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#31    Rlyeh

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Posted 31 December 2011 - 09:29 PM

View PostThe Interpreter1, on 28 December 2011 - 02:57 AM, said:

Rlyeh,


That is Arabic and refers to ALLAH, not simply Greek numbers.  The most prominent sect that is Islam in the political realm will be used to by the dark one to slay many, but

at the first he will appear to be as a lamb of the Nation of Israel, of the tribe of Dan.

ALLAH whose name is also SIN (SATAN) will directly empower this wicked one.
You're not making sense.

The Book of Revelation was written in greek, and so was the symbols I used.
Our numeral system is comes from arabic.

http://www-gap.dcs.s...c_numerals.html

Edited by Rlyeh, 31 December 2011 - 09:30 PM.


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Posted 01 January 2012 - 04:34 AM

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Nostradamus communicated in a coded language for the same reason any Intelligence agency does, SECURITY.

Or to make it more difficult to prove that what he wrote was complete and utter rubbish.


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If the Quatrain was plainly written and not as a parable,  that would mean anyone with any kind of background could understand

it.  Future events written about would then be altered creating more violence in this world than we already have,


And what is stopping these future events being altered to prevent violence?


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this is why we have the many wars we do because of ungodly entities looking into the Future.


There are no more wars now than there has ever been.

What ungodly entities are you referring too? Is Nostradamus one seeing as you believe he predicts the future?


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Certain Quatrains were not meant to be understood by just anybody for there can be no direct advantage or

even disadvantage created in reading them beyond the advancement of righteousness and those who follow it.

Okay, so you have contradicted yourself. First you say they are written the way they are to prevent people altering future events and now you say reading them gives you no advantage or disadvantage apart from righteousness, make your mind up.

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 01:43 AM

View PostSensible Logic, on 12 December 2011 - 07:55 PM, said:

Interesting but not quite.  It wouldn't be helpful for Satan to bring back the great king of the Mongols - Genghis Khan.  Kahn promoted religious tolerance and thus would make a poor Antichrist.

Unless, of course, by promoting tolerance a thinning diversion from "true religion" were intended.
In that light, tolerance would actually serve such a person/being quite well - an effective long-term strategy.
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View PostHavocWing, on 30 December 2011 - 01:29 AM, said:

In english gematria, God incarnate comes out to 666.

Now that's interesting if true.
The symbolic value of 6, by itself, (to simplify an otherwise lengthy response about subconscious "psychology of symbols") equates to "good enough" or "perfect by my own measure", balanced and in need of no further development and thus already "Godlike" or "Godly" ... not a stretch from that to analyze the psychology of a person defined by the "value" of 6.  But it's a state that stops evolving at that point.  Too long and it fears everything that threatens a developing insecurity, which only grows/grew because it decided to become complacent and "rest on its laurels" as it were.

The 6 which proceeds to continue advancing towards 7 (something closer to true perfection, more or less) overcomes that blockage by adding that "little something extra" and getting over itself and realizing that there is always something bigger, badder, stronger, smarter, faster - without seeing that as a threat (faith, or the modern version, confidence).  Not sure what 3 6's would mean: maybe the 3 major psychological processes or each aspect of the individual trinity concept? (feeling/emotions, objective thinking and interpersonal perception)  That's all assuming that the original Greek symbol didn't have long-standing meaning and it was significant specifically for its numeric value.  He wouldn't have had to know, understand or even be aware of or appreciate the subconscious aspects to have manifested them - he could quite literally have dreamed them up while contemplating unsavory personalities around him at the time.  Something as primal as numbers and the sequence of time/life/death/growth/decay they represent don't require thought's active participation.

