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So is it OK to wear fur now?

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#1    MoorWalks

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 03:57 PM

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Not so long ago, it was more acceptable to smoke next to a baby than it was to sport a coat made from fox, mink or chinchilla. Such was public disgust, those who did venture out in a pelt were likely to find themselves deluged with red paint.

But how times have changed. Once taboo, fur is now a regular sight on the catwalk, with labels such as Armani, Temperley and Vionnet using it in their collections.

At the Cheltenham Festival last week, race-goers turned up swathed in expensive mink and raccoon coats, while on the red carpet, A-listers such as Kate Moss and Rihanna are as happy to strike a pose in a fur as they are in lace. So what does that mean for the rest of us? Is fur now OK to wear?

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 05:13 PM

Here in Southeast Louisiana, nutria are a plentiful nuisance. They tend to dig tunnels no matter where they are (even in a city) and undermine the integrity of the land. They are killed for their meat and fur. I've seen a full length nutria coat as beautiful as any other. I have no problems with nutria fur coats.

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 05:33 PM

Fur never went out of style but I won't buy it. I have occasionally borrowed a fox fur from my sister to wear to formal affairs and I feel guilty wearing it. :blush:


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Posted 20 March 2013 - 08:44 PM

Animal fur only ever belongs on the animal it came from.

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 08:57 PM

Not a big fur fan.  It requires special handling and storage, and can't be cleaned easily.   Why bother when there are easier ways to keep warm?   I know some people think it's glamourous for some reason.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 05:43 PM

I don't like the look of fur, it may be expensive but makes women look cheap.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 06:00 PM

In places like Alaska and Siberia, its understandable for them to wear fur, especially if they hunt the animals to eat, then why not use the fur to keep warm?
Sausages are made up of what can not be sold as a cut, so if it is ok for them not to waste it, then the same should go for fur.

We have the fox thing were people want foxes killed, I do not agree with this because the meat is not used for food, but where meat is used as food then I can not see why the fur or hide can not be made use of.

As for models  or the rich buying it to show off their wealth....NO, that is wrong. Use the fur as a necessity and not a fashion statement!!

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 06:46 PM

Follow the money, it's always about money. Governments of "resource rich" countries like Canada and Russia continue to tout the "traditional economies" like trapping. Justin Trudeau, who will most likely by the next Prime Minister was featured with his family draped in furs for his official Christmas card photo.

"Mr. Trudeau's office refused to comment on PETA's fiery reaction to the cards. But spokesman Alex Lanthier says Mr. Trudeau and his family were wearing parkas made by Canada Goose, a Canadian company that has a "sustainable way" of collecting fur."

Ah yes, well as long as it's sustainable, by all means continue to lay out traps which kill indiscriminately.


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Posted 21 March 2013 - 06:54 PM

I am totally unsure why some animal activists make a huge deal out of fur but not leather. An animal is dying either way.

Tight leather gloves are so cool!


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Posted 21 March 2013 - 06:58 PM

I'm ok with wearing fur. I own a few vintage furs that I have picked up in resale shops over the years. Most of them are more for garb purposes than anything else. I do love wearing my wool with beaver trim coat from the 40's- it's so nice and warm.
I don't buy new fur though, I find it pointless and unnecessary to spend that much money- and usually I find more modern styles really unappealing.


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 11:35 AM

View PostLeave Britney alone!, on 21 March 2013 - 06:54 PM, said:

I am totally unsure why some animal activists make a huge deal out of fur but not leather. An animal is dying either way.

No one's responded to this logical fallacy (tu quoque) so here goes;





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Posted 22 March 2013 - 12:20 PM

View Postfreetoroam, on 21 March 2013 - 06:00 PM, said:

In places like Alaska and Siberia, its understandable for them to wear fur, especially if they hunt the animals to eat, then why not use the fur to keep warm?
Sausages are made up of what can not be sold as a cut, so if it is ok for them not to waste it, then the same should go for fur.

We have the fox thing were people want foxes killed, I do not agree with this because the meat is not used for food, but where meat is used as food then I can not see why the fur or hide can not be made use of.

As for models  or the rich buying it to show off their wealth....NO, that is wrong. Use the fur as a necessity and not a fashion statement!!

If you want to wear furs to keep warm, you should wear them inside out, like the Inuit do.

I don't see that happen  very soon on a catwalk.


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 12:49 PM

One thing about people who flaunt furs in public is that it doesn't take long for someone to "spill" something nasty on it.


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 03:40 PM

I have a fur cap that I wear.  It keeps my ears warmer than anything else that I have when I have to go feed the horses on cold winter days.

I don't know why they make a big deal out of furs when nothing is said about leather.  Maybe because they like their leather shoes and handbags.


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 03:52 PM

I have trouble as it is rationalizing my Buddhist heritage with eating meat, and now you guys bring up leather and furs and so on.  

Most Buddhists take the command to respect and protect all sentient beings (meaning anything with eyes) as meaning one cannot kill them.  Still, they do -- they have no problem swatting a mosquito (unless they are a really revered monk -- and what mosquito is going to bother him?).  I long ago abandoned that definition of sentience and limited it to animals with pleasure/pain pathways in the brain -- basically mammals.

I have also developed a different take.  When the animal has a better life being raised to be a product than it would have had in the wild, and when the animal is killed with no pain or fear, then I take it this meets the Buddhist precept.  Indeed, one is doing the animal a favor by giving it the karma of help humans.  

But what about animals taken in the wild by hunting?  Justifying this is more difficult.  Obviously the Inuit who must kill to survive, and who does the rituals of his culture and so on is within Buddhist bounds.  In parts of the world where natural controls no longer exist, so that without hunting overpopulation and its ensuing Malthusian suffering would ensue, proper controlled hunting for management purposes seems justified.






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