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Posted 06 December 2012 - 12:48 AM

View Postpsyche101, on 06 December 2012 - 12:35 AM, said:

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 12:50 AM

View PostLRW, on 05 December 2012 - 10:54 PM, said:

You can not restrict the discussion of aliens to being only one form, for to do so lacks variety and vibrancy to the debate. Everybody can have a theory on extraterrestrial life, as long as it can be considered from the perspective of outside the earth, that perspective can also blend philosophy and spirituality into the mix for an interesting and tasteful recipe.  

If you only want spaceships, klingons, laser weapons, go watch star trek. Of course you can talk about them here too, but thats only one form of alien out of many possibilities and theories. That form should not hold the monopoly of the debate.
  


Planets are not aliens, that is philosophical, and not Extraterrestrial life. Is that not what you propose? Are you proposing that aliens did it? You seem to be insisting on remaining enigmatic in your specifics, and I think I know why.

Yes, I do expect to see spaceships discussed in a forum titled The UFO Phenomena. Why wouldn't I?

What do you think the point of the sections are?

Things are what they are. - Me Reality can't be debunked. That's the beauty of it. - Capeo 'If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.' - Sir Isaac Newton. "Let me repeat the lesson learned from the Sturrock scientific review panel: Pack up your old data and forget it. Ufology needs new data, new cases, new rigorous and scientific methodologies if it hopes ever to get out of its pit." Ed Stewart. Youtube is the last refuge of the ignorant and is more often used for disinformation than genuine research.  There is a REASON for PEER REVIEW... - Chrlzs. Nothing is inexplicable, just unexplained. - Sir Wearer of Hats.


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Posted 06 December 2012 - 12:56 AM

View PostLRW, on 05 December 2012 - 11:55 PM, said:

POP music is mainstream, it does not mean its the best music for everybody or their cup of tea. Egyptology may be mainstream and more catered for in the most well funded scientific and academic communities, but that does not necessarily mean they are correct in their thesis. Especially when they have not proven their theory outright, it just makes more people want to listen to something not of the mainstream.


Is Pop incorrect?

Does it not being someones cup of tea make it invalid?

Sure, it does not prove they have it 100% correct. You have every opportunity to correct any discrepancy you can see, you can also submit that for peer review. That is the missing part here. Egyptologists show you everything they learn, and how they come to those conclusions. Fringe people make up crap and say "believe me, after all it makes sense to you does it not?"
And that appeal to ones ego tends to work for some. People like to think they are smart, and some get a buzz from thinking they have outdone an academic. It's only a personal view though.

I agree that there is room for everyone, I just expect everyone to ante up and bin the faith BS. It has no place in science.

What we have is the best explanation to date based upon evidences procured from the site. We also have some people challenging that. It comes down to who can show you what they have.

Things are what they are. - Me Reality can't be debunked. That's the beauty of it. - Capeo 'If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.' - Sir Isaac Newton. "Let me repeat the lesson learned from the Sturrock scientific review panel: Pack up your old data and forget it. Ufology needs new data, new cases, new rigorous and scientific methodologies if it hopes ever to get out of its pit." Ed Stewart. Youtube is the last refuge of the ignorant and is more often used for disinformation than genuine research.  There is a REASON for PEER REVIEW... - Chrlzs. Nothing is inexplicable, just unexplained. - Sir Wearer of Hats.


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Posted 06 December 2012 - 12:56 AM

View Postpsyche101, on 06 December 2012 - 12:32 AM, said:

They have the resources and knowledge that is specialist to their field. In that they are "experts" despite the claim made:



LRW, on 06 December 2012 - 03:18 AM, said:

They are not experts. They are not sages.

Do you disagree with that?



Yes, sometimes people study very hard on a personal level and their hard work comes to fruition. Then all you have to do is qualify that claim. Not one has been put forth that is more likely than the accepted conclusions (which is how it becomes accepted, the "experts" put their heads together, and yes, from time to time they go "Why didn't we think of that!) Proof is required, not assurances. "Experts" offer how and why they came to the solutions they do. Fringe elements make up crap and expect people to believe it. Massive difference.





