Still Waters Posted December 12, 2012 #1 Share Posted December 12, 2012 The psychological phenomenon that causes some people to see or hear a vague or random image or sound as something significant is known as pareidolia (par-i-DOH-lee-a). There are a number of theories as to the cause of this phenomenon. Experts say pareidolia provides a psychological determination for many delusions that involve the senses. They believe pareidolia could be behind numerous sightings of UFOs, Elvis and the Loch Ness Monster and the hearing of disturbing messages on records when they are played backwards. Pareidolia often has religious overtones. A study in Finland found that people who are religious or believe strongly in the supernatural are more likely to see faces in lifeless objects and landscapes. http://www.livescien...pareidolia.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarakore Posted December 12, 2012 #2 Share Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) I always see faces in lifeless objects and landscapes. Now I figured out that depending on my mood, the shapes (since I see more than faces) will change, from happy faces or comedic, to more sinister looking ones. Edited December 12, 2012 by I believe you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangepeaceful79 Posted December 12, 2012 #3 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Love this article. Thanks, Still Waters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDesiato Posted December 13, 2012 #4 Share Posted December 13, 2012 It's the supernatural gateway drug to subjective verification. Funny you never hear about a piece of toast with the image of Zack Galifanakis. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Render Posted December 13, 2012 #5 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Don't forget apophenia, where a lot of UM members seem to be acquainted with. Wether or not they realise it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EllJay Posted December 13, 2012 #6 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Pareidolia is often used as a blanket excuse to disregard most of sightings of paranormal nature. Sure, trying to interpret shadows in a photograph as faces etc is many time pareidolia, but BS excuses that all UFO sightings is pareidolia is laughable and is one of the retreat/comfort-zone for skeptics to throw anything they dont like. A study in Finland found that people who are religious or believe strongly in the supernatural are more likely to see faces in lifeless objects and landscapes. The reverse thing was done on skeptics with pictures that actually held a real object in it but it was fuzzed out. The control group saw it but the outspoken skeptics missed it. They even missed obvious images in clouds. I dont know if it is poor pattern recognition or if it is a lack of imagination. Pattern recognition is surely a survival trait and being able to put pieces together quickly to decide if flight or fight is the right action has saved us more times than the dude who stood still and said- "I dont see anything, I'm skeptical about all this so I'm gonna stay until it is beyond a doubt obvious that there is a lion in the grass" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EllJay Posted December 13, 2012 #7 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Here are a few examples of paradolia images though>>> The "girl" is the end-knob of a handlebar of a stairway in a burning building. This one was the sun shining through a porthole on the wall and the irregularities in the bricks makes the image of a face>> Or this one, a Loch Ness monster... Until you see that it is a Labrador swimming with a stick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDesiato Posted December 13, 2012 #8 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Pareidolia is often used as a blanket excuse to disregard most of sightings of paranormal nature.Sure, trying to interpret shadows in a photograph as faces etc is many time pareidolia, but BS excuses that all UFO sightings is pareidolia is laughable and is one of the retreat/comfort-zone for skeptics to throw anything they dont like. The reverse thing was done on skeptics with pictures that actually held a real object in it but it was fuzzed out. The control group saw it but the outspoken skeptics missed it. They even missed obvious images in clouds. I dont know if it is poor pattern recognition or if it is a lack of imagination. Pattern recognition is surely a survival trait and being able to put pieces together quickly to decide if flight or fight is the right action has saved us more times than the dude who stood still and said- "I dont see anything, I'm skeptical about all this so I'm gonna stay until it is beyond a doubt obvious that there is a lion in the grass" I would appreciate a link to that study. What did the "control group" consist of that differentiated them from skeptics. Do you mean they were believers? Please provide the link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EllJay Posted December 13, 2012 #9 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I would appreciate a link to that study. What did the "control group" consist of that differentiated them from skeptics. Do you mean they were believers? Please provide the link Yeah, I will look for it. I'm interested to read it myself again, it was a long time ago. If anyone else here remember it, please post it. The control group, I believe, was a mix of "ordinary" people, both believers, indifferent and curious people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDesiato Posted December 13, 2012 #10 Share Posted December 13, 2012 In a controlled study, I think it would make more sense to make the pictures the control factor, otherwise how can a