an OBE, you have to let go of fear. That will snap you out of it in an instant.

[Arbel]

I would advice you not to do astral traveling as you never know what can happen and you could end up having another spirit going into your body. There are many spirits that are earth bound and many of them can be pure evil and can latch onto you and your life would be pure hell. I have seen much on my journey and I know a lot about these sort of things and believe me you do not what to know as I have been attacked many times by unseen forces

[xoluna]

Barbco196 :Yeah i think I'm just afraid of the unknown cause I dont know much about it and it's a new experience and new sensations I've never felt I'd have to get over but I'd definitely want to learn more about it.

Arbel: what kinds of things could happen if you don't mind me asking I'm very curious to know experiences so I can learn and not make the same mistakes if it is dangerous I won't do it but I'd love to learn about it

[Arbel]

Hi Xoluna

One thing is a psychic attack which is sent to you from another person and it is like a hand in your chest and it can give you a heck of a lot of pain. Other things you can be attacked physically by unseen occult forces and I was actually hit between my eyes and that hurt. There were three of us trying to help someone who was possessed by an evil spirit and that nearly killed us and it was the Lords Prayer that saved our life that night

Thoughts are living entities and a person can send those thoughts at you which can cause a lot you a lot of harm and you do not know it is happening. Like I said earlier if you let your spirit do astral travel so your body is empty and an earth bound spirit can get into your empty body and your spirit would not get back into your body and you would need a medium to get that spirit out of your body

There are times when you can feel pure evil and that happened to me in sleep state as I was on another level trying to help two people away from that evil.

If a person does have an OBE during sleep state then you are protected but I would never let my spirit leave my body on purpose and I did have a couple of OBEs. The main problem with working in the spiritual it is not taught what can happen otherwise no one would enter the spiritual work.

This is off the record but if the spirit world what you to do some work for them they always get you; I fought against what was happening to me for ten years but in the end they got me. I normally tell people if it feels right then accept it and if it does not feel right then discarded it; there is a lot of good in the spiritual you just have to be careful with what you do. One other thing is always put pure white light around you as protection when you work with the spiritual

Edited January 31, 2016 by Arbel

[preacherman76]

Yes xo you were really close to having a full OOB experience. No offense to Arbel, but no you are not in any danger astral projecting. You don't actually leave your body. It shouldn't be looked at as a separation, but more like an extension of your consciousness. Barbco was right though. You need to drop the fear. Its a very thought sensitive place.

[xoluna]

Alright thanks guys I'll keep all of this in mind for future references. I still think it would be a cool experience but I might need to continue practicing my meditation and master lucid dreaming and learn to control sleep paralysis (this scares me quite a bit) and I'll talk to my aunty she's a reiki master she might be able to give me some advice also.

[quiXilver]

I agree, so often in the West particularly with our massive dosages of Abrahamic Deity Structure (judgemental father figure) and Materialistic Science (life is random bits bumping together creating phenomena), we can easily tend to view our bodies as a vessel that houses or hosts our awareness, or spirit and is the cornerstone.

In my experiences, the field of my awareness/spirit is vast beyond the ability of words to describe and the body, is a wonderful, shiny speck of water and dense vibration, anchored safely within... just a speck, but a really awesome speck.

[barbco196]

I agree, so often in the West particularly with our massive dosages of Abrahamic Deity Structure (judgemental father figure) and Materialistic Science (life is random bits bumping together creating phenomena), we can easily tend to view our bodies as a vessel that houses or hosts our awareness, or spirit and is the cornerstone.

In my experiences, the field of my awareness/spirit is vast beyond the ability of words to describe and the body, is a wonderful, shiny speck of water and dense vibration, anchored safely within... just a speck, but a really awesome speck.

Perfect description!