Yes, I agree, and that is why we now have a system called "Peer Review". Claims can be tested and qualified. If they pass, they become accepted. There is nothing wrong with this model, it is fair and just. That is all that is required. Real evidence.




I Look forward to it, if not with one squinted eye.
YOUR EYES WILL BE WIDE OPEN BELIEVE ME.. BUT I AM NOT ASKING FOR PEOPLE WHO STATE THE OBVIOUS
TO COMMENT.... THE AMOUNT OF LIKES I WILL GET WILL SAY IT ALL.. YOU'LL SEE..

EVERYTHING I WRITE ARE MY OWN BELIEFS & I DO NOT USE OTHER PEOPLES WRITINGS TO GET THE MESSAGE ACROSS... IT'S EASY TO 'COPY & PASTE'  ;)


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Posted 06 December 2012 - 12:59 AM

View PostLRW, on 05 December 2012 - 11:59 PM, said:

Thats coming from someone who attempts to compare the "Great Pyramid" with bigfoot suits. LOL

I never did any such thing. Good God, are you not supposed to understand philosophies? LOL.

I said that the tactic used by the people who support the notion of an impossible manufacture, are applying the same flawed argument on this subject.

But looking at your posts, I surely can see how you came to the understanding that you did ;)

Things are what they are. - Me Reality can't be debunked. That's the beauty of it. - Capeo 'If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.' - Sir Isaac Newton. "Let me repeat the lesson learned from the Sturrock scientific review panel: Pack up your old data and forget it. Ufology needs new data, new cases, new rigorous and scientific methodologies if it hopes ever to get out of its pit." Ed Stewart. Youtube is the last refuge of the ignorant and is more often used for disinformation than genuine research.  There is a REASON for PEER REVIEW... - Chrlzs. Nothing is inexplicable, just unexplained. - Sir Wearer of Hats.


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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:00 AM

View PostSomethings Not Right, on 06 December 2012 - 12:56 AM, said:

YOUR EYES WILL BE WIDE OPEN BELIEVE ME.. BUT I AM NOT ASKING FOR PEOPLE WHO STATE THE OBVIOUS
TO COMMENT.... THE AMOUNT OF LIKES I WILL GET WILL SAY IT ALL.. YOU'LL SEE..

EVERYTHING I WRITE ARE MY OWN BELIEFS & I DO NOT USE OTHER PEOPLES WRITINGS TO GET THE MESSAGE ACROSS... IT'S EASY TO 'COPY & PASTE'  ;)
ALSO WHY SPLIT MY POSTS UP.. IS IT BECAUSE IT LOOKS BETTER FROM YOUR END....
IF YOU REPLY TO A POST I THINK YOU SHOULD LEAVE THE PREVIOUS POST IN FULL... ;)


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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:12 AM

View PostSomethings Not Right, on 06 December 2012 - 12:14 AM, said:

Well if that's the best comeback you've got, I'll have to put a couple of pics on for you my friend...

That is awesome, but seeing as you were belittling others about having been to Egypt with Zoser, as I said, I expect to see his pictures as well.

View PostSomethings Not Right, on 06 December 2012 - 12:14 AM, said:

Sorry, what was I thinking! This is meant to be a forum about Ancient Aliens & not Alan's pictures of Egypt!

Nonetheless there is a facility to offer your own gallery in your profile. I suggest you take advantage of it and put up your pictures. I for one would love to see them never admittedly having been to that part of the world.

Did you get to see anything more than the tourist circuit though? The people who have provided the information presented I feel have crawled through places and looked through cameras, nooks and crannies that you might know existed even if standing right on top of them. I am not sure that having walked the route makes anyone more of an "expert" However, I do understand construction intimately. I feel that is more valuable in this conversation to be perfectly honest.

View PostSomethings Not Right, on 06 December 2012 - 12:14 AM, said:

If you want pictures of Egypt you'll have to look on google images.. There's some really nice ones on there ;)

Not detailing what we are discussing, the Egyptologist websites seem more focused upon the subject in hand.