The problem is that everyone hits that block at some point(s) throughout life (if you don't understand that now, you will  later).  An ego which refuses to realize itself for what it is will fail to continue to evolve.  Usually such a mind will then drag others down with it, even become obsessed or destructive or in some other manner extreme and "logically irrational" (subjectively, perception-wise) - a need to always be right, a need to rule and conquer and control ... everything, especially anything that threatens the tense condition that is repressed insecurity.  Happens with individuals.  Happens with whole societies, nations and empires.  What starts as a legitimate need for survival becomes something less human and more animal.  Nevertheless, I don't personally see this as unique, presented in numeric format or not, other than this potentially being "the big one" (which does have an exciting quality to it of course).

Interesting though.  ;)


View Postgrendals_bane, on 01 January 2012 - 04:34 AM, said:

Okay, so you have contradicted yourself. First you say they are written the way they are to prevent people altering future events and now you say reading them gives you no advantage or disadvantage apart from righteousness, make your mind up.

I perceive the issue as being with the word "righteousness", which is so strongly subjective that it is likely to be interpreted differently between any random collection of strangers.  What's advantageous to one is apt to be disadvantageous to another, but of no material or worldly value other than for the knowledge/insight/awareness/etc that it might impart (in this case).  Also, wouldn't it be easier to prevent alteration of future events by not saying anything at all? (makes more sense to me anyway)

Of course, that last argument just leads into other modern 'back to the future' speculations about tampering and whatnot... could just as easily end up creating the future we're trying to avoid, in which case history writes that Nostradamus was actually an agent of Satan (assuming history is capable of being written after such a momentous event).



Best just get right with whatever you've got to get right with, then help others do the same (if they're receptive).
Then it doesn't matter one way or the other, when, how, where, what or anything else.

Guess that's what you're trying to do though.  But really, something new might be more effective.
You could say that the church has been so thoroughly infiltrated and corrupted now that there are few left who really want to hear it from that crowd anymore, 'cause really it just sounds hypocritical at this point.


(K.  I'm done dorking out now...  :geek: )

Now is not the time.

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 03:16 AM

View PostRlyeh, on 31 December 2011 - 09:29 PM, said:

You're not making sense.

The Book of Revelation was written in greek, and so was the symbols I used.
Our numeral system is comes from arabic.

http://www-gap.dcs.s...c_numerals.html


Rlyeh,


The Apostle John wrote what he saw and the translators simply assigned what he wrote to match greek symbols.  

666 and "In the name of Allah" in Arabic are both correct interpretations of the ancient text.  The crossed swords of ALLAH or Islam are depicted by the X while the rest is translated as stated.



Perhaps it does not make sense if you do not see the connection between Mongols and Muslims?


Also this is the name user who had to open another account due to technical issues.


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Posted 15 January 2012 - 03:41 AM

View Postgrendals_bane, on 01 January 2012 - 04:34 AM, said:




There are no more wars now than there has ever been.




According to this reality, the reality of Grace.  Considering you are on this type of site I assume you are aware of the totality of dimensions in which we live.  In another reality this world is engulfed in total destruction from wars we have been spared from having to experience by the Lord and his mercy.



View Postgrendals_bane, on 01 January 2012 - 04:34 AM, said:


What ungodly entities are you referring too? Is Nostradamus one seeing as you believe he predicts the future?



They are discussed often on this site, they interact with all governments and are allowed to control the lower realm by GOD for judgment.  Nostradamus saw what already is, prophecy is not a prediction but simply the result of an already fulfilled reality.



View Postgrendals_bane, on 01 January 2012 - 04:34 AM, said:



Okay, so you have contradicted yourself. First you say they are written the way they are to prevent people altering future events and now you say reading them gives you no advantage or disadvantage apart from righteousness, make your mind up.





If that is what you believe.  Seekers of Truth know the Truth is for them and their advancement is only a forgone conclusion and

not the altering of future events because they seek Truth and not selfish gain.

For those who seek knowledge without the love of Truth bring to themselves condemnation for Truth becomes unlawful knowledge to the prideful and wicked and brings them

to their forgone conclusion of eternal punishment that was already chosen before time in the place of eternity.



A riddle it may seem but even the altering of future events is reflected in the future itself and only the Spirit of God can explain this.  

