Jump to content




Welcome to Unexplained Mysteries! Please sign in or create an account to start posting and to access a host of extra features.


- - - - -

Yahweh / El - God of The Bible is Satan

yahweh moloch el god bible

  • Please log in to reply
54 replies to this topic

#31    Ciss

Ciss

    Extraterrestrial Entity

  • Member
  • PipPipPip
  • 437 posts
  • Joined:27 Mar 2008
  • Gender:Not Selected

Posted 29 January 2013 - 05:07 AM

 Etu Malku, on 29 January 2013 - 03:21 AM, said:

Leviathan is one of the Crown Princes of Hell and of the Element Water, which is the Cardinal Point of West, metaphoric of life & creation, represented by the Chalice (Cups of the Tarot).

wow, okay! you lost me, haven't got a clue about "cups of the tarot" or any crowned princes of hell or heaven for that matter, lol! I don't lean left any more than I lean right, just sort of fill that middle gap in the battle field between the two...

The reason I was curious about the "west" and the meaning it held is because the peeps in the bible used the cardinal point of east to navigate and orient themselves, the same as we use the north now, but they also used the east as describing "a set point in time" the east represented the past which is always in front of you and the future which is in the back of you is west, thus they thought in terms of traveling through time backwards, you can know and see the past (east) therefore it was in front of you. So going with their reasoning, projecting Leviathan into the west is like "don't look back now! but there is one HELL of a motivation coming up on this ride!"


#32    SpiritWriter

SpiritWriter

  • Member
  • 3,512 posts
  • Joined:21 Jun 2012
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:on the ground

  • The greatest story ever told is Your story.

Posted 31 January 2013 - 12:31 AM

 Etu Malku, on 27 January 2013 - 03:09 AM, said:

The Gnostics believed that the god of this universe was an evil god, the Demiurge and that there existed a 'good' god.

The concept of the Devil was a fairly late development in the monothiestic legacy. The early Hebrews attributed all events, whether good or bad, to the One God. He encapsulated both Darkness and Light, destruction and creation, corruption and purity.

Such is clearly stated in Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

In the Old Testament it is God Himself who slays the first born of Egypt, sends plagues and famine, strikes down with lightning, and demands of Abraham that he sacrifice his first born son. The idea of a separate evil only gradually arrives from the 2nd century B.C.

The myth of the Fall originates in The Book of Enoch, and is outside of the Canon. Yet by the time the New Testament was compiled the influence of Enoch had been absorbed, along with elements of the Persian Zoroastrian religion, Judea being under Persian rule from the 6th to 4th centuries B.C.

In their cosmology there are two principles of Ahura Mazda, being creative, and Ahriman, being destructive. So evenly matched are they that the slightest flux can topple the balance, and mortal-kind are constantly being drawn to one side or the other. Originally the Devil was the shadow side of God, His dark aspect.

Mal’ak was the term employed for that aspect of God that was able to communicate with mortal kind. It was this concept that was translated into the concept of the angel. Only the shadow was able to communicate because the Light is too great for a human to bear, as with Zeus. As the Hebrew religion evolved, so did this "shadow", until it broke away from God and became a separate power having its own free Will.

However, with this separation came the natural dualistic attribution of God‟s other characteristics, so that the Shadow also becomes His destructive and malign aspect, whilst the Light becomes everything good. In the Book of Jubilee, compiled approximately a hundred years after the Old Testament, this shadow has acquired the title of Mastema, a Hebrew word meaning 'adversity". From this moment it is this Accusing Angel that becomes responsible for all the darker things previously imputed to God. It was the Mastema who hardened the Pharoah‟s heart and assisted the Egyptian sorcerers against Israel.

The concept of the Evil One is essential in any religion that preaches redemption, for there must be something to be overcome. Later Christianity adopted the legend of the Fall, a theme most popular throughout the Middle East. The following Canaanite scripture was recorded five centuries before the Hebrew scribes produced the Old Testament, and concerns the legend of Shaher, who was born of "the Pit", Helel, which is the womb of the Mother Goddess.
“How hast thou fallen from heaven, Helel‟s son Shaher! Thou didst say in thy heart, I will ascend to Heaven. Above the circumpolar stars I will raise my throne and I will dwell on the Mount of Council in the back of the north. I will mount the back of a cloud. I will be like unto Elyon.”

Compare with Isaiah 14:12-14 as we know it now;
“How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!
How you are cut down to the ground, You who weakened the nations!
For you have said in your heart: „I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
I will also sit on the mount of the congregation On the farthest sides of the north; I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High.”


This is some good stuff right here... I agree with a lot of your theology.. i also believe through christ we are ushered into the light, the goodness of god which is seperate from the evil, which you have identified in your post.


