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#16    OverSword

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 07:01 PM

Hasn't anyone else noticed that everyone who gets tested for gluten alergies these days turns out to be to be allergic?

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 07:23 PM

View PostOverSword, on 04 September 2012 - 07:01 PM, said:

Hasn't anyone else noticed that everyone who gets tested for gluten alergies these days turns out to be to be allergic?

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That's because of early exposure to it,and the fact chances are good,their parents have issues already .
It may be carried over in utero at this point.

Food from even three generations ago,was better quality ,than what we have now.
Look at any aisle in the supermarket.
Look at the ingredients in cereal,bread,cookies and baked goods ....
And realize all of this contains massively over processed stuff,with all kinds of sugars and preservatives used in the processing.
3 generations ago,people ate real food .
2 generations ago,the processed stuff began creeping in .
Then include stuff like hormones and antibiotics and extra poisons,in all animal feeds,and injected into animals that end up on the table.

This would include eggs,all dairy ,all poultry and eats.
Then include all the processing and additives in dairy .

This isnt even including ,gmos and pesticides on our produce.,or how sick most animals are,when slaughtered

The immune systems ,of anyone born within the last generation,ie ,aged 25 and younger,are drastically compromised.
Everyone older,is also eating all this crap,but has a slightly better immune system,but also has massive allergen exposure .
This is why ,so many more people are allergic.
They grow up eating this,with no real foods .

Think of an average meal for a kid.
They eat processed cereal,with ultra pasteurized milk,and processed white sugar in it.
Lunch at school is from a company the school uses,to get it cheaper,and its all processed crap,as pink slime clearly demonstrated.Then mom is tired,and buys chicken mcnuggets and French fries for dinner.
Do you have any idea what's in mcnuggets?
Ishowed one of my friends ,and, she hasnt given her kids mcnuggets since.
But how common is this scenario
What real food did they eat ? And this goes on 5 days a week ?
,Today's kids,will probably have the highest cancers rates ever seen in history .

All peeps under 25,will probably test positive for wheat and dairy intollerance ,in this country ,because of what they eat,from the moment they're off mothers milk ,but all her antibiodies from eating this garbage,end up where ?
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 07:34 PM

Oops,double post,sorry

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 08:02 PM

I switch to whole wheat and cut out most sugars.  I make my own bread so I know what is in it.   I think people eat way too much flour and sugar. Anything white is really loaded with too many carbs. White sugar, flour and potatoes should be eaten sparingly or not at all. Everything in moderation. You need some carbs for energy, you don't want to go carb free.  Carbs should be taken with complex carbs.  Fruit, beans, and vegetables.   You will lose weight and feel better. I lost 90lbs doing that. :P

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 09:40 PM

mind you, three geneations ago people were dropping dead from TB ( was it TB or was it something else?) in "real milk", so not all "real fods" are 100% safe either.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 11:31 PM

About 3weeks ago I cut all, and I do mean ALL sugar out of my diet, so that includes fruit and fruit juices, and I also cut all dairy products out too. I haven't cut wheat out entirely because that(for me anyway), is quite difficult, but I now eat less than half the wheat I used to. I feel great, better than I've felt for a couple of decades, maybe more. The scales tell me I've lost 4lbs but I feel as if I've lost a stone. All the stiffness and bloating has gone, and all the little niggling pains too. My mood is good too(I've suffered from depression for years), and I have noticeably more energy.

I agree with Dr.Davis: what we call 'food' these days really isn't, in the sense that there is virtually no nutritional value in most of it. It just adds stress to all our internal organs as they struggle to process and eliminate it, whilst gaining nothing of value from it.

Oh, I meant to say that what has been a revelation to me while on this new diet, is that I never feel hungry. I think the reason why most dieters fail in their aim to lose weight, is that they have a continuous battle to resist foods. They're constantly hungry so they're constantly fighting the urge to eat. That can't be kept up for more than a few days.

Lots of RAW organic food is best, I think.

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 01:23 AM

View PostSimbi Laveau, on 04 September 2012 - 09:47 AM, said:

Amen sista !
Yes ,if I do wheat items ,has to be organic,and I do it rarely .
I have celiac disease,but I occ cheat ,but the key words here are MODERN WHEAT .
How its so over processed today .
Wheat ,corn ,soy and sugars,in the modern diet,is what is killing us.