Ultimately only the Righteous prevail.

Edited by THE INTERPRETER, 15 January 2012 - 03:41 AM.


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Posted 17 January 2012 - 07:40 AM

View PostThe Interpreter1, on 13 December 2011 - 08:28 PM, said:

If you want to know the name of the beast, it is 666.  But only the Spirit can reveal what that means and it is not given to me to do that.


Has this been clarified now?

View PostRaptor Witness, on 03 January 2011 - 06:18 AM, said:

Some people really worry about that number ... or do they, really?  

Not to get too sidetracked here, but let me ask you a quick question.  Do you now buy or sell, without a number
representing your own name, and which is on record with a government?  

At the time this prediction was made, men weren't known by their number. Rather, they would have been
known as so and so from a place or town, where they or their clan lived; such as, Jesus of Nazareth.

The point is not the man per se who once lived, but the frame of time in the future
when he will reappear.

That number is simply a key to the future, which unlocks a [door now open.]


Edited by Raptor Witness, 17 January 2012 - 08:36 AM.

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 08:37 AM

That "doorway" opened when the miracles of the False Prophet appeared.

1) He makes fire come down from Heaven in full view of men.(Hiroshima, etc.)

2) A number will come to represent a man, instead of his name, otherwise you can't buy or sell.(You have to have this number or you can't get a job, you can't get credit, checking account, debit card, etc.)  

3) Men will be ordered to set up a curious idol/image, with the power of speech. In other words, a talking idol, but which is only an image.(It's called a television)

What's really interesting, is that all these miraculous things that we can now plainly see, appeared at approximately the same time, and in the same place on earth. Coincidentally, the state of Israel appeared around the same time, also. Which makes sense, if you know the rest of the story?

Most Christians think that this really bad stuff is going to happen in the future, but a "false prophet" doesn't tell you when something is going to happen, by definition. So why are you waiting for him?

Only a witness can tell you this, because only they have been authorized to take the stand.

Don't worry about the Antichrist, he's not the one to be afraid of. The One to be afraid of, is the guy that told you it would be a repeat of the "Days of Noah," and that men would be made scarcer than pure gold.

Back in the day, it took a lot of refining to make pure gold. IN other words, a lot of fire.


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Posted 17 January 2012 - 09:52 PM

View PostTHE INTERPRETER, on 15 January 2012 - 03:41 AM, said:

According to this reality, the reality of Grace.  Considering you are on this type of site I assume you are aware of the totality of dimensions in which we live.  In another reality this world is engulfed in total destruction from wars we have been spared from having to experience by the Lord and his mercy.

The reality of alternate dimensions like this one is of course unsupported speculation.   When scientists talk about other dimensions, I believe they are referring to sub atomic.  The concept of alternate realities while fun to contemplate and useful for some fiction, has zero evidence to support it as a reality.

THE INTERPRETER said:

They are discussed often on this site, they interact with all governments and are allowed to control the lower realm by GOD for judgment.  Nostradamus saw what already is, prophecy is not a prediction but simply the result of an already fulfilled reality.

Yes ungodly beings are discussed but they are not a reality, just a belief.  Santa Clause has been discussed in many places but that doesn't make him a reality either, though he at least does have Norad tracking his Christmas Eve flight.


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If that is what you believe.  Seekers of Truth know the Truth is for them and their advancement is only a forgone conclusion and

not the altering of future events because they seek Truth and not selfish gain.

For those who seek knowledge without the love of Truth bring to themselves condemnation for Truth becomes unlawful knowledge to the prideful and wicked and brings them

to their forgone conclusion of eternal punishment that was already chosen before time in the place of eternity.

Truth is truth for all not just those who seek it.  It is fallacy to believe otherwise.

It is also a fallacy, a twisted fallacy at that to believe that somehow truth can become unlawful knowledge just because one seeks knowledge without a love of Truth.

