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#1186    Sir Wearer of Hats

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 10:01 PM

View Postthe L, on 09 December 2012 - 09:57 PM, said:

True. Some sites were not done by Inca. It was done by pre-Inca cultures/civilizations.
Some of the more fringe theorists suggest that it was by the culture that is currently called "Old Europe" (ie pre-Etruscan).
Others suggest our old friend Atlantis.
At least one (Philip Coppens) suggests that Old Europe and Atlantis are the same.

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 10:09 PM

I pilfered this from another AA thread...

View PostHarte, on 08 December 2012 - 01:49 AM, said:

Lasers are hot, are they not?  I mean, to remove stone in nice channels using a laser would certainly involve melting the stone, no matter how "advanced" the laser may be.
Melted stone, once cooled at atmospheric pressure, is no longer the stone it was.  It is basalt after that.
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Zoser, that hole we're both intrigued by - is it basalt? Is there a crust of basalt?
If not, then as we understand the interaction of heat and stone then it wasn't excavated by a laser.

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 10:23 PM

Whats the hardness of some of the Heads in here ? 7 to 8 or Greater ? :no:
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Posted 09 December 2012 - 10:42 PM

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Stone at Cuzco. It goes all the way trough it. Area has become blackened by being touched so much. Now who wouldnt start asking questions.
I see Zoser as one person who looking for answers. He just needs to digg further. But theres no answer on all. None could answer on all. No historians or no archaeologists. So stop calling him troll. In order to learn we all must act like sudents.

Edited by the L, 09 December 2012 - 10:43 PM.

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 10:44 PM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 09 December 2012 - 10:01 PM, said:

Some of the more fringe theorists suggest that it was by the culture that is currently called "Old Europe" (ie pre-Etruscan).
Others suggest our old friend Atlantis.
At least one (Philip Coppens) suggests that Old Europe and Atlantis are the same.

It wasnt only one. Last person I stuble upon is Ior Bock and his Bock Saga.

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 10:50 PM

This is what Oniomancer posted today in another thread. I think you should watch it, Zoser:

View PostOniomancer, on 09 December 2012 - 02:59 AM, said:

Adding some more reference material.

I don't seem to've posted this here before though I meant to and since the issue of drilling precise holes in stone has come up elsewhere of late:



Another reference on Maori stoneworking, some of it repeated from the previous but most not:

http://nzetc.victori...body-d5-d6.html

More examples of hand-powered stone-cutting methods:

http://www.vam.ac.uk...ahans-jade-cup/

http://www.thecarvin...dpost__p__24266



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Posted 09 December 2012 - 10:58 PM

View Postthe L, on 09 December 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

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Stone at Cuzco. It goes all the way trough it. Area has become blackened by being touched so much. Now who wouldnt start asking questions.
I see Zoser as one person who looking for answers. He just needs to digg further. But theres no answer on all. None could answer on all. No historians or no archaeologists. So stop calling him troll. In order to learn we all must act like sudents.
Students have open minds.

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 11:03 PM

View Postzoser, on 07 December 2012 - 07:00 PM, said:

As usual psyche I follow not your argument.  The holes at PP are extremely precise well beyond the ken and wit of indian folk that were supposed to have created them.  The discussion relating to the GP concerned exposure of the sandstone core masonry by the stripping away of the protective Tura white limestone casing blocks.  There is evidence of perfect holes at Egypt as well.

Now that's my understanding of the discussion.  What's yours?

You follow not my argument?

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My take is that you know what is causing the holes, but deliberately refuse the best explanation so that you can talk aliens. You are dismissing the achievements of man for your fantasy. It has been proven to you how the holes were made (remember you said impossible with copper? Not so vocal on that front now are you) but you refuse to accept the explanation and trying to fall back on a story of inexperience with stonework, and no understanding of weathering. Yet it has been explained in good enough detail for a primary school child to understand. You do not have a point, you have no smoking gun. You are trying to play dumb, that is not working with me.

You have a history of refusing rational explanation for unfounded wild explanation with no support whatsoever. As such, my take is that you are simply deliberately flaming in an attempt to flush out any lurker that might be ignorant enough to support your ridiculous claims and notions.

