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[pallidin]

Likely in reference to the fact that this is highly suspected, but not fully confirmed(at least publicly)

Could be nothing more than them moving those weapons farther away from those whom might steal them.
Hard to say at this point. Guess we'll find-out soon enough.

[lightly]

lightly, on 06 December 2012 - 07:30 AM, said:

another invisible man report

and then, on 06 December 2012 - 12:31 PM, said:

What does this mean?

The   invisible man  is the un- named   "Senior U.S. Official"   who  "told Fox News" . Why can't we know this shadowy figure's name?????? And WHO the H is "Fox News" ? Not only don't we get the name of the official ,  we also don't get the name of the fox news person .   I like to know WHO is telling us these things.
   It makes me suspicious of the validity of any report from Un named Officials, or  sources,  or other ends of horses.


     I've noticed lately,  that sometimes the truth isn't even true!
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Edited by lightly, 07 December 2012 - 01:42 AM.

[wittyusernamefailed]

Was not that long ago that Colin Powell ( who was at the time a fairly respected official) was telling the U.S., the U.N. and the world at large that Saddam has "weapons of masss destruction" and that if we didn;t go in there and get them they would be used by Al queda and such. Needless to say we still have not found any.  So to simply believe the gov this time and be all gung-ho to go in to Syria would be rather foolish. IF Assad in fact does use the amount of Chem weapons he does have then fine we as the U.N> as a who;e should deal with him and a threat to the world; but there is no reason for the U.S. to have to be the cowboy in this situation.

[coolguy]

Its time to bomb syria.

[pallidin]

coolguy, on 07 December 2012 - 05:20 AM, said:

Its time to bomb syria.

I think their own country is doing that well enough alone.

[acidhead]

coolguy, on 07 December 2012 - 05:20 AM, said:

Its time to bomb syria.

Whatcha got to bomb it with?

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lightly, on 07 December 2012 - 01:25 AM, said:

lightly, on 06 December 2012 - 07:30 AM, said:

another invisible man report





The   invisible man  is the un- named   "Senior U.S. Official"   who  "told Fox News" . Why can't we know this shadowy figure's name?????? And WHO the H is "Fox News" ? Not only don't we get the name of the official ,  we also don't get the name of the fox news person .   I like to know WHO is telling us these things.
   It makes me suspicious of the validity of any report from Un named Officials, or  sources,  or other ends of horses.


I've noticed lately,  that sometimes the truth isn't even true!
*

I see, thanks for explaining the reference.  If these weapons get used maybe the invisible man will come forward to claim his credit for warning us.  And if, God forbid, some of this stuff got used at a superbowl game or a Christmas Eve shopping mall we can just say that CIA pulled a false flag also..that how it goes?  I understand the cynicism and believe some of it is a healthy balance but the world has known about Assad's chem weapons program from multiple sources for decades.  And for the record - I predict that if he isn't deposed quickly then we will soon get all the proof anyone would ever desire - in high def.  As to sending in US troops - I have consistently been against it and still am.  THIS stuff is so "special" that it gets it's own bases to be stored at and that's a good thing militarily.  It means it can be easily, accurately targeted from the air and destroyed by thermobaric bombardment.  No civilian casualties at all unless the stuff isn't properly burned by the weapons.  Hopefully if there are any civilians living close buy they will run when the bombs start falling.

[docyabut2]

Sadam did have gas weapons,he killed thousand of people with them. The US gave a month warning before going in, plenty of time to get them out of country. The US  knows that Assad is now loading these weapons getting ready to use them and may give them to some terrorist groups, that what Hillery is saying.All Obama had said so far to Syria, if you use them you will pay the conquences..Apparently Obama is going on vacation and is not concern about the country going over the fistal cliff or Syria.

[lightly]

and then, on 07 December 2012 - 09:22 AM, said:

I see, thanks for explaining the reference.  If these weapons get used maybe the invisible man will come forward to claim his credit for warning us.  And if, God forbid, some of this stuff got used at a superbowl game or a Christmas Eve shopping mall we can just say that CIA pulled a false flag also..that how it goes?  I understand the cynicism and believe some of it is a healthy balance but the world has known about Assad's chem weapons program from multiple sources for decades.  And for the record - I predict that if he isn't deposed quickly then we will soon get all the proof anyone would ever desire - in high def.  As to sending in US troops - I have consistently been against it and still am.  THIS stuff is so "special" that it gets it's own bases to be stored at and that's a good thing militarily.  It means it can be easily, accurately targeted from the air and destroyed by thermobaric bombardment.  No civilian casualties at all unless the stuff isn't properly burned by the weapons.  Hopefully if there are any civilians living close buy they will run when the bombs start falling.

