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Posted 15 December 2010 - 12:40 PM

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The "Stay awake" method:
Here you simply go to bed when you are tired and have your eyes open. You may blink of course now and then so your eyes doesnt dry up. The point is to just lie in your bed with your eyes open just like if you are awake and just look around in the room and notice everything in the room, take care of looking at all details and making it imprinted into your mind, just lie there in bed with your eyes open until you pass out / fall asleep from being too tired. At this point you may find yourself in your astral body, or in the astral state ready to project, because your body is asleep but your mind/astral body should still be awake as you forced yourself to stay awake - it was your body falling asleep. To enhance this method you can repeat over and over some times like a mantra or self-suggestion in your mind "When my body falls asleep, I will be awake in my astral body and project" - this can increase the effect and program your mind to automatically become aware inside your astral body when you fall asleep.

Am i able to astral project even im awake?
Sometimes when i make my body (Specially my hands) relaxed and steady, i feel the vibration (Only partial Sleep paralysis since i can move my head).
But i dont know how to control it ^^ maybe i should try some techniques to induce ego travelling (Astral Projection)

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 04:29 PM

All the astrial techniques on this thread are wake induced. If you acomplish it properly you should not loose conciousness.
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Posted 16 August 2011 - 03:54 AM

Here, all you whom are interested in astral projection and looking for useful tips to increase chances for success, I am reviving this several years old thread of mine as it contains lots of useful information that can come in handy, as well as the answers to a lot of the common questions i see asked over and over again.

Take a look through the tips and information here, and hopefully you will find some use of it

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Posted 16 August 2011 - 05:34 AM

View Postdarkbreed, on 16 August 2011 - 03:54 AM, said:

Here, all you whom are interested in astral projection and looking for useful tips to increase chances for success, I am reviving this several years old thread of mine as it contains lots of useful information that can come in handy, as well as the answers to a lot of the common questions i see asked over and over again.

Take a look through the tips and information here, and hopefully you will find some use of it

Good luck!
We should do a FAQ thread. That would be very usefull.
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Posted 16 August 2011 - 02:18 PM

View PostSeeker79, on 16 August 2011 - 05:34 AM, said:

We should do a FAQ thread. That would be very usefull.

Yes that is a very good idea. Perhaps we could get it pinned at top so it will be easily visible for anyone going into the forum.

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Posted 16 August 2011 - 02:42 PM

I can't stress enough how important it is to NOT try this after being awake for a full day.  Your mind and body will be too tired and the chemicals necessary to maintain the mind awake/body asleep stage will be low.  Is it possible?  Absolutely.  But it's an uphill battle.  This is one of my greatest struggles, getting up early and actually being in the mood to project!  

There are two ways to project-- Classic Exit and Phasing.  

Classic Exit is where you feel the vibrations and you feel like you have actually left your body.  You will be floating in your actual bedroom and will be able to look down at your actual body laying in bed.  To do this, you allow yourself to go into sleep paralysis and then do an exit technique.  This is covered in great detail elsewhere  :)

Phasing is where you basically let the astral come to you.  Simply "notice" the darkness behind your eyes.  There's not much to see at first but soon you will start getting glimpes of the astral-- perhaps you heard someone call your name, or saw movement in your peripheral vision.  It's important to be a passive observer, otherwise when you see the movement your physical eyes will move and there goes your trance.   <_<   The 2-D blackness in front of your eyes will shortly expand to 3-D blackness.  The feeling is unmistakeable!  The 3-D blackness is fun in and of itself-- you can view windows into the Astral where it's like watching the cinema.  As fun as this is, we want to have a full-blown OOBE.  So we use our Intent to travel to anywhere in the astral.  

The downside of Phasing is, as far as I know you can't Phase into the Real Time Zone.  Only the Astral.

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 11:48 PM

If phasing is like remote viewing or 'conscious mental projection' then you can see in live time.  I've been thinking of ways to try and convey a technique for this that would make sense to others.