base line be established? Here's a link to a blog that mentions what appears to to be the same study as the OP: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CDIQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.randi.org%2Fsite%2Findex.php%2Fswift-blog%2F1910-innoculated-against-illusion-skeptics-and-face-pareidolia.html&ei=X07KUOO3PKSO0QHKz4HgBQ&usg=AFQjCNEmgPTYltVh3ISsk_zUPoCT9sigbg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangepeaceful79 Posted December 15, 2012 #11 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Don't forget apophenia, where a lot of UM members seem to be acquainted with. Wether or not they realise it. UM would have a hard time existing without Pareidolia, Apophenia, and Confirmation Bias. Most tales of the paranormal wouldn't exist without these concepts. If our senses and brains were calibrated to observe, record, and interpret the world around us exactly as it occurs there would be few accounts of paranormal ANYTHING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendy Demon Posted December 15, 2012 #12 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I do not mean to sound ignorant but isn't apophenia and pareidolia the same thing? Seeing images in otherwise random and meaningless patterns? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDesiato Posted December 16, 2012 #13 Share Posted December 16, 2012 (edited) I do not mean to sound ignorant but isn't apophenia and pareidolia the same thing? Seeing images in otherwise random and meaningless patterns? Apophenia is not just seeing in image but seeing a story. The word is similar to epiphany. From 'Skeptic's Dictionary': "In contrast to epiphany, however, apophany does not provide insight into the true nature of reality or its interconnectedness, but is a "process of repetitively and monotonously experiencing abnormal meanings in the entire surrounding experiential field" which are entirely self-referential, solipsistic and paranoid: "being observed, spoken about, the object of eavesdropping, followed by strangers” (Conrad K, Gestaltanalyse und Daseinsanalytik. Nervenarzt 1959;30:405-410)." http://skepdic.com/apophenia.html Edited December 16, 2012 by HDesiato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Render Posted December 17, 2012 #14 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I do not mean to sound ignorant but isn't apophenia and pareidolia the same thing? Seeing images in otherwise random and meaningless patterns? Pareidolia is seeing faces in places there aren't Apophenia is seeing patterns where there are not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrant lizard Posted December 17, 2012 #15 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Here are a few examples of paradolia images though>>> The "girl" is the end-knob of a handlebar of a stairway in a burning building. This one was the sun shining through a porthole on the wall and the irregularities in the bricks makes the image of a face>> Or this one, a Loch Ness monster... Until you see that it is a Labrador swimming with a stick My brain refuses not to see faces in the top two.Nice pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammiecue Posted July 14, 2014 #16 Share Posted July 14, 2014 I have been trying to figure out all my life why I see faces in objects such as tile, clouds, trees, grass, etc... For the longest time I thought that I might have some sort of disorder. On any given day, I see 10-20 faces in objects sometimes more. I am not looking for faces they just pop out at me. I did search the net and found out that this phenomenon is called pareidolia...... I still haven't figured why I see many faces (daily)and not everybody does.... What causes this phenomenon???? I would really love an answer that I understand. This use to be an occasional thing but for the last several years the images I see have gone from once in a while to multiple times daily? Thanks in advance for some feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Ford Posted July 14, 2014 #17 Share Posted July 14, 2014 I have been trying to figure out all my life why I see faces in objects such as tile, clouds, trees, grass, etc... For the longest time I thought that I might have some sort of disorder. On any given day, I see 10-20 faces in objects sometimes more. I am not looking for faces they just pop out at me. I did search the net and found out that this phenomenon is called pareidolia...... I still haven't figured why I see many faces (daily)and not everybody does.... What causes this phenomenon???? I would really love an answer that I understand. This use to be an occasional thing but for the last several years the images I see have gone from once in a while to multiple times daily? Thanks in advance for some feedback. Maybe bad eyesight. If you don't have 20/20 vision you can't see what is exactly there and then your mind is filling in the blanks. Maybe get an eye test and see if you need glasses. Worth a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted July 14, 2014 #18 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Here are a few examples of paradolia images though>>> The "girl" is the end-knob of a handlebar of a stairway in a burning building. I thought this one was supposed to be a hoax instead of pareilolia? As in an image of a girl from a 1922 postcard put into the 1995 photo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swoodall Posted October 16, 2014 #19 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I see faces in clouds and other things every day. I just started a facebook page about it with lots of photos I have taken ... https://www.facebook.com/groups/600377633407123/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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