[Mr Walker]

Hi Xoluna

One thing is a psychic attack which is sent to you from another person and it is like a hand in your chest and it can give you a heck of a lot of pain. Other things you can be attacked physically by unseen occult forces and I was actually hit between my eyes and that hurt. There were three of us trying to help someone who was possessed by an evil spirit and that nearly killed us and it was the Lords Prayer that saved our life that night

Thoughts are living entities and a person can send those thoughts at you which can cause a lot you a lot of harm and you do not know it is happening. Like I said earlier if you let your spirit do astral travel so your body is empty and an earth bound spirit can get into your empty body and your spirit would not get back into your body and you would need a medium to get that spirit out of your body

There are times when you can feel pure evil and that happened to me in sleep state as I was on another level trying to help two people away from that evil.

If a person does have an OBE during sleep state then you are protected but I would never let my spirit leave my body on purpose and I did have a couple of OBEs. The main problem with working in the spiritual it is not taught what can happen otherwise no one would enter the spiritual work.

This is off the record but if the spirit world what you to do some work for them they always get you; I fought against what was happening to me for ten years but in the end they got me. I normally tell people if it feels right then accept it and if it does not feel right then discarded it; there is a lot of good in the spiritual you just have to be careful with what you do. One other thing is always put pure white light around you as protection when you work with the spiritual

I've been projecting my consciousness since i was a child I've never had to use rituals and I'v never experienced any of the difficulties fears or problems some encounter (maybe BECAUSE i was doing it from pre school age before learning how difficult it could be) Around the age of 6/7 I made a conscious decision to always be in control of my self ware consciousness, even when dreaming/projecting, and to make it strong and powerful .

I don't believe anything can harm your mind from outside, but that belief comes from my own experiences. I have always been armoured and strong when projecting and I am protected by a powerful force. I think that is why i have never encountered evil or those with harmful intent. All my many experiences have been positive learning experiences.

I read, when young, how to develop both armour, and weapons of the mind, and did so , but, as in real life, if you re prepared you don't usually need to use them.

[Mr Walker]

I agree, so often in the West particularly with our massive dosages of Abrahamic Deity Structure (judgemental father figure) and Materialistic Science (life is random bits bumping together creating phenomena), we can easily tend to view our bodies as a vessel that houses or hosts our awareness, or spirit and is the cornerstone.

In my experiences, the field of my awareness/spirit is vast beyond the ability of words to describe and the body, is a wonderful, shiny speck of water and dense vibration, anchored safely within... just a speck, but a really awesome speck.

Well actually our physical body(brain ) is the generator of our self awre consciousness BUT that doesn't mean it is limited to, or, by that generator, any more than a radio wave is limited to the radio transmitter. We now know scientifically that thoughts are physical electro chemical impulses which can be read, stored and transmitted using technology.

That means that it is more understandable that this can happen WITHOUT technology to enhance the abilty. The abilty to read minds while conscious, is linked to the abilty to project your self aware consciousness out into the universe and link it to other self aware consciousnesses.

When young (11 or so), i was awakened to the presence of the universal consciousness by that consciousness itself, a process sometimes called enlightenment or raised consciousness. This is , an entity or device which links all consciousnesses around the universe, and which also stores and records the thoughts of all conscious beings, to allow archival access to them, by our own minds. Others sometimes know this as god, but that is just a label some use to make sense of this entity . Once connected to it you can "go" anywhere and any time linked to it and to other minds.

[xoluna]

Mr walker :

that's really cool that youve been so spiritual for so long and was able to do this at a young age. I was wondering if you could tell me more about your experiences I'm very facinated by astral projection I don't know much about it but it really intrigues me and I really wanna try again and hopefully succeed next time

Maybe if you have any advice or stories or anything

[Mr Walker]

Mr walker :

that's really cool that youve been so spiritual for so long and was able to do this at a young age. I was wondering if you could tell me more about your experiences I'm very facinated by astral projection I don't know much about it but it really intrigues me and I really wanna try again and hopefully succeed next time

Maybe if you have any advice or stories or anything

Thank you i usually get told off for talking about myself too much but this IS a thread on astral projection .

I have been a lucid dreamer since before i can remember and i have also been able to project my consciousness out of my body from before i can remember.

My earliest memories were learning how to fly in dreams and then learning how to send my eyes and awareness out from my body while i was asleep. It took some time to learn how to do this and i began as a young child by simply flying around the ceilings of our house Eventually as a pre schooler i learned to get my mind and eyes out from the house and flew around our yard. I would go and sit up on our tv aerial which was 50 feet high, and just watch the neighbourhood. By the time i was at school i was out every night exploring my block and then the town.