As for FAQ's what is your idea for that exactly? The astral travel thread currently works as question thread or are you thinking of something more organised? I was also thinking it could be interesting to start an Astral Experiences/Projections/Dream thread for astral related things only. Not techniques or non astral dreams. Either way, pinning those threads should be no problem I can do that.
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Posted 18 August 2011 - 01:40 AM

View PostAnVil, on 17 August 2011 - 11:48 PM, said:

If phasing is like remote viewing or 'conscious mental projection' then you can see in live time.  I've been thinking of ways to try and convey a technique for this that would make sense to others.

As for FAQ's what is your idea for that exactly? The astral travel thread currently works as question thread or are you thinking of something more organised? I was also thinking it could be interesting to start an Astral Experiences/Projections/Dream thread for astral related things only. Not techniques or non astral dreams. Either way, pinning those threads should be no problem I can do that.

Yes, phasing, at least from how he described it, sounds pretty much as a "inner vision" type of experience. Such visions are very common to experience late at night when very tired and lying down in bed with closed eyes, at least for me. I often take advantage of these visions, as they come completely randomly and show basically anything, and just think of something I would like to see and explore, such as Mars, and then it will tune into that and start being like watching from the perspective of a camera flying around the surface of mars. This method is completely mental, meaning you and your body stays completely awake and alert and able to function as normal, and there is no sense of disconnection from the body or other sensations, just a clear view of a location with the eyes closed, where you can direct it around to places of interest. I often prefer this method, since it is much easier and quicker to do than a full separation from the body and a "real" astral projection, but it is equally useful. You can travel through different astral planes, meet and communicate with other entities, and mostly anything else that you can do while under a full blown astral projection separated from the physical body.

Actually it is very similar to a method Carl Jung used and taught for traveling and communicating with Archetypes etc, which has been further developed and perfected by Edwin Steinbrecher as detailed in his book The Inner Guide Meditation - a true masterpiece and highly useful method on its own, where you work more with "the inner worlds" of yourself rather than exploring the "outer external worlds". Going inwards like that, to communicate with different aspects of yourself, is highly useful and can teach you a lot, I'd recommend this book to anyone. And this technique taught there can easily be adapted for general astral projection use as well. The specific "inner guide" technique incorporates a bit more sensations than vision alone though, such as making oneself feel ones body "there" in the location viewed, touch surroundings, etc - but this is all while being fully awake and aware, conscious of your physical body, and able to function as normal.

Since I already wrote a long article about this technique and different aspects of what one can encounter there etc, I will quote a part of the actual method itself since some may find it useful as a way to induce astral projections:

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First of all find yourself in a comfortable position either in a nice chair with both feet on the ground, separated not crossed, and your arms by your sides - or simply lie down in bed or on your coach to relax there.

During this meditation it is important that you do not "drift away" or get into a "trance state", you have to be conscious throughout the whole procedure and be aware of everything you do and experience.

Thus you should try to do this when you are fresh and awake and not when tired or sleepy.

Once in your position, mentally imagine yourself somewhere else, such as in a cave. Feel and sense yourself there, and experience yourself as being INSIDE your body looking out from your own eyes - this is also crucial for this meditation, you need to experience yourself as "being there" and NOT as if you are watching yourself on a film screen. To "anchor" yourself more within yourself it can be good to touch your surroundings, feel your feet on the ground, notice the details - is the ground flat or bumpy, rocky and solid or sandy, how does it smell in there, do you hear any sounds, how does the walls feel when you touch them with your hands, look at your hands and see what they look like, look down at your body and see what your body and legs look like - how are you dressed?

Make this as vivid and clear as you can in your mind, really sensing yourself as being there and able to have a solid image of the place you are experiencing yourself to be - always go back into "your body" in any place you go during the meditation, should you suddenly see yourself from the outside in the cave, simply slip back inside yourself and make sure you look out through your eyes and see the surroundings as you would in real life, as clear as you can.

Work on this first part for a while so you really get it as strong as you can visually and in your imagination, sensing it as clear and powerful as possible.

If you for some reason do not like caves, you can imagine yourself somewhere else, such as in a room, or in a garden etc, just make sure to keep to the same procedure described above.