  ... official sources     (lightly)  have no further comment at this time.  

[Stellar]

pallidin, on 06 December 2012 - 08:53 PM, said:

Likely in reference to the fact that this is highly suspected, but not fully confirmed(at least publicly)

Could be nothing more than them moving those weapons farther away from those whom might steal them.
Hard to say at this point. Guess we'll find-out soon enough.

That makes no sense. You don't combine the chemicals, essentially activating them, to move them. I do not believe any military commander would be stupid enough to do that.

[Coffey]

Most likely propaganda.

Raptor Witness, on 06 December 2012 - 03:02 AM, said:

It's hard not to admire the U.S. military at a time like this, because the potential for good here is great.

There may be a chance to change the course of history at this juncture, but I would not wade in without the Russians. There's no reason that Putin can't add "hero" to his resume.

My strong sense is that Panetta and Hillary are negatives here, and I'm a big fan of hers.  This calls for a special knight on the chess board, possibly a European statesman with some past ties to Syria's wellbeing.

What an Ironic video. "I saved the world today and it shows all the destruction. These children in these videos are mostly from OUR bombs.

There is no heroes in these modern wars, just people doing the wrong thing, but thinking it's the right thing.

If the US/UK military etc are heroes then why do we not save the innocent people in Africa who want to be saved? They are treated far worse than people in they Middle East. Oh it's because it's not part of the governments agenda that's why.

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Coffey, on 07 December 2012 - 01:17 PM, said:

Most likely propaganda.




What an Ironic video. "I saved the world today and it shows all the destruction. These children in these videos are mostly from OUR bombs.

There is no heroes in these modern wars, just people doing the wrong thing, but thinking it's the right thing.

If the US/UK military etc are heroes then why do we not save the innocent people in Africa who want to be saved? They are treated far worse than people in they Middle East. Oh it's because it's not part of the governments agenda that's why.

Like, for example, trying to feed the starving and provide AIDS drugs?  Last I checked America was doing a bit of that.... and you might remember a place called Somalia in the 90's.

[OverSword]

Civil war.  Let them sort it out.  There is no reason to go there.  Yeah, I wish we could save everone in the world from themselves too, but you can't.  And you shouldn't.

and then, on 07 December 2012 - 03:25 PM, said:

Like, for example, trying to feed the starving and provide AIDS drugs?  Last I checked America was doing a bit of that.... and you might remember a place called Somalia in the 90's.

Yeah, and how did that whole Somalia thing work out for you?  And if you had a clue as to how we help them by giving them loans through the IMF, and how exactly all of that works you would see it's all part of a debt slavery scam.  Not that there aren't plenty of private American charities doing great works in Africa but the government is not one of them.

Edited by OverSword, 07 December 2012 - 04:02 PM.

[Coffey]

and then, on 07 December 2012 - 03:25 PM, said:

Like, for example, trying to feed the starving and provide AIDS drugs?  Last I checked America was doing a bit of that.... and you might remember a place called Somalia in the 90's.

When does the US government do this, it's charities etc that do that.

Also not surprised they give Aids aid. It was the US part of Bayer pharmaceuticals that spread Aids in Africa by selling HIV contaminated drugs there. And yes they did know they where HIV contaminated because Bayer had already been caught in the US and Europe for it and all that happened was that they were not allowed to sell those drugs again in the US or Europe but they carried on selling them in Africa.


For some reason not a lot of people know about this and it's one of the worst things in our "modern" history. This company carries on being the leading pharmaceutical supplier in the world. They even supply most of the drugs you can buy off the shelf. (like Rennie's etc)

Edited by Coffey, 07 December 2012 - 04:06 PM.

[Tutankhaten-pasheri]

It is not totally inconceivable that Russia could take control of such weapon stocks. It would be difficult and need nerves of steel and commonsense and at least some co-operation from Syrian rebels. Anybody noticed any unusual troop movements out of Ryazan recently....