View PostSomethings Not Right, on 06 December 2012 - 12:14 AM, said:

And you're welcome to come to England for a beer but I make my own jerky & you'll have to bring a couple of chicks
with you.. I also make some tasty black pudding scotch eggs but that'd be for the cookery forum.....
He He ;)

I would dearly love to, but my next OS trip will be NZ, then hopefully Texas to visit some of the people I have come to know, love and respect on these boards.

Emma can have the middle one :blush: But she is UK, so good chance I will get there if given an ounce of motivation. Emma rawks.

I took offence to you claiming that people who understand mainstream science to be armchair boffins that never step outside. Mate that is anything but the case with me, in fact it sounds like we have a little in common.

And I love a decent home made jerky. Best you can get. I need to put Pax and WOH here into the little old Russian Lady at Nerang markets who makes a brilliant jerky. Hope you do not mind stout if I ever do get there ;)

Chicks, hrmmmzzz, I am sure I can talk a couple of Aussie lasses into visiting the old country ;) Never tried black pudding, but for sure I am up to it. I'll give it a go.

Edited by psyche101, 06 December 2012 - 01:39 AM.

Things are what they are. - Me Reality can't be debunked. That's the beauty of it. - Capeo 'If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.' - Sir Isaac Newton. "Let me repeat the lesson learned from the Sturrock scientific review panel: Pack up your old data and forget it. Ufology needs new data, new cases, new rigorous and scientific methodologies if it hopes ever to get out of its pit." Ed Stewart. Youtube is the last refuge of the ignorant and is more often used for disinformation than genuine research.  There is a REASON for PEER REVIEW... - Chrlzs. Nothing is inexplicable, just unexplained. - Sir Wearer of Hats.


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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:33 AM

View PostSomethings Not Right, on 06 December 2012 - 12:45 AM, said:

Someone tell me where the mummies were recovered in the great pyramid... I always was lead to believe there were no mummies found in the GP...
When CHRIS DUNN was talking about 'The GREAT PYRAMID' being a 'HUGE RESONATOR' on 'ANCIENT ALIENS' he also said that the 'MAIN GALLERY' was fitted with a series of 'HUGE WHEELS'  with pulleys.....

Again, there were no bodies, however, a broken coffin and evidence of looting in the empty room tells a powerful tale. As does the fascination with using mummies as a remedy. I shudder to think how much of the fossil record overall has been ingested in such misguided efforts. That bit is not rocket science mate.

View PostSomethings Not Right, on 06 December 2012 - 12:45 AM, said:

You see I'm also a builder It's fact that every pulley halves the weight of the object being lifted.. So a series of dozen's of pulleys
would make it easy for a much smaller team of 'lifters' needed you see........

Where are they though? What Dunn sees is what he believes is evidence of a pulley system is it not?

And yes, you make good sense, if a pulley system was used, it would be very helpful, and I do not for a second say it is impossible that it was contrived, used, and forgotten either, but it does not negate the current system of ramps and so forth, it's an additional tool if it can be proven, and yes I hope such would be found as it would be a remarkable aspect of our historical record to find pulley were used for a project long before someone else came up with the same ideal and sent it to mainstream.
But the evidence is more than slim from what I understand.

If you are pushing for a pulley system all that need be presented is some solid evidence. I have no trouble with that. I do not think the Baghdad battery is the work of aliens, but had charged flow centuries before it was mainstream. Most likely used for plating, it seems many suposed solid gold statues might not be solid gold after all. People are smart, ancient man was smart, and innovative, and thank goodness as it has culminated in ducted air conditioning and plasma tellies. Life is good, and we have ourselves to than for that.

View PostSomethings Not Right, on 06 December 2012 - 12:45 AM, said:

And anyway, don't just hang on to what you believe is a flaw in the man, he speaks complete sense & no one points
out what these genius's are teaching us to be really good evidence, just what they can mock...

