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#16    DKO

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 12:42 PM

View Postand then, on 30 January 2013 - 11:51 AM, said:

It wasn't intended as a remonstrance, just an observation.  At one point an Australian citizen had a right to own firearms and now they no longer have such a right, is this not correct?  Can you, if you were so minded today, go and purchase a firearm?

That's a good point about the freedom, two different ways to look at it.

But today, like Wearer of Hats said, it's not impossible to purchase a gun, just not easy. It would involve a lot of paperwork, a lot of verification by many groups, constant checkups and possibly even training would have to take place. Plus all the secure lockups you would need to be installed in your home.

They didn't totally ban guns, just made ownership extremely stricter. And since then, crime rates have dropped dramatically, not just gun crimes.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 11:17 PM

View Postand then, on 30 January 2013 - 11:51 AM, said:

It wasn't intended as a remonstrance, just an observation.  At one point an Australian citizen had a right to own firearms and now they no longer have such a right, is this not correct?  Can you, if you were so minded today, go and purchase a firearm?

I could. That of course, granted that it was an air rifle.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 11:35 PM

View Postand then, on 30 January 2013 - 11:51 AM, said:

It wasn't intended as a remonstrance, just an observation.  At one point an Australian citizen had a right to own firearms and now they no longer have such a right, is this not correct?  Can you, if you were so minded today, go and purchase a firearm?
Could you? Or would you have to go through background checks and so forth?
We have background checks etc. We restrict the type of guns allowed to be brought. But as I said, if I wanted to, I could. I even know where I'd go to get a weapon.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 04:01 AM

View Postand then, on 30 January 2013 - 11:51 AM, said:

It wasn't intended as a remonstrance, just an observation.  At one point an Australian citizen had a right to own firearms and now they no longer have such a right, is this not correct?  Can you, if you were so minded today, go and purchase a firearm?

Of course we can have firearms , I have 3 of them in my gun safe at home :gun:

The only thing we can't do is own semi-automatic , pump action weapons or pistols ( pistols you can have if you have a special licence , security guard , target shooting etc) .

We can't just go into the gun shop and walk out with a gun in the same day , you need to first have a shooters licence and then apply for a permit for the specific gun you want to buy . It's been a while but from memory the permit takes a few weeks to a month to come back , a pain in the ass but thats the law !

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:13 AM

View PostMichaelW, on 30 January 2013 - 11:17 PM, said:

I could. That of course, granted that it was an air rifle.
An air rifle isnn't a firearm lol   There's no fire.  Just a lot of air.
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:20 AM

For the record I have no problem with gun owners being required to take a safety course as long as it isn't prohibitively expensive.  Nor do I have a problem with making hi capacity magazines no longer legally available - or so expensive that they are almost impossible to come by.  If a citizen is in a firefight and ten rounds at a time isn't enough then they probably are done anyway.  Some compromise is necessary.  But banning a weapon that is responsible for the tiniest fraction of killings while leaving the major offenders (handguns) untouched is outrageous and is purely a sop to the crowd that is scared of their own shadow about the handling and use of something that is essentially a tool.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 10:21 PM

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For the record I have no problem with gun owners being required to take a safety course as long as it isn't prohibitively expensive.  Nor do I have a problem with making hi capacity magazines no longer legally available - or so expensive that they are almost impossible to come by.  If a citizen is in a firefight and ten rounds at a time isn't enough then they probably are done anyway.  Some compromise is necessary.  But banning a weapon that is responsible for the tiniest fraction of killings while leaving the major offenders (handguns) untouched is outrageous and is purely a sop to the crowd that is scared of their own shadow about the handling and use of something that is essentially a tool.
It's a band-aid solution that's worked incredibly well....
The people agitating for gun control got something.
The PM at the time looked like he was doing something about crime.
The criminals made a few bucks on gun buy-backs.
People who didn't own a gun didn't have to worry about it.
The Police looked pro-active about policing for once.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:16 PM

View PostYamato, on 31 January 2013 - 09:13 AM, said:

An air rifle isnn't a firearm lol   There's no fire.  Just a lot of air.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_gun

Just as lethal as an ordinary firearm.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 06:07 AM

At the time of when this all happend I had a semi auto and a pump action.. ok i was a bit miffed that I was loosing my hunting guns.. but in all reality.. that was just me being lazy :) .. I just had to end up digging out the old bolt action and the under and over ..

dont have my guns anymore.. got to the point where it was dead money.. lost interest in shooting so sold them to my nephew..

Have had a few run ins with NRA supporters on a couple of forums re the aussie attitude towards guns.. and the misconceptions that gun related crime is on the rise.. which it isnt :D and most aussies really dont give a rats about owning guns..

if someone breaks into your house with a gun.. and you have one.. its not going to make a difference on how powerful it is.. how many bullets it will fire.. it will come down to who pulls the trigger first.. personally.. the advocates I know for the return of the semi auto's and like the NRA really are not that good of shooter :) if you cant hit it the first time.. then you may as well give up shooting.. because your still going to waste more bullets each time you try to hit what your shooting at afterwards..





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