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[Slave2Fate]

zoser, on 14 November 2012 - 06:54 PM, said:

Nice pic.  If I were to ask the obvious though; how can one tell categorically that it is atmospheric phenomena?

Project Hessdalen is one group dedicated to researching these particular phenomena. What they have found so far indicates an earthly explanation.

Whether or not we can tell if a UFO report is a plasma or not is a little more complicated. Thus the need for as much information and detail for every account as possible to make a determination if it is or isn't plasma. That is, if plasma is a possibility to begin with.

Sorry for going OT a bit there zoser, I'll let you get back to your discussion of whatever case you deem appropriate. I just wanted to let it be known that if something unexplainable in the sky isn't ours it doesn't by default mean it is theirs.

[zoser]

Some more pics of the three sightings offered for comparison purposes:

Fraserburgh:



Yuma:



Denbigh

[zoser]

Slave2Fate, on 14 November 2012 - 07:12 PM, said:

Project Hessdalen is one group dedicated to researching these particular phenomena. What they have found so far indicates an earthly explanation.

Whether or not we can tell if a UFO report is a plasma or not is a little more complicated. Thus the need for as much information and detail for every account as possible to make a determination if it is or isn't plasma. That is, if plasma is a possibility to begin with.

Sorry for going OT a bit there zoser, I'll let you get back to your discussion of whatever case you deem appropriate. I just wanted to let it be known that if something unexplainable in the sky isn't ours it doesn't by default mean it is theirs.

You make some good points; cya later.

[R4z3rsPar4d0x]

Slave2Fate, on 14 November 2012 - 07:12 PM, said:

Project Hessdalen is one group dedicated to researching these particular phenomena. What they have found so far indicates an earthly explanation.

Whether or not we can tell if a UFO report is a plasma or not is a little more complicated. Thus the need for as much information and detail for every account as possible to make a determination if it is or isn't plasma. That is, if plasma is a possibility to begin with.

Sorry for going OT a bit there zoser, I'll let you get back to your discussion of whatever case you deem appropriate. I just wanted to let it be known that if something unexplainable in the sky isn't ours it doesn't by default mean it is theirs.

How often does this phenomena show itself??

[R4z3rsPar4d0x]

zoser, on 14 November 2012 - 07:40 PM, said:

Some more pics of the three sightings offered for comparison purposes:

Fraserburgh:



Yuma:



Denbigh

Those pics are very similar other than that the top one has 5 lights while the others have  4. Do you think that could be because of the angle the pictures were taken at?

[zoser]

R4z3rsPar4d0x, on 15 November 2012 - 05:18 PM, said:

Those pics are very similar other than that the top one has 5 lights while the others have  4. Do you think that could be because of the angle the pictures were taken at?

Quite possible I just don;t know.  I'm caught by the arc that the lights make.  That must be significant.

That these photo's are not causing some comment I find surprising.  They certainly interest me.  What's your view?

Edited by zoser, 15 November 2012 - 05:35 PM.

[synchronomy]

zoser, on 15 November 2012 - 05:34 PM, said:

Quite possible I just don;t know.  I'm caught by the arc that the lights make.  That must be significant.

That these photo's are not causing some comment I find surprising.  They certainly interest me.  What's your view?

The fact that I'm not commenting isn't reflective of the thought and research I'm putting into this.  Not just these ones, the ETH in general.  It's on my mind a lot.  I'd like to see the Denbigh dude post the rest of his minutes of video about this.  He hasn't even responded to my request.  Boony (I believe) added a comment to the video on Youtube as well.

[R4z3rsPar4d0x]

zoser, on 15 November 2012 - 05:34 PM, said:

Quite possible I just don;t know.  I'm caught by the arc that the lights make.  That must be significant.

That these photo's are not causing some comment I find surprising.  They certainly interest me.  What's your view?

Honostly Zoser I dont know maybe If the shape of what these lights are coming from was more defined I would have a better Idea of what they could be, but the fact that basically the same thing showed up in each of these three different places does cause me to question it.  I mean something definately is going on

[zoser]

R4z3rsPar4d0x, on 15 November 2012 - 07:54 PM, said:

Honostly Zoser I dont know maybe If the shape of what these lights are coming from was more defined I would have a better Idea of what they could be, but the fact that basically the same thing showed up in each of these three different places does cause me to question it.  I mean something definately is going on

Yes I agree it's puzzling that we have no defined shape; I recall that One of the Yuma witnesses did describe a metallic object.   I posted their testimonies a few posts back.  

It's nothing conventional I agree.   At a stretching could imagine it belonging to the black military.  Why would they chose to hang out in a quiet welsh village?  Tomorrow I'll do a check on Fraserburgh to see if it lies near an RAF base.

[synchronomy]

zoser, on 15 November 2012 - 08:26 PM, said:

Yes I agree it's puzzling that we have no defined shape; I recall that One of the Yuma witnesses did describe a metallic object.   I posted their testimonies a few posts back.  

It's nothing conventional I agree.   At a stretching could imagine it belonging to the black military.  Why would they chose to hang out in a quiet welsh village?  Tomorrow I'll do a check on Fraserburgh to see if it lies near an RAF base.

It probably wouldn't even have to be near an RAF base.  In my younger years I spent a lot of time in the Northeast of Scotland.  The whole countryside is used for RAF low-level training.  You could be in the midst of nowhere and a couple, sometimes three or four, fighters would tear through a valley playing cat and mouse.  They would often fly so low I swear you could count the rivets.
A likely source could be:
http://www.raf.mod.uk/raflossiemouth/

[zoser]

synchronomy, on 15 November 2012 - 06:10 PM, said:

The fact that I'm not commenting isn't reflective of the thought and research I'm putting into this.  Not just these ones, the ETH in general.  It's on my mind a lot.  I'd like to see the Denbigh dude post the rest of his minutes of video about this.  He hasn't even responded to my request.  Boony (I believe) added a comment to the video on Youtube as well.

Nice one Synch.  It's good to see it being taken seriously because something is undoubtedly at play.  The three cases cannot be taken lightly.  I also think a good Strategy would be to see if there are any other similar sightings that show the same characteristics.   I'll make this a priority for this evening.  

Be back later.

[zoser]

Lake Okeechobee Florida 2006

Here is what I believe is the same object again.  Filmed some years earlier than the other footage.

Interesting that at around 2:45 the object blinks out and a few seconds later an airliner makes a pass.  Did the UFO blink out because it was coming?

See what you think:

[zoser]

Otway North Carolina - Sept 2012

Another candidate? At 3:15 on the following youtube video:


Best UFO Sightings Of September 2012, AFO

[zoser]

Not related to the above sightings, but perhaps the most intriguing footage I have ever seen; so much so that one wonders if it may be a hoax.  Not sure what to think. No reference as to time or place.

4:34 on the following clip:


Best UFO Sightings November 2012 (Compilation)

[Colonel Rhuairidh]

zoser, on 16 November 2012 - 07:05 PM, said:

Lake Okeechobee Florida 2006

Here is what I believe is the same object again.  Filmed some years earlier than the other footage.

Interesting that at around 2:45 the object blinks out and a few seconds later an airliner makes a pass.  Did the UFO blink out because it was coming?

See what you think:

That is interesting, I must admit. One of the comments claims to argue that it's actually New Zealand, and it was ripped off, but I couldn't possibly say. And wherever it came from, does that mean that it was Faked? if not, what might it be? If it actually is real, then the simple shouts of "Plane, retard" (as another of the comments says) wouldn't seem very likely. Why does it stay in the same spot for so long? It is interesting.