The Power plant claim is hard to overlook and or qualify. It's quite a speed-bump in his credibility.

View PostSomethings Not Right, on 06 December 2012 - 12:45 AM, said:

Chris Dunn is a very very smart man indeed so don't be so quick to mock him as he's 'The Man Of The Moment &
until any of you sceptics come up with a better idea I suggest you follow him more closely...

No skeptics have come up with anything, we have relied on experts in the field who have been able to prove themselves better than Dunn has, that is all. And then those experts have been quoted, none of this is sceptic talk, not skeptic derived, it is merely a healthy respect for the tried and true method of peer review.

View PostSomethings Not Right, on 06 December 2012 - 12:45 AM, said:

PUT  THAT  IN YOUR  PIPE  &  SMOKE  IT!!!   ;)

I have a feeling that few people here are already doing exactly that ;)

Things are what they are. - Me Reality can't be debunked. That's the beauty of it. - Capeo 'If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.' - Sir Isaac Newton. "Let me repeat the lesson learned from the Sturrock scientific review panel: Pack up your old data and forget it. Ufology needs new data, new cases, new rigorous and scientific methodologies if it hopes ever to get out of its pit." Ed Stewart. Youtube is the last refuge of the ignorant and is more often used for disinformation than genuine research.  There is a REASON for PEER REVIEW... - Chrlzs. Nothing is inexplicable, just unexplained. - Sir Wearer of Hats.


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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:37 AM

View PostSomethings Not Right, on 06 December 2012 - 12:56 AM, said:

YOUR EYES WILL BE WIDE OPEN BELIEVE ME.. BUT I AM NOT ASKING FOR PEOPLE WHO STATE THE OBVIOUS
TO COMMENT.... THE AMOUNT OF LIKES I WILL GET WILL SAY IT ALL.. YOU'LL SEE..

EVERYTHING I WRITE ARE MY OWN BELIEFS & I DO NOT USE OTHER PEOPLES WRITINGS TO GET THE MESSAGE ACROSS... IT'S EASY TO 'COPY & PASTE'  ;)


Yes it is easy to copy and paste, not so easy to understand what you copy and paste. And that can indeed have hilarious connotations. Stand by and watch...... ;)


Your own beliefs are just fine, and I wont challenge them, I might ask some questions, but I do feel that everyone is entitled to their own beliefs, it's just that everyone is not entitled to their own facts.

I look forward to your proposal.

Edited by psyche101, 06 December 2012 - 01:40 AM.

Things are what they are. - Me Reality can't be debunked. That's the beauty of it. - Capeo 'If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.' - Sir Isaac Newton. "Let me repeat the lesson learned from the Sturrock scientific review panel: Pack up your old data and forget it. Ufology needs new data, new cases, new rigorous and scientific methodologies if it hopes ever to get out of its pit." Ed Stewart. Youtube is the last refuge of the ignorant and is more often used for disinformation than genuine research.  There is a REASON for PEER REVIEW... - Chrlzs. Nothing is inexplicable, just unexplained. - Sir Wearer of Hats.


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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:02 AM

View Postpsyche101, on 06 December 2012 - 01:12 AM, said:

That is awesome, but seeing as you were belittling others about having been to Egypt with Zoser, as I said, I expect to see his pictures as well.



Nonetheless there is a facility to offer your own gallery in your profile. I suggest you take advantage of it and put up your pictures. I for one would love to see them never admittedly having been to that part of the world.

Did you get to see anything more than the tourist circuit though? The people who have provided the information presented I feel have crawled through places and looked through cameras, nooks and crannies that you might know existed even if standing right on top of them. I am not sure that having walked the route makes anyone more of an "expert" However, I do understand construction intimately. I feel that is more valuable in this conversation to be perfectly honest.



Not detailing what we are discussing, the Egyptologist websites seem more focused upon the subject in hand.



I would dearly love to, but my next OS trip will be NZ, then hopefully Texas to visit some of the people I have come to know, love and respect on these boards.

Emma can have the middle one :blush: But she is UK, so good chance I will get there if given an ounce of motivation. Emma rawks.