Dueteronomy 30:19
This day I call heaven and earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live

The letter kills but The Spirit gives life. 2 Corinthians 3:6

Non-ambiguity and non-contradiction are one sided and thus unsuited to express the incomprehensible. -Jung

#33    Etu Malku

Etu Malku

    Paranormal Investigator

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 817 posts
  • Joined:03 Aug 2012
  • Gender:Male

  • Mercuræn

Posted 31 January 2013 - 01:00 AM

 SpiritWriter, on 31 January 2013 - 12:31 AM, said:

This is some good stuff right here... I agree with a lot of your theology.. i also believe through christ we are ushered into the light, the goodness of god which is seperate from the evil, which you have identified in your post.


Dueteronomy 30:19
This day I call heaven and earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live
Pretty good for a Luciferian, huh? :devil:

Tarkhem Productions
   IAMTHATIAMNOT

#34    Etu Malku

Etu Malku

    Paranormal Investigator

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 817 posts
  • Joined:03 Aug 2012
  • Gender:Male

  • Mercuræn

Posted 31 January 2013 - 01:04 AM

 Ciss, on 29 January 2013 - 05:07 AM, said:

wow, okay! you lost me, haven't got a clue about "cups of the tarot"
The Tarot is a form of divination using cards, the Tarot deck. The suit of Cups is associated to the Element of Water.

Quote

I don't lean left any more than I lean right, just sort of fill that middle gap in the battle field between the two...
Actually, that would be the Middle Pillar Path and something you, I am certain, have no inkling about!

Quote

or any crowned princes of hell or heaven for that matter, lol!
The four Crown Princes of Hell are: North-Belial-Earth    West-Leviathan-Water    South-Satan-Fire    East-Lucifer-Air

Tarkhem Productions
   IAMTHATIAMNOT

#35    White Unicorn

White Unicorn

    Astral Projection

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 730 posts
  • Joined:19 Oct 2011
  • Gender:Not Selected

Posted 31 January 2013 - 04:30 AM

 Etu Malku, on 31 January 2013 - 01:00 AM, said:

Pretty good for a Luciferian, huh? :devil:

I heard some old Jewish commentary about the Adversary and that even he worked God's will because he is more or less like a cop that tries to set up the criminals, he actually tempts to reveal the wicked for judgement but also makes the Righteous who fight him stronger in the end.


#36    Etu Malku

Etu Malku

    Paranormal Investigator

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 817 posts
  • Joined:03 Aug 2012
  • Gender:Male

  • Mercuræn

Posted 31 January 2013 - 01:55 PM

 White Unicorn, on 31 January 2013 - 04:30 AM, said:

I heard some old Jewish commentary about the Adversary and that even he worked God's will because he is more or less like a cop that tries to set up the criminals, he actually tempts to reveal the wicked for judgement but also makes the Righteous who fight him stronger in the end.
Yes! In the Book of Job, Satan is the prosecutor in God's court, under the Will of God.
As "Accuser", Satan is how you described, and as "Adversary" (ha-Satan) He becomes the opponent of God.

Tarkhem Productions
   IAMTHATIAMNOT

#37    Mystic Crusader

Mystic Crusader

    Psychic Spy

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,057 posts
  • Joined:22 Apr 2008
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Arizona

  • "What would you rather be, a bus driver, or a super terrorist?"

Posted 31 January 2013 - 04:42 PM

 SpiritWriter, on 31 January 2013 - 12:31 AM, said:

Dueteronomy 30:19
This day I call heaven and earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live

Sounds like blackmail to me.

Drunk with blood..
Dangerous cult leaders
Jewish gematria # 1162:
Who is like God
The epitome of evil

#38    SpiritWriter

SpiritWriter

  • Member
  • 3,512 posts
  • Joined:21 Jun 2012
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:on the ground

  • The greatest story ever told is Your story.

Posted 31 January 2013 - 04:49 PM

 HavocWing, on 31 January 2013 - 04:42 PM, said:



Sounds like blackmail to me.


You can choose life and be blessed or death and be cursed. It also sounds like a great offer with wisdom behind it.

The letter kills but The Spirit gives life. 2 Corinthians 3:6

Non-ambiguity and non-contradiction are one sided and thus unsuited to express the incomprehensible. -Jung

#39    Mystic Crusader

Mystic Crusader

    Psychic Spy

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,057 posts
  • Joined:22 Apr 2008
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Arizona

  • "What would you rather be, a bus driver, or a super terrorist?"

Posted 31 January 2013 - 04:56 PM

 SpiritWriter, on 31 January 2013 - 04:49 PM, said:

You can choose life and be blessed or death and be cursed. It also sounds like a great offer with wisdom behind it.

It's blackmail.

Definition of BLACKMAIL


1
: a tribute anciently exacted on the Scottish border by plundering chiefs in exchange for immunity from pillage
2
a : extortion or coercion by threats especially of public exposure or criminal prosecution
b : the payment that is extorted

Drunk with blood..
Dangerous cult leaders
Jewish gematria # 1162:
Who is like God
The epitome of evil

#40    Frank Merton

Frank Merton

    Blue fish

  • Member
  • 13,993 posts
  • Joined:22 Jan 2013
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam

  • fmerton.blogspot.com

Posted 31 January 2013 - 05:03 PM

My understanding of Satan is that he came from Shatan, an angel appointed by God to serve as a counterpoint to all the glory singing going on that I suppose would become tiresome even to God.  (In Job he was therefore just doing his job).

