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#1    ranrod

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 10:42 PM

If it was common knowledge that if Jesus existed, he looked similar to the guy on the left, and nothing like the guy on the right, how many would not become Christians?

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 10:46 PM

Why does this even matter?

A savior's a savior. He could be purple and polka-doted for all I care.

Jesus Christ - Matthew 28:18-20 said:

"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 10:52 PM

doesnt matter to me but people should of explained to the masses when they went on the crusades cus they wouldnt be able to tell jew from turk

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 11:12 PM

The ignorant masses are very judgemental so it would have a huge impact. However, there would be exceptions who wouldn't be as shallow and would be able to see past the looks.

Obviously the ones already deeply Christian wouldn't care, but it would put people off from converting. Atheists and other religions would also use the looks as ad hominem attacks.

Edited by SirMorgenStar, 09 February 2013 - 11:15 PM.


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Posted 09 February 2013 - 11:20 PM

View PostSirMorgenStar, on 09 February 2013 - 11:12 PM, said:

The ignorant masses are very judgemental so it would have a huge impact.

So let me get this straight....there's the 'deeply Christians' and then there's the 'Ignorant Masses',so far, so good?

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 11:24 PM

View Postealdwita, on 09 February 2013 - 11:20 PM, said:

So let me get this straight....there's the 'deeply Christians' and then there's the 'Ignorant Masses',so far, so good?

No, there's the ignorant masses and the smaller group who aren't as ignorant. Most people are very ignorant, it has nothing to do with religion.


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Posted 09 February 2013 - 11:52 PM

Why pick out Christians to have a go at...Are you a Christian or another S***stirring other sort,?....Looks are skin deep,its the personality that counts.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 11:54 PM

View PostSirMorgenStar, on 09 February 2013 - 11:24 PM, said:

No, there's the ignorant masses and the smaller group who aren't as ignorant. Most people are very ignorant, it has nothing to do with religion.

I'm inclined to agree.

Although the Christians that would actually have a problem with it would most likely do one of two things: deny it anyway, or fall from faith. Therefore some new great questions would suddenly arise, such as:
  • Were they really true Christians?
  • If not, does intelligence have a factor in salvation?
  • Does this mean that the majority of Christians aren't saved?
It would in my opinion be a great way to divide up the radicals, the hypocrites, and the devout.

Jesus Christ - Matthew 28:18-20 said:

"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 11:58 PM

View PostSirMorgenStar, on 09 February 2013 - 11:12 PM, said:

The ignorant masses are very judgemental so it would have a huge impact. However, there would be exceptions who wouldn't be as shallow and would be able to see past the looks.

Obviously the ones already deeply Christian wouldn't care, but it would put people off from converting. Atheists and other religions would also use the looks as ad hominem attacks.
If one believes the accounts of scripture - which I assume most Christians would - after the Lord returns there will no longer BE any Atheists.  They will either accept His rule or perish but certainly they will believe.  And RULE is exactly what He will do.  With "a rod of iron".  The meaning is inescapable that He will allow no disrespect or disobedience.  Fortunately He is about love so His rule will not be a painful burden, but an experience of utmost wonder and joy.  I think that it will be during this time that humanity will finally become aware of the WHY we have so long sought.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 11:59 PM

View PostAquilaChrysaetos, on 09 February 2013 - 10:46 PM, said:

Why does this even matter?

A savior's a savior. He could be purple and polka-doted for all I care.
I see people in America, especially in the political arena (but not exclusively) that tout their Christian faith on one hand, and on the other express xenophobia against people of middle-eastern decent, seemingly without realizing that he/she worships a middle-eastern man.


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 12:02 AM

View Postand then, on 09 February 2013 - 11:58 PM, said:

If one believes the accounts of scripture - which I assume most Christians would - after the Lord returns there will no longer BE any Atheists.  They will either accept His rule or perish but certainly they will believe.  And RULE is exactly what He will do.  With "a rod of iron".  The meaning is inescapable that He will allow no disrespect or disobedience.  Fortunately He is about love so His rule will not be a painful burden, but an experience of utmost wonder and joy.  I think that it will be during this time that humanity will finally become aware of the WHY we have so long sought.
You make him sound like a bloodthirsty warlord.  I guess that why he said, "But I say unto you, Love your enemies... Let me smite them alone and drink their blood and feast upon their shriveled black hearts..." -Mathew 5


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 12:04 AM

View Postand then, on 09 February 2013 - 11:58 PM, said:

If one believes the accounts of scripture - which I assume most Christians would - after the Lord returns there will no longer BE any Atheists.

Well, I don't believe all scripture, especially that of Revelation, but that's for a different topic I suppose...

Jesus Christ - Matthew 28:18-20 said:

"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 12:06 AM

View Postranrod, on 10 February 2013 - 12:02 AM, said:

You make him sound like a bloodthirsty warlord.  I guess that why he said, "But I say unto you, Love your enemies... Let me smite them alone and drink their blood and feast upon their shriveled black hearts..." -Mathew 5

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 12:09 AM

View Postranrod, on 09 February 2013 - 11:59 PM, said:

I see people in America, especially in the political arena (but not exclusively) that tout their Christian faith on one hand, and on the other express xenophobia against people of middle-eastern decent, seemingly without realizing that he/she worships a middle-eastern man.

It's simply out of sheer ignorance, raw stupidity, and an incredibley high level of naivety to the typical Christian propaganda expressed by the richly dressed hypocrites running many of the modern day churches...

It unfortunately fosters the ugly stereotype that most Christians are intolerant racist ignorant fools... <_<  So I know what you mean...

Jesus Christ - Matthew 28:18-20 said:

"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 12:13 AM

View Postranrod, on 10 February 2013 - 12:02 AM, said:

You make him sound like a bloodthirsty warlord.  I guess that why he said, "But I say unto you, Love your enemies... Let me smite them alone and drink their blood and feast upon their shriveled black hearts..." -Mathew 5

Woooooooooooaaaaaaaaahhhh there buddy, That last sentence ain't in Matthew 5, so please don't put it there...

Jesus Christ - Matthew 28:18-20 said:

"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."

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