One of my acupuncture teachers went to vietnam for six weeks one year.
They don't use wheat at all there. She came back 20 pounds lighter,and felt 1000 times better ,from just eating a veitnamese diet ,which even includes fried foods,just no wheat.
She told anyone who would listen .
Don't eat wheat ,end of story .

Yes thank you, I am talking about modern wheat that has been genetically modified to produce bigger yields and now it has something called gliadin in it because it was modified.  Organically grown, it still doesn't matter because they are using a modified seed so same result.

Even if its whole wheat never been bleached it still has it in it.  Have to watch the whole wheat breads and such because they put gluten in it.


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Posted 05 September 2012 - 01:57 AM

View PostHilander, on 05 September 2012 - 01:23 AM, said:

  Have to watch the whole wheat breads and such because they put gluten in it.

The high level of gluten in modern wheat has been bred into it to stop loaves from being crumbly ........ it is (almost) literally 'glue'! It sticks in the gaps between the villii(villae?) in the intestine.

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 05:16 AM

Interesting.

However, in Skyrim wheat heals me. :lol:


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Posted 05 September 2012 - 08:35 AM

View PostKing Fluffs, on 05 September 2012 - 05:16 AM, said:

Interesting.

However, in Skyrim wheat heals me. :lol:

It healed me after I took an arrow to the knee...

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 02:36 PM

Modern wheat does not have gliadin in it because it's a new thing. Gliadin has always been one of the components with gluten. It is in ancient wheat too.
How much gliadin and gluten are in a wheat does depend on the class and variety- the most common bread wheats, hard red spring and winter wheats have a higher protein, and more gluten and yep gliadin. Durum- pasta wheat, has less than bread wheats. Einkorn has even less than durum.

A nice study of ancient durum wheats and a-Gliadin- http://www.tswj.com/2012/837416/
A nice paper on gluten sensitivity that discusses gliadin- http://kalishresearc...m/a_gluten.html
In 1966 Fred E Pittman and Rodney J Pollitt did a study, Studies of jejunal mucosal digestion of peptic-tryptic digests of wheat protein in coeliac disease- they mention gliadin as well. It's a PDF download so I don't have a link for it.

The discussion and clinicals on gliadin might only be 50 years old or so, but it certainly is not a new introduction to wheat. It for sure isn't something that is the result of GMO's. Genetically engineered really isn't the same thing as genetically modified when it comes to plants.


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Posted 05 September 2012 - 02:48 PM

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 03:17 PM

View PostJunior Chubb, on 05 September 2012 - 08:35 AM, said:

It healed me after I took an arrow to the knee...

Them darn arrows...
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 03:47 PM

I try not to eat a lot of bread, sugar,etc. because I'm diabetic. I try to eat more veggies,etc. I do eat some fruit because it's good for you.And I eat fat free dairy,though sometimes I forget about the pint of milk in the fridge and wind up throwing it out. because i didn't drink it. I'm going to order some heirloom seeds which are not GMOs from Baker Creek Farms and grow my own veggies.You can get bread from rice and tapioca in the stores, but  they are expensive.I have seen natural grains ground for flour in the stores, but as far as wheat goes, not sure on that score. Seems like everything is going to kill you. Trying to stay away from sodas and drink more tea,green or a mix of black and green.Would start my own little farm if I could, though the animals might wind up more like pets than anything.No antibiotics for them in their feed,just good natural food and such.They keep monkeying around with our food.I think for some people when they worked on having wheat or other crops produce bigger yields,it wasn';t all about money, but trying to help feed hungery people in the world.But some where along the line they went overboard. Also, all those chemicals and preservetives don't help either.But yes, my parents ate a better diet than we do now, because while there were canned veggies, fish and other processed foods, the majority of people made their dinner from scratch with  fresh meat and vegetables, and didn't eat alot of snacks. They had popcorn, cheese and crackers,smoked oysters and other things to much on, not like what we have today.


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Posted 05 September 2012 - 10:23 PM

How strange. My diet consists mostly of white bread, toast, juice, pizza, beer and milk, at least 5 days a week and I just had a bit of a cold 1 day the last 2 and half years. I rarely eat what people call "healthy" food, and I party quite hard on the and been doing so the last 10 years... how do you explain that? People blame sugars, karbonhydrates, fat, whatever... From my experience, what really matters when it comes to your physical health has less to do with what you put in your mouth but how much.... the body isn't built to handle a royal buffet of everything you ever want every day. Try starve yourself a bit, eat 1 small meal of your choice once per day instead of 3-4 supersized meals then feast on what you enjoy most once in a while....
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