I took offence to you claiming that people who understand mainstream science to be armchair boffins that never step outside. Mate that is anything but the case with me, in fact it sounds like we have a little in common.

And I love a decent home made jerky. Best you can get. I need to put Pax and WOH here into the little old Russin Lady at Nerang markets who makes a brilliant jerky. Hope you do not mind stout if I ever do get there ;)

Chicks, hrmmmzzz, I am sure I can talk a couple of Aussie lasses into visiting the old country ;) Never tried black pudding, but for sure I am up to it. I'll give it a go.
No mate, never been to Egypt but I would love to go.... You called My bluff :)
No offence meant matey I was just stating that Chris Dunn HAS been there & I'm sure he is more of an authority than anyone
on here & every sceptic seems to ridicule him. If you watch his work closely I think you may be supprised to the possibility
that he is indeed a very clever man.
No Egyptologist who have spent their whole life on a subject is ever going to accept his THEORIES(yes they are all theories)

I myself am open to every angle (If you look back at one of my posts you'll see)
But sceptics never say 'well you know what, he's on to something here'
They will never open up to good evidence. They only ever take what scholars say as gosple because
'They are so called experts'.... & they don't know themselves..

Surely if you saw someone doing a task at work & it was more efficient than the way you have been doing it for years
you wouldn't say 'he hasn't a clue'.. No you would take it in and do it yourself.

Why is this any different. It's not is it? So maybe you should open up to the idea that there could be other options..

I'm not saying it was Aliens but........... wait for it................................
It was Aliens ;)
Sorry' had to do it!                                 ;)                     ;)


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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:06 AM

View PostSomethings Not Right, on 06 December 2012 - 01:00 AM, said:

ALSO WHY SPLIT MY POSTS UP.. IS IT BECAUSE IT LOOKS BETTER FROM YOUR END....
IF YOU REPLY TO A POST I THINK YOU SHOULD LEAVE THE PREVIOUS POST IN FULL... ;)
If you are concerned about the appearance of your posts, it's important that you realizes that....
TYPING IN BLOCK CAPITALS IS INTERPRETED AS SHOUTING!

Please use lower case :yes:

Also when replying to a post which has a lot of pictures or video links, delete those and replace with something like;
*snipped to save space*
It works wonders to speed up page loading and scrolling :tu:

Edited by synchronomy, 06 December 2012 - 02:09 AM.

At the heart of science is an essential balance between two seemingly contradictory attitudes--an openness to new ideas, no matter how bizarre or counterintuitive they may be, and the most ruthless skeptical scrutiny of all ideas, old and new.
This is how deep truths are winnowed from deep nonsense. -- Carl Sagan

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:22 AM

I can see you are a very knowledgeble man & I am sure that you do your homework but to say there is no evidence
is a no brainer... If you were about to do a job & you did not have any tools would you not rip out the tools needed
from a former project rather than take the time & effort needed to construct your own new tools...
Nope..... I'm sure like me, you'd use what was available & I think there is good evidence across the ancient world
of this practice happening again & again.......
Like when the Arabs who turned up a long time later ripped the face off the great pyramid to build their new homes
did they not... Now that's something ALL Egyptologists agree on.........
Do you like them apples......  ;)       ;)


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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:25 AM

View Postsynchronomy, on 06 December 2012 - 02:06 AM, said:

If you are concerned about the appearance of your posts, it's important that you realizes that....
TYPING IN BLOCK CAPITALS IS INTERPRETED AS SHOUTING!

Please use lower case :yes:

Also when replying to a post which has a lot of pictures or video links, delete those and replace with something like;
*snipped to save space*
It works wonders to speed up page loading and scrolling :tu:
Thanks for your advice pal, I did not realise I was shouting..
I am not here to offend anyone at all.... Thumbs up to you too.. how d'you do that?


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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:27 AM

View PostSomethings Not Right, on 06 December 2012 - 02:02 AM, said:

No mate, never been to Egypt but I would love to go.... You called My bluff :)

:rofl: Me too. :tu:

I admit, you had me hook, line and sinker.