After another year or so's rigorous training and practice, I began flying out to neighbouring islands and eventually, after about five years, I was able to send my consciousness around the line of latitude on which i live, and observe all sorts of countries and landscapes along the way ( I could write thousands of words just describing this one trip and my preparation for it) .

I really thought i was just doing controlled lucid dreaming, although in the fifties this concept had not even been developed.But when i entered high school in th early sixties, a few incidents proved that what i was observing was actually occurring in the neighbourhood around me. For example one night i "watched" from on top of the tv aerial our neighbour come home drunk and drive his car through the end of his garage. The next day i heard that he had actually done this when i was asleep.

. By my teenage years i was out exploring the solar system and all the planets and moons asteroid belts etc.

When i discovered a "wormhole" or communications portal, just outside the solar system, that allowed me to travel right across the universe in a few seconds of real time. . In my travels on earth or across the universe i encountered many minds, past and present and could link into the to observe their actions through their eyes even though i couldn't understand their mental languages. About the age of 11 i "achieved enlightenment" Ie everything came together and i realised a higher level of consciousness and understanding about the nature of mind and the universe. I didn't actually realise this was what had happened or that it had happened to some other humans, until i was in my fifties and the internet allowed me to research the cosmic consciousness and enlightenment or raised consciousness in humans.

I am not the best person to ask for advice on how to do this because i leaned so early that I cant really remember the techniques i used But if you are interested i can give you a few tips which do work for me. These days there are hundreds of sites and blogs offering advice on how to astral travel or lucid dream or extend your consciousness.

Over the last fifty years i have not used the abilty so much, as i didnt need to, given the freedom of adult hood but i still maintain it and work on it for historical research, astral tourism, and and learning.

I have now explored most of the world including some of its past, all of the solar system and hundreds of worlds around the galaxy all without ever raising a sweat or spending a penny/cent. i have flown over the Serengeti plains through the dust raised by herds of animals, flown through the zambesi falls to wash off that dust, sat on,the flat top of the great pyramid and against one of the walls of macchu piccu and watchd sunrise and sunset from both vantage pints as sun and mist altered the colours of the landscapes. . I have sailed on a light ship, navigated a needle ship flown and fought on the backs of giant dragons, flown through the sky of a giant gas planet as an intelligent being which lived in the sky kept aloft by air currents i have worked as a miner on a heavy gravity planet in the body of a creature like a rock golem, and inhabited the minds/bodies of countless self aware beings around the galaxy.

There is a myriad of worlds with intelligent life, from those a t a stone age level up to major space faring races with large civilizations spanning huge areas of space. I have travelled in cold sleep on generation ships in fast needle ships piloted by Ais, been a repair technician on a light ship in the very centre of the galaxy where space is lit by millions of stars, and found that the most common form of travel in the galaxy is not physical space travel at all, but matter transmission, and indeed the transmission and sharing of self aware consciousness. Other aliens also visit earth and share our lives through this form of exchange and sometimes we become aware of this. .

Edited February 2, 2016 by Mr Walker

[xoluna]

Wow that sounds so amazing actually I'd love to do this !

[Mr Walker]

Wow that sounds so amazing actually I'd love to do this !

I really dont know how or why i came to do it so early but i do know that t i worked steadily and conscientiously every day/night for over a decade to hone this and other skills of the mind.

At the time no one had ever really heard of lucid dreaming or astral projection (at least in the west) let alone controlled lucid dreaming and conscious construction of dreamscapes and narratives.

I think that as a young child i was a bit scared by some of my very real dreams and just became detrmined to take control of my dreams so i could enjoy them without any fear involved. Then, because I always knew i was dreaming (having developed my own set of reality checkers) I could control and shape any thing in a dream and nothing could scare me One of my favourite dream sayings as a little kid was " This is my dream and i can do what i want. You can't hurt me."

When i was about 7 i saw "the forbidden planet" at a saturday matinee.