Now once in your cave, look around and see a door in front of you. This can also simply be a passage, a open portal, or any other sort of opening leading forwards from where you are at, and with an exit behind you from where you came into this cave - similarly imagine such things if you imagine yourself anywhere else than in a cave.

Walk forward, while walking notice the feet stomping on the ground, let your hands touch the surroundings, the rocks, when by the portal touch it, look at it, study it for a while. Then continue forward and through it.

Once you have either gone through it, or if you are walking in a passage, immediately turn to your left and now find yourself in a new landscape, as if you have found your way out of the cave and now are outside the mountain the cave is in. Or out of the house, garden, or whatever else place you may have preferred to imagine yourself.

In either case, after moving forward, and then turning left, notice the landscape your are now in. In the whole process let the images come to you, dont try to force it or create it with your mind, just be open like a blank piece of film where the image is slowly becoming clearer and manifesting itself.

Study these new surroundings, where are you? Inside or outside? Is it hot or cold? Dry or wet? Is the ground hard or soft, is it any smells there, touch your nearby surroundings with your hands and look around.

For the rest, it can be found in my full article here: http://www.pleiadian...ide-change.html

Now in the original method, which I quoted the first part of the method itself from, it focuses on meeting your "Inner Guide" to work with yourself, improve situations in your life, find out reasons behind certain issues you may have etc, a very useful psychological tool for self-improvement and understanding yourself and that around you. That on its own can be extremely adventurous, interesting, insightful and useful - though for direct astral projection uses doing the above mentioned part of this method should help many obtain a perception of an external location and thus be able to explore it. When reaching the last part I quoted, where you're studying the surroundings, you could simply imagine another doorway somewhere, or a portal , a hole in the sky or anything else with the intention of going to a specific location when entering such. And it should then be possible to "teleport" from your imagined location to a real external location you want to explore or visit. The more its practiced, the easier and more clear and vivid it becomes.

Once you've gotten experienced with this method, you could either try to travel directly to the location you want from the very start using the same principles and techniques, or you could do as I've done and create your own astral sanctum - as I call it - a world of your own that functions as a "headquarte" for different types of astral / spiritual activities such as a portal to enter other places, a place to meet spirit guides and communicate, a place you can view your past lives, a place for healing, and deeper spiritual meditations and experiences. I have found this extremely useful, and its a great place to have where you can always go when you want to explore something or just have fun or relax. This place will also become more and more stable, clear, fixed and real the more you practice and truly becomes a world of your own which will get more and more easy to visit. I can "go" there almost instantly, even if just sitting here now closing my eyes, the place quickly starts to show if i focus on that.

If you're already good at imagining places and have a natural tendencies to easily have clear visions when you're relaxing with closed eyes , whether in bed or elsewhere, you could skip the whole "inner guide" approach mentioned and go directly to this "astral sanctum" method instead as it should be fairly easy in such a case. Since it will be too much to quote the whole method in its full here I'll just link to the original article I wrote on how to do it and what you can do there:
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Posted 18 August 2011 - 03:03 AM

View PostAnVil, on 17 August 2011 - 11:48 PM, said:

If phasing is like remote viewing or 'conscious mental projection' then you can see in live time.  I've been thinking of ways to try and convey a technique for this that would make sense to others.

As for FAQ's what is your idea for that exactly? The astral travel thread currently works as question thread or are you thinking of something more organised? I was also thinking it could be interesting to start an Astral Experiences/Projections/Dream thread for astral related things only. Not techniques or non astral dreams. Either way, pinning those threads should be no problem I can do that.
The biggest thing is that we have to keep repeating ourselves. For new people its hard to poor over all the conversations. We need a place to consolidate the info. Also have several answers from different perspectives. We all have a few little quirks of perspective.. We may not always agree on certain things. Several answers will keep it from being dogmatic. Even from a skeptic traveler like Ai gurdian.