View PostSomethings Not Right, on 06 December 2012 - 02:02 AM, said:

No offence meant matey I was just stating that Chris Dunn HAS been there & I'm sure he is more of an authority than anyone
on here & every sceptic seems to ridicule him. If you watch his work closely I think you may be supprised to the possibility
that he is indeed a very clever man.

No problems, thank you, and now it's water of a ducks back.

His claims simply need to be qualified. His expertise will show in that, that is all that is required. To date his claims appear to be on rather shaky ground by comparison with mainstream models.

View PostSomethings Not Right, on 06 December 2012 - 02:02 AM, said:

No Egyptologist who have spent their whole life on a subject is ever going to accept his THEORIES(yes they are all theories)

Again, I beg to differ. It matters not what credentialed people say, if they have solid proof they have no recourse but to accept it. Science likes nothing more than a total surprise. That does not mean the end of decades of work, it means that some things have to be re-thought. What Dunns claims would mean is that many people will have a lot to do for a long time, and some questions might get some very solid answers. And that's a good ting where science is concerned. Science is not the be all end all, and does not claim to be, it claims to be the most accurate path we know of with todays knowledge, and has been altered many times, notably the rise of man going form a relay to a malay. Or perhaps the Flores Hominid debate. Science has no problem saying "Ohh right, I see how that goes, we were wrong" it is the basis of science as we know it today. Science is fluid.
But so many fringe people use this hole to make a quick buck that scepticism is strong.

Even from Wikipedia:


Quote

In modern use, "science" more often refers to a way of pursuing knowledge, not only the knowledge itself.

View PostSomethings Not Right, on 06 December 2012 - 02:02 AM, said:

I myself am open to every angle (If you look back at one of my posts you'll see)
But sceptics never say 'well you know what, he's on to something here'
They will never open up to good evidence. They only ever take what scholars say as gosple because
'They are so called experts'.... & they don't know themselves..

But the experts have the best tools, knowledge and resources to come to those conclusions, Yes it will be an uphill battle to challenge that, but not insurmountable. All one needs is solid proof - empirical evidence, and if on the level that really ought to be obtainable the the claims would not exist to begin with, unless of course, a musing and not based upon anything more than imagination.

Yes skeptics will open up, but for good sound results, not faith. If they were not to do so, that would be quite hypocritical would it not?

View PostSomethings Not Right, on 06 December 2012 - 02:02 AM, said:

Surely if you saw someone doing a task at work & it was more efficient than the way you have been doing it for years
you wouldn't say 'he hasn't a clue'.. No you would take it in and do it yourself.

Why is this any different. It's not is it? So maybe you should open up to the idea that there could be other options..

Yes I would but again, that chain of command exists for a reason, so that people with valid claims can indeed qualify them. If one attempt to skirt this process that is a giant red flag.

View PostSomethings Not Right, on 06 December 2012 - 02:02 AM, said:

I'm not saying it was Aliens but........... wait for it................................
It was Aliens ;)
Sorry' had to do it! ;) ;)


:w00t: :lol: :tu:

Everyone seems to have had enough of Giorgio, maybe something new.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:28 AM

View PostSomethings Not Right, on 06 December 2012 - 02:22 AM, said:

I can see you are a very knowledgeble man & I am sure that you do your homework but to say there is no evidence
is a no brainer... If you were about to do a job & you did not have any tools would you not rip out the tools needed
from a former project rather than take the time & effort needed to construct your own new tools...
Nope..... I'm sure like me, you'd use what was available & I think there is good evidence across the ancient world
of this practice happening again & again.......
Like when the Arabs who turned up a long time later ripped the face off the great pyramid to build their new homes
did they not... Now that's something ALL Egyptologists agree on.........
Do you like them apples......  ;)    ;)
I like to add a bit of humer & it doesn't always come across that way...
So when I make a daft comment at the end of a good point, maybe I shouldn't ... sorry about that..
Just having a laugh that's all.....         :)