The physical monster created by the subconscious id of one of the characters, and powered by alien technology terrified me. i said right then that i was ALWAYS going to be in conscious control f my thoughts, even when i was dreaming, so that i would never construct such a destructive psychological archetype. My entry to astral projection and extending my conscious came via the ability to take my dream consciousness where i wanted to, for any purpose i wanted, while i was dreaming, and it was only after a long time that i found i was not JUST dreaming but actually extending my awareness out in the real time /space in the world around me.

This occurred about the same time as i encountered the cosmic consciousness, and was transitioning from primary school to high school. ( about 1961 or 2)

Edited February 2, 2016 by Mr Walker

[White Crane Feather]

I love it.

Well I too have dove in to canyons on foreign worlds, sat on the roofs of buildings in foreign cities, and stretched my mind to other entities and even plants. MW dosnt get all the fun, though it's taken considerably more effort for me. I suppose it's like a language. If somhow you can expose yourself to it when you are young you have a much greater ability to be fluent. But you can always learn a new language if you put in the time.'the sky is not the limit. There is an entire universe out there and we don't need space ships to get there.

[Mr Walker]

I love it.

Well I too have dove in to canyons on foreign worlds, sat on the roofs of buildings in foreign cities, and stretched my mind to other entities and even plants. MW dosnt get all the fun, though it's taken considerably more effort for me. I suppose it's like a language. If somhow you can expose yourself to it when you are young you have a much greater ability to be fluent. But you can always learn a new language if you put in the time.'the sky is not the limit. There is an entire universe out there and we don't need space ships to get there.

it is one of the reasons my life has been so wonder-full. I cannot imagine the dullness of an existence confined to my body and only my own senses. In a sense even if these were "only" dreams" the abilty to shape, construct, control, and manipulate every dream you find yourself in all the time knowing you are dreaming is a wonderful thing

For example in a dream last night we were walking laong a beach alongside high cliffs. We were being pursued by something like aliens. or zombies. We came to a large cave a hundred metres or so across and 30 metres or so high, in the cliff. This was a dead end and we were trapped .

First i constructed(matrialised in the right place in the dream) a giant bed with a mattress. I made a giant hand come down and put it right where we needed it to be. Then i reduced the gravity in the cave. This let us jump onto the bed and bounce 20 metres or so up into the air. There was a narrow ledge running long the back of the cave up the cliff and onto the top of the cliffs which we used to escape

One of the characters in the dream (obviously an alter ego construct of my own consciousness) asked, "Why didn't you just fly up there like we usually do?" My dream self character replied, "Because this was a lot more fun, wasn't it. ? I enjoyed plotting the trajectory and velocity needed to land right on the ledge, 30 metres up the cliff face. If we had miscalculated we could still have just flown ."

The wonder of the human mind and memory is that, 40 years later, I can remember dreams of travel around the world and the galaxy, as clearly and vividly as i can remember physical journeys around australia and the things we did like snow skiing,or surfing, in real life

Edited February 2, 2016 by Mr Walker

[Davros of Skaro]

The literature I read years ago instructed to create a shield of white light that only the vibrations of good can enter. This was a mental affirmation before an AP attempt. This was from several sources pre-Internet.

I guess nobody does that anymore?

Just for the record I believe AP is just in the mind.

[White Crane Feather]

The literature I read years ago instructed to create a shield of white light that only the vibrations of good can enter. This was a mental affirmation before an AP attempt. This was from several sources pre-Internet.

I guess nobody does that anymore?

Just for the record I believe AP is just in the mind.

Maybe. But when you are walking down the strip in wikiki ( OOB ) and the place is completely deserted except for a few police cars that drive buy occasionally, then you come to to find out the entire area had been evacuated because of the apraoching tsunami, it's hard to beleive in the coincidence.

In truth this state of conciousness has been used for many thousands of years to find where game is, find medacines, and contribute to the well being of aboriginal tribes. Its possible all those shaman got lucky too, but I doubt it. The Journey and shamanic flight is a well known and accepted reality in most cultures. Really only those that have dogmatized logical positivism have come to the conclusion that it's simply a mental excercise and quirk of the brain.