A FAQ will consolidate all of this. Maby anvil could copy our answers to questions as they popp up. And put them in the FAQ..... And when the many repeat questions come up we can refer them there.
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Posted 18 August 2011 - 06:49 PM

Have you read my lucid dream epiphany? i didnt realise astral projection and lucid dreaming were different. you seem quite experienced at these things. i lucid dreamed 2 nites ago like ten times, where as normaly i can only do it once. im thinking about doing your opened eyed method how long does it take you to get into the astral state now that your good at it?
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Posted 18 August 2011 - 07:09 PM

View PostBlueguardian, on 29 April 2008 - 01:16 PM, said:

<!--quoteo(post=2138763:date=Feb 7 2008, 06:05 PM:name=HolyRocketPropelledGrenade)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (HolyRocketPropelledGrenade @ Feb 7 2008, 06:05 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2138763"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I have tried both of these methods too, but I dont usually leave the room I have gone right up to the door and I get stuck and cant picture the door opening for me or me going through it. Concentrating and focusing on something in the room has also helped me, but I usually get stuck doing that.
Rapidly waking up and going back to sleep also has helped me as well as a  night of FPS zombie/alien killing or a really good scary movie. I usually will myself out by reminding myself that its just a dream, and proof I enter that transition. Sometimes I have to die/get eaten in my dreams before I can will myself out. I can also do it when I start the dream knowing im dreaming, then its a lot easier to get the process going.

Im gonna try some of the other methods too! Thanks for posting this info! I thought I was the only crazy one flying around in my sleep <img src="http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/original.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="original.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I havnt even got that far yet, i havn't got anywhere yet, but the reason you can't go through the door is because you doubt that you can, maybe don't visualise the door opening, just see the door there and go through it, you have to believe that you can pass through it otherwise it will keep you in your room, remember physics have no meainging in the astral. You probably already know all that though. Somebody corret me if i have made any mistakes in my above statment. Cheers

if you cant go through the door, climb out the window lol
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Posted 19 August 2011 - 12:24 AM

View PostArmchair Educated, on 18 August 2011 - 06:49 PM, said:

Have you read my lucid dream epiphany? i didnt realise astral projection and lucid dreaming were different. you seem quite experienced at these things. i lucid dreamed 2 nites ago like ten times, where as normaly i can only do it once. im thinking about doing your opened eyed method how long does it take you to get into the astral state now that your good at it?
According to many, lucid dreaming and astral projection are essentially the same, with some BIG KEY DIFFERENCES.  

In the astral plane, thought = action.  If you see something that causes fear, your circumstances will change to justify your fear.  Which will make you more fearful, which makes your circumstances more fearful, and so on.  This is what we would call a "nightmare."  If someone has passed on and this is happening after, say, a violent death, there is no physical need to wake up to break the cycle.  Hence the need for the retrieval process.  If you are doubtful about your astral experiences, your circumstances will change to justify your doubt.  Perhaps a door in your room will be on the wrong wall, or your bed will be in a different spot.  These are the dreaded "reality fluctuations" that Real-Time projectors often have to deal with.  The issue can be solved by staying emotionally closed and maintaining a quiet mind.

So in a dream, you are "in" the astral, but your logic centers in your brain are fast asleep.  So your subconscious just spits scenes and circumstances out and there you are, going along with dream logic and never knowing any better.  Once in a while you may have objective contact with an actual astral being and so on, but for the most part you are unaware.  

In a lucid dream, you are in the astral and all that, and your logic center is awake.  Great!  Problem is, most lucid dreamers don't realize that they can shut off their dream scene and navigate the Objective Astral.  I have been chatting with a guy who projects from a lucid dream by shutting off his emotions.  The easiest way to do that is basically to adopt a feeling of mild curiosity.  "Hmm, is that building real?"  Alternatively, you can simply stop everything and just be still.  Your dream scene should collapse.

Okay, now you're standing in total blackness.  That's nice and all, but how do you get to the astral?  Simply place your Intent to go somewhere.  You can simply Intend to go to, say, an Astral Bar and have a drink.  Yes you can really go to a bar if you want.  But navigating can be tricky, you may end up on a sandbar or something, or if you're unlucky you might get plopped on some alien world in another galaxy.  Practice makes perfect.  And remember, even though you're in the Objective astral, you need to keep your emotions in check, otherwise your circumstances will change into a subjective dream scene.