The sheer odds of a civilization advancing, developing space travel, deciding to search our little corner of the galaxy, arriving at just the right time and actually helping us is so huge, you would have a greater chance of winning several lotteries in a single year. - SensibleLogic

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 05:06 AM

View PostSensible Logic, on 17 January 2012 - 09:52 PM, said:



Truth is truth for all not just those who seek it.  It is fallacy to believe otherwise.

It is also a fallacy, a twisted fallacy at that to believe that somehow truth can become unlawful knowledge just because one seeks knowledge without a love of Truth.


It is written in the word of the Most Holy Father that for those who reject Truth, it were better that they had never been born.

Would you dare play with the power of God?


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Posted 20 January 2012 - 05:15 AM

View PostRaptor Witness, on 17 January 2012 - 08:37 AM, said:



Don't worry about the Antichrist, he's not the one to be afraid of. The One to be afraid of, is the guy that told you it would be a repeat of the "Days of Noah," and that men would be made scarcer than pure gold.






Raptor Witness,



Wisdom comes with the fear of God and by keeping his word we do show that reverential fear.  Christ himself did inform his people of Israel to flee to the mountains at the

appearance of the Great Abomination.




The purpose of this prophecy is not to bring fear upon men but to preserve life and give hope to the people of the True Light.

If the man of sin comes soon, the Lamb of God comes sooner.

Edited by THE INTERPRETER, 20 January 2012 - 05:16 AM.


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Posted 20 January 2012 - 07:54 AM

View PostTHE INTERPRETER, on 20 January 2012 - 05:15 AM, said:

Raptor Witness,
Christ himself did inform his people of Israel to flee to the mountains at the

appearance of the Great Abomination.

To continue your reference in Holy Scripture ... "If you are on the roof of your house, don't go inside to get anything. If you are out in the field, don't go back for your coat?"

What do all these things have in common?  Mountains, rooftops, don't delay for a moment ...?

In other words, when you see the Abomination, run for your lives and get up high very fast.

Why would getting up high help save you?  Why is He recommending that you get up high very fast?

The Abomination you seek has already occurred, you just couldn't see it.  So it's not the "appearance" that causes the desolation.  It's when a witness takes the stand and says ... "there it is." Only then does the desolation occur, because only then is the veil of deception lifted so that you can see it. That's why the Bible teaches "when you see ...."

Desolation is a very permanent thing. It means people can't live in a place anymore for some reason. So you should not be surprised that both of these appeared this year. 1) The "Abomination" was identified by a witness.  2) It was specifically linked to the false "Trinity," or the first atomic test. 3) The Desolation which appeared this year, was coincidentally the target of that original "Abomination" called "Trinity."

This is just a shadow of what is to come, because "like the days of Noah," is a pretty serious forecast. He's telling you a lot in that statement right there.

Is it any wonder, that the same witness who pointed out to you what the Abomination is, [only this year,] also pointed to what was about to happen in Japan, only three days in advance?

What are the odds that a person would appear here, saying what the Abomination is, and then forecasting a desolation, where getting up high makes a lot of sense?

Put two and two together, and you have what you're looking for, but don't tell anyone smart enough to figure it out.

Remember, in only three days ... the Latin will happen.

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Incipio = present active "I begin"

Divello = present active "I tear apart"



Edited by Raptor Witness, 20 January 2012 - 08:51 AM.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 07:51 AM

AMEN.


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 04:44 AM

Nostradamus is cool i like reading his quadtrains.


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 05:24 AM

Nostradamus and the book of Revelations. Really? Please go on.

Oh yeah, Raptor Witness, you said "Remember, in only three days ... the Latin will happen." That was three days ago. So what's happened?


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Posted 25 January 2013 - 10:15 AM

A long speech about religion, chaos always ensues. We tried this in my social studies class, all we came up with was war sucks.

"A picture is worth a thousand words, or so they say, so if it is; then here are a thousand and thirty two words to convince you of whatever I need to,"
Now, if you will, imagine a subject appropriate image here...




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