The Zoroastrians (the religion of the Persians who conquered the Babylonians and subsequently let the Jews return to Judea) had a dualistic religion of two deities, one good and one evil, at eternal war with each other.  One presumes the Jews picked up elements of this idea and identified the evil deity with the old Shatan and maybe even with the serpent in Eden (although that identification may have come later).  Of course by now being monotheists they couldn't make Satan God's equal, so we have the beginnings of the story as it has since evolved.


#41    Etu Malku

Etu Malku

    Paranormal Investigator

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 817 posts
  • Joined:03 Aug 2012
  • Gender:Male

  • Mercuræn

Posted 31 January 2013 - 07:54 PM

Satan is a personification of the Judaic word al-satan or ha-satan (who borrowed it from the Persians' Shaiten) meaning Adversary.

Shaiten did not become Satan until much later where Jewish sects / tribes particularly the Essenes who began referring to anyone not an Essene as the Shaiten.

Still further on the Roman Christian church decided it was time to personify Shaiten into Satan and have Him become the scapegoat for all evil in the Christian world. (they added the cool horns, trident tail, and hoofs)

The Adversary is a trans-cultural archetype which existed long before Christianity began in the form of Samael, Ahriman and the feminine aspect being Lilith.

Tarkhem Productions
   IAMTHATIAMNOT

#42    rimbaudelaire

rimbaudelaire

    Alien Embryo

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 110 posts
  • Joined:30 Apr 2012
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:City of Brotherly Love

Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:56 PM

 Arpee, on 26 January 2013 - 10:21 PM, said:

My intentions was to deliver information that some may not know. Information that is not really talked about.

For those who think I'm making stuff up trying to connect the letter "A" to the bull/ox and God (AL/EL). Check this out:

Posted Image
What you're delivering is pure misinformation. It's evident you know nothing about the basis of the Bible (the Torah) or the cultural aspects involved.


#43    Lion of Judah

Lion of Judah

    Extraterrestrial Entity

  • Member
  • PipPipPip
  • 458 posts
  • Joined:08 Feb 2006
  • Location:Arcadia

Posted 31 January 2013 - 10:45 PM

There are so many names of God people are confused to his real name but have you seen God he never shows his face throughout the bible but I've seen him when I was praying he looks like Zeus who was king of the Gods thats why there ain't a statue of Zeus In Greece maybe he had it removed and I have my own theories I think God wanted youth so he was born into this world through the Titans so he could know man and make the first children on Earth.
There must of been a war in the Heavens where God lost the world to sin and fallen Angels of whom we get Satan demonic forces are trying to corrupt us and turn us away from God but those of us who keep his commandments and believe in him will have everlasting life.
Yaweh Jehova Elohim were just Jewish names of God caananites were just occupying Gods home for Jews and their idols baal were fallen angels decendents Mount Zion is where God returns because that is the centre of Earth from the Heavens.


Posted Image
I'm a lover fighter wonderer and champion of darkness


#44    Etu Malku

Etu Malku

    Paranormal Investigator

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 817 posts
  • Joined:03 Aug 2012
  • Gender:Male

  • Mercuræn

Posted 01 February 2013 - 12:34 AM

 Lion of Judah, on 31 January 2013 - 10:45 PM, said:

There are so many names of God people are confused to his real name but have you seen God he never shows his face throughout the bible but I've seen him when I was praying he looks like Zeus who was king of the Gods thats why there ain't a statue of Zeus In Greece maybe he had it removed and I have my own theories I think God wanted youth so he was born into this world through the Titans so he could know man and make the first children on Earth.
There must of been a war in the Heavens where God lost the world to sin and fallen Angels of whom we get Satan demonic forces are trying to corrupt us and turn us away from God but those of us who keep his commandments and believe in him will have everlasting life.
Yaweh Jehova Elohim were just Jewish names of God caananites were just occupying Gods home for Jews and their idols baal were fallen angels decendents Mount Zion is where God returns because that is the centre of Earth from the Heavens.
I bet you're down with Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy as well? :innocent:  :santa:  :alien:

Tarkhem Productions
   IAMTHATIAMNOT

#45    Detective Mystery 2014

Detective Mystery 2014

    Poltergeist

  • Member
  • 2,294 posts
  • Joined:31 Jan 2013
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:twilight zone's outer limits

  • Mysteries are tomorrow's histories.

Posted 02 February 2013 - 07:22 AM

The Ten Commandments certainly aren't satanic. They instruct us to live moral and righteous lives, and they form the basis of future laws. One would think that the devil would support murder, theft, adultery, etc. One must keep the historical realities of ancient times in mind when one confronts accounts of atrocities.

There is one reality with billions of versions.





Also tagged with yahweh, moloch, el, god, bible

0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users