This illustration might help.  A dream is like being an actor in a play and not realizing it.  You just go along no matter how crazy things are.  A lucid dream is like being an actor who knows he's in a play, but stays on the stage and tries to control things.  A lucid dream turned astral experience is like being an actor, who knows he's in a play, who then steps off the stage and leaves the building.

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 12:38 AM

View Postundertheflow, on 19 August 2011 - 12:24 AM, said:

According to many, lucid dreaming and astral projection are essentially the same, with some BIG KEY DIFFERENCES.  

In the astral plane, thought = action.  If you see something that causes fear, your circumstances will change to justify your fear.  Which will make you more fearful, which makes your circumstances more fearful, and so on.  This is what we would call a "nightmare."  If someone has passed on and this is happening after, say, a violent death, there is no physical need to wake up to break the cycle.  Hence the need for the retrieval process.  If you are doubtful about your astral experiences, your circumstances will change to justify your doubt.  Perhaps a door in your room will be on the wrong wall, or your bed will be in a different spot.  These are the dreaded "reality fluctuations" that Real-Time projectors often have to deal with.  The issue can be solved by staying emotionally closed and maintaining a quiet mind.

So in a dream, you are "in" the astral, but your logic centers in your brain are fast asleep.  So your subconscious just spits scenes and circumstances out and there you are, going along with dream logic and never knowing any better.  Once in a while you may have objective contact with an actual astral being and so on, but for the most part you are unaware.  

In a lucid dream, you are in the astral and all that, and your logic center is awake.  Great!  Problem is, most lucid dreamers don't realize that they can shut off their dream scene and navigate the Objective Astral.  I have been chatting with a guy who projects from a lucid dream by shutting off his emotions.  The easiest way to do that is basically to adopt a feeling of mild curiosity.  "Hmm, is that building real?"  Alternatively, you can simply stop everything and just be still.  Your dream scene should collapse.

Okay, now you're standing in total blackness.  That's nice and all, but how do you get to the astral?  Simply place your Intent to go somewhere.  You can simply Intend to go to, say, an Astral Bar and have a drink.  Yes you can really go to a bar if you want.  But navigating can be tricky, you may end up on a sandbar or something, or if you're unlucky you might get plopped on some alien world in another galaxy.  Practice makes perfect.  And remember, even though you're in the Objective astral, you need to keep your emotions in check, otherwise your circumstances will change into a subjective dream scene.

This illustration might help.  A dream is like being an actor in a play and not realizing it.  You just go along no matter how crazy things are.  A lucid dream is like being an actor who knows he's in a play, but stays on the stage and tries to control things.  A lucid dream turned astral experience is like being an actor, who knows he's in a play, who then steps off the stage and leaves the building.
You have come far young padwon I am very proud of you. Just be careful .... What makes sense in writting dosnt always transfer to reality or subtle reality in this case. Lots of perspectives even if they make sense arnt always right. I caution any and everyone to not get tied up in labels and dynamics. We are one if the least intelligent beings---at least for now roaming around out there. I'm always reminded if this when I look down at a bug.
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Posted 19 August 2011 - 12:44 AM

View PostArmchair Educated, on 18 August 2011 - 07:09 PM, said:

if you cant go through the door, climb out the window lol
There is truth to this. Windows are easier when you have this problem. I have literally had to climb through a wall before.

The trick with walls is to focus on the goal not the task. Like a martial artist focus through the wall not on it. You will get through slowly this way, but if you focus on what you want to do the wall will be a non issue. My blogs have my struggles in them "a man awake"
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Posted 19 August 2011 - 03:34 AM

hello guys!

I've become increasingly interested in the whole AP thing. I was quite skeptical at first when I read the wikipedia article, but after reading this forum, I started to change my mind. There is a book by Sylvan Muldoon on the topic ("The Projection of the Astral Body"), any opinions about it? I've starting reading the first few pages and looks cool, but I'd like to hear what you people think about it.

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