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[Teslasparkgap]

The Nazis also had a lizard king god.
Where have we heard about the lizard problems.
Like a year ago at least till the popularity wore down.

[OldTimeRadio]

What is this group photograph supposed to have to do with orgies?

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Teslasparkgap, on 08 November 2009 - 05:21 AM, said:

The Nazis also had a lizard king god.

     This one's entirely new to me. So can you please reveal more?

[Paracelse]

Melioth, on 20 February 2009 - 05:51 PM, said:

<!--quoteo(post=2754643:date=Feb 18 2009, 05:32 PM:name=Scarecrow JacK)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarecrow JacK @ Feb 18 2009, 05:32 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2754643"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I didn't say Occult meant satanic, occult practices may be incorporated within Satanism however. Occult means hidden knowledge and has no specific association to any religion/belief system.

What is <i>true witchcraft</i> might I ask? By not saying what it is means your either hiding something so fantastic that it cannot be known (Why bother suggesting you know 'the truth' and not willing to share) or that your a dork who feels superior in having some occult practises that defy common knowledge. It also makes your claim lack any strength whatsoever by not supplying any reasoning for such an idea so why bother posting such a comment?

I just get annoyed at those who lead on that they know secret secret information and tell all 'I have a secret, but I'm not telling you!' Why bother champ seriously? Makes you look like a ****** with too much time on your hands.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Hey you're the ****** I'm just a ******  with power. If I tell you, you and/or other people would abuse it. I can't have that. So instead of being so curious maybe you should aknowledge that I know something that you don't. And don't try to make yourself sound smart by putting "complex" words. You probably needed to look up most of them. And also that's comingfrom an anime freak. They always think they are superior. If you have a secret and you tell it to someone then it's not a secret. Have a nice day. <img src="http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/original.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="original.gif" />

When One does know, he doesn't say.. those who claims knowing without revealing under the specter of secrecy are liars...

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Helen of Annoy, on 24 March 2009 - 05:57 PM, said:

Another one… *sigh*

Why is it impossible for average person to note that Himmler and Hitler were two different guys?

As for the Himmler/Göbels relations, they hated each other because both saw themselves as most important after Hitler. Göbels was not disgusted or something with SS, he was simply jealous because this “gang of thugs” was not under his control. Thugs they were, but slightly more organized and influential than a gang.
In fact, nobody had more power in Reich, because they were not part of Wehrmacht, their head Himmler answered directly and only to Hitler. Which got more complicated and interesting when things started to fell apart but...  

Why am I wasting my time here?

Ah, yes.
The documentary from the OP is cheap attempt to use once again one extremely ugly but also extremely interesting period in history, without saying anything new, confirmed or important.
  
Wewelsburg was Himmler’s playground, and from everything I learned about it so far, it was a temple of new religion, partially based on old belief and partially on Himmler’s own fantasies. I don’t think it was satanic, though, unless pagan belief and egomania is satanic. Maybe we would know more about it if it wasn’t blown up and if it wasn’t so popular among important figures of SS to put a bullet in their head by the end of the war.

Hitler wasn’t Satanist either. The most plausible story (in my opinion, of course) is this: he decided to keep Christianity for a while, until people are ready to switch to new religion, that used old religion and old folk belief as well as new stuff, all mixed up together with Hitler as some sort of crossbreed between christian-like saviour and merge of few old gods.
For example, children in orphanages recited prayer to Hitler, not to Christian god.

Satanist by default has to acknowledge existence of Christian god in order to make Satan, fallen angel, existent in his mind. How can you have angel that rebelled against Yahweh if you don’t believe in Yahweh in the first place?
So if you have people who don’t believe middle-eastern god is in charge of this world, then you don’t have Satanists. End of story – in my opinion.
Why is this important anyway? It’s terminology, dependable of the personal beliefs of spectator, it doesn’t change or explain events.


Disclaimer: no, I don’t defend the ****ers, I just happen to be interested in that particular historical period.

Excellent and so true.  Hitler was however a follower of Guido von List

[Openminded.Ulsterman]

I believe this is a load of old nonsense that hitler was anyting to do with these organisations, groups like the Thule society and free masons were closed down by the anti-masonic legislation in early 1935, there is solid evidence that whatever links the early Nazi party had to thule society ie through karl harrer were severed as early as 1920 and the society was dissolved five years later in 1925, The followers of the Thule Society were, by one of the founding members own admission,  little interested in occultist theories, instead they were interested in racism and combating Jews and Communists, as for the vril this was found in a science fiction book called The Coming Race which was published in late 1871 the book described the vril or vril-ya as an aryan race which were descendents of Atlantis, this is very similar to what J.R.R Tolkien used in his books for the peoples of Rohan and Gondor both Aryan races descended from Númenor this is the Atlantis of the lord of the rings. But anyway the fact that hitler was anything to do with secret societys is total nonsense.

[Nims]

I do wish people would quit picking on the Masons.  There are Masons in my family and they are perfectly harmless.

Raising money for charitable causes- building a float for the local Christmas parade- yeah that's really wicked

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Nims, on 05 July 2010 - 08:24 PM, said:

I do wish people would quit picking on the Masons.  There are Masons in my family and they are perfectly harmless.

     Nims, what you say is certainly true for Canada, the United States and Britain.

     My late Dad's father, brother and uncle were all Freemasons in Northern Kentucky (Greater Cincinnati, Ohio) and I've never met finer people.

     But that's unfortunately NOT true for many Masonic institutions in mainland Europe, Asia and South America, which have been stirring every revolutionary pot for the past 200 years.

[Openminded.Ulsterman]

O yes I fully agree I wasn't criticising Freemasons I simply stated that under an act in Germany in 1935 the Masonic order was outlawed, my grandfather was a freemason an I hope soon That I will be a member of the Masonic order myself, I believe Freemasons are upstanding members of society.