As far as Puma Punku goes, we have an entire page of lies spread by the AA people, verified, and all of which are only used to promote ratings. We have architecturally advanced construction projects such as the Colosseum and the Pantheon which put Puma Punku to shame, and have good records that smash any ridiculous alien claims. And that is why you avoid discussing these structures like a plague.

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 11:03 PM

View Postzoser, on 09 December 2012 - 05:21 PM, said:

Nice little quotation for you:


"How were such titanic blocks of stone brought to the top of the mountain from the quarries many miles away? How were they cut and fitted? How were they raised and put in place? Now one knows, no one can even guess. There are archaeologists, scientists, who would have us believe that the dense, hard andesite rock was cut, surfaced and faced by means of stone or bronze tools. Such an explanation is so utterly preposterous that it is not even worthy of serious consideration. No one ever has found anywhere any stone tool or implement that would cut or chip the andesite, and no bronze ever made will make any impression upon it."

A. Hyatt & Ruth Verrill ----America's Ancient Civilizations





Except they didnt have iron. Meteoric Iron daggers like have had Inuits, Egyptians and Aztecs. When Spainyards ask Aztecs from where did you get this? They pointed in the sky.
That just my suggestion. It might not be true.

Edited by the L, 09 December 2012 - 11:08 PM.

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 11:05 PM

View Postzoser, on 07 December 2012 - 07:02 PM, said:

Then you will never ever prevent tool wander.  QED

Try it.

Have tried it, and yes you can prevent tool wander.

Do you know what a holesaw is Zoser? I take it you have never, ever used one?

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 11:06 PM

View Postpsyche101, on 09 December 2012 - 11:03 PM, said:

You follow not my argument?

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My take is that you know what is causing the holes, but deliberately refuse the best explanation so that you can talk aliens. You are dismissing the achievements of man for your fantasy. It has been proven to you how the holes were made (remember you said impossible with copper? Not so vocal on that front now are you) but you refuse to accept the explanation and trying to fall back on a story of inexperience with stonework, and no understanding of weathering. Yet it has been explained in good enough detail for a primary school child to understand. You do not have a point, you have no smoking gun. You are trying to play dumb, that is not working with me.

You have a history of refusing rational explanation for unfounded wild explanation with no support whatsoever. As such, my take is that you are simply deliberately flaming in an attempt to flush out any lurker that might be ignorant enough to support your ridiculous claims and notions.

As far as Puma Punku goes, we have an entire page of lies spread by the AA people, verified, and all of which are only used to promote ratings. We have architecturally advanced construction projects such as the Colosseum and the Pantheon which put Puma Punku to shame, and have good records that smash any ridiculous alien claims. And that is why you avoid discussing these structures like a plague.

Well, willful ignorance is very obviously on display here. Sadly so.

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 11:06 PM

View Postzoser, on 07 December 2012 - 07:04 PM, said:

Nah.  Look again.  Not human at all.

Yep. Looked again. Human. It seems that you are the one with the problem.

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 11:08 PM

View Postzoser, on 09 December 2012 - 09:13 PM, said:

Let's be clear; no one has been able to witness precision megalithic constructions; if the did it was never recorded.

This is a lie. You have been shown multiple times that this is not the case. Multiple people have shown you multiple instances where first hand accounts of construction has been recorded. You just ignore it.

And for the love of god would you explain to me why the hell aliens would spend time carving and stacking rocks? This has to be the stupidest explanation ever.

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 11:10 PM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 09 December 2012 - 10:58 PM, said:

Students have open minds.

Im openminded. Tell me how did they cut so precise tiny brick? :lol: Maybe it isnt hard at all but it is mystery to me. And why?

Edited by the L, 09 December 2012 - 11:10 PM.

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 11:12 PM

View Postthe L, on 09 December 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

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Stone at Cuzco. It goes all the way trough it. Area has become blackened by being touched so much. Now who wouldnt start asking questions.
I see Zoser as one person who looking for answers. He just needs to digg further. But theres no answer on all. None could answer on all. No historians or no archaeologists. So stop calling him troll. In order to learn we all must act like sudents.

He is a troll. There are answers for most of the "questions" that he has, he just ignores them because they don't fit his belief that aliens stacked and carved those rocks.
He is not acting like a student, he is acting like a troll.

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