[White Crane Feather]

it is one of the reasons my life has been so wonder-full. I cannot imagine the dullness of an existence confined to my body and only my own senses. In a sense even if these were "only" dreams" the abilty to shape, construct, control, and manipulate every dream you find yourself in all the time knowing you are dreaming is a wonderful thing

For example in a dream last night we were walking laong a beach alongside high cliffs. We were being pursued by something like aliens. or zombies. We came to a large cave a hundred metres or so across and 30 metres or so high, in the cliff. This was a dead end and we were trapped .

First i constructed(matrialised in the right place in the dream) a giant bed with a mattress. I made a giant hand come down and put it right where we needed it to be. Then i reduced the gravity in the cave. This let us jump onto the bed and bounce 20 metres or so up into the air. There was a narrow ledge running long the back of the cave up the cliff and onto the top of the cliffs which we used to escape

One of the characters in the dream (obviously an alter ego construct of my own consciousness) asked, "Why didn't you just fly up there like we usually do?" My dream self character replied, "Because this was a lot more fun, wasn't it. ? I enjoyed plotting the trajectory and velocity needed to land right on the ledge, 30 metres up the cliff face. If we had miscalculated we could still have just flown ."

The wonder of the human mind and memory is that, 40 years later, I can remember dreams of travel around the world and the galaxy, as clearly and vividly as i can remember physical journeys around australia and the things we did like snow skiing,or surfing, in real life

I was once had a zombie post apocalypse dream where the zombies where in a zoo like structure for people to see. Of course there was an accident and a break out, but the large complex was locked down and a multitude of dramas unfolded. I was switching characters throught the entire dream living many of the scenerios as if they were me and real. I above been through some amazing battles. The main focus of the story was a young woman ( yes I was her) that was a security agent that was too cowerdly to face the zombies and actually feigned an ankle break thereby forcing her friends to take care of her. They all were zombified as a result of her cowardice, yet she made it to the complex's exit. At the last moment she changed. If she did not stop the zombies they would get out and restart the apocalypse. Something changed in her and she became a super warrior. She destroyed all the zombies and rescued the survivors. I was just her, I new her history, her back ground her family and her love for them. all of the characters I was them completely. It blows me away that the mind is capable of this.

Sometimes I spar with my students and grown men twice my size are completely shocked that they are like children to me. They know I'm the teacher, but boggles their mind how they are completely defenseless. They don't know that I have been in thousands and thousands of battles with everything from ninjas and zombies to demons and dragons, and to me it's as real as typing this.

Sometimes when I go into the wilderness for solo Hikes, I create earth or rock golems for epic battles in the woods. My practice for the day. Good talking to you MW. It's nice knowing I'm not the only one, and you have been an inspiration for me over the years.

[Mr Walker]

The literature I read years ago instructed to create a shield of white light that only the vibrations of good can enter. This was a mental affirmation before an AP attempt. This was from several sources pre-Internet.

I guess nobody does that anymore?

Just for the record I believe AP is just in the mind.

That is a fair belief We can only know it is NOT all in the mind by scientific evidences that do sometimes become available and eve they can be questioned.

When i was a liitle kid i simply made myself incapable of being harmed, through being consciously aware of what i was experiencing and knowing it couldn't hurt me.

LAter i used energy shields swords of energy In one classic long term dream, as i was working through a means to eliminate a subconscious fear of approaching adolescence, i used an automatic shotgun to blow a away the wolf lying in ambush and which had been attacking me every night

I knew this wolf represented in symbolic form, the fears of high school and adolescence THus, not only did i conquer my dream fears but I also eliminated any fear or concern in real life about high school and adolescence. i had learned that fear is an inner construct and can be de constructed and eliminated in real life.

I later read a very interesting short story A space captain found his ship under attack by aliens with psychic powers, leaving it defenceless using real weapons He remembered, as a child, his father explaining to him how, when he was scared in his dreams he should imagine himself manifesting and then using a 45 magnum revolver, the most powerful hand gun available, and capable of stopping any thing .

The captain then constructed such a weapon in his mind, using the skills he had learned as a child and successfully defended his ship from the alien mental attack.