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#91    Asteroth

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Posted 05 August 2008 - 10:54 AM

I have only read the first post, but that's a load of crap. If it's a chemical reaction that created any dark spots, then it aren't shadows and the legend is still bs.


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Posted 05 August 2008 - 01:31 PM

The shadows can talk but can you listen?


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Posted 05 August 2008 - 01:31 PM

Drego on Aug 5 2008, 03:32 AM, said:

This kind of statement worries me just as much (if not more so) as Devildogpratt's. What about victims of harsh dictatorships and corrupt totalitarian governments? Would you call the millions killed by Nazi Germany traitors? Did they also deserve what they got?


Dictatorships, corrupt totalitarian governments and Nazi Germany all wished harm to their country as well.  The government doesn't make the country, it’s the people that do.  If a country's government is corrupt it is the citizen’s responsibility to stand up to them.    

But now I digress, we should be staying on topic here about the shadows of Hiroshima.




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Posted 05 August 2008 - 01:36 PM

Sno on Aug 4 2008, 08:31 PM, said:

Anyone who wishes harm to their country, is in my eyes a traitor, and deserves to be dragged through the streets and hung by their neck for all to see.


What if your country does something totally unethical?  I bet lots of Germans hoped the Nazis would lose.  Obviously, you have the option of moving but what if you want to change your country instead of leaving it?  Don't get me wrong-- I was disgusted by the posts criticizing our troops too.  But I've been wondering about the ethics of loving your country a lot lately.

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Before they bombed Hiroshima they dropped pamphlets warning the citizens to stay indoors.  Not that it would have done any good.  The bombers were delayed several hours due to weather conditions so the citizens assumed the bombing raid had been avoided and went back out on the streets.


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Ah, I see that you answered my question while I was in the process of typing it.

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Posted 06 August 2008 - 01:47 AM

what happened at Hiroshima was tragic and lets hope nothing like that happen again, yes the shadows are true

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Posted 06 August 2008 - 02:43 AM

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these shadows on the bridge are of people

Edited by MagikGirl, 06 August 2008 - 02:45 AM.

as the seasons come and go, here's something you might like to know.  There are fairies everywhere:  under bushes, in the air, playing games just like you play, singing through their busy day.  So listen, touch, and look around - in the air and on the ground.  And if you watch all nature's things, you might just see a fairy's wing.  ~Author Unknown

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Posted 07 August 2008 - 06:15 PM

As horrible as this is, it's still pretty cool.


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Posted 22 February 2010 - 04:08 AM

View PostNirmalaMaya, on 02 August 2005 - 11:18 AM, said:

This is going to be kind of hard to explain.
When I was in the 5th or 6th grade we had a substitute teacher. A very animate man with long hair, very effeminate. But we all loved him and enjoyed having him as our sub!

Anyhow, he told us a story once during our history lesson. He said he had visited the city of Hiroshima (or what was Hiroshima?) and that the shadows of the people remained as they were at the very moment the bomb hit. The shadows still existed, and hadnt moved.

Im not sure if this is an urban legend, true, or just some story he made up. Ive tried researching it, but cant find much.

Any help?

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I belaive this is true, it is science, not magic or anything.

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 01:33 AM

I think that this is the third time which this post has been necro-ed! I remember reading it around the second time, and thinking that it was very creepy.

Anyway, from Richard Seaman...

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"Shadows" were left behind where objects shielded a surface from the heat.
Where this happened, the shadow is the original color of the surface, and the area outside the shadow has been turned to a different color by the intense temperatures.
By measuring the angles of the shadows it was possible to establish the exact location of the explosion.    
Some shadows were cast by people caught by the explosion.
The museum has this section of a bank wall and steps which illustrates this.   The circular grey patch on the steps is a shadow formed by a woman who was sitting there waiting for the bank to open for business.

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 08:55 AM

Its a sad and scary thing, those shadows, its nice to think that somthing of them remains to remind people of damage atomics can do.  Its very bad they were used, but they proberly saved a million lives in using them, the US invasion of Japan would have been a complete blood bath.  To be honest the atomics did not do that much damage in terms of population the fire bombing of Tokyo killed more (i think) than both bombs combined, as did the fire bombings of Dresden, turned an entire city and almost a quater of a million people into charred ash and dust.

One of the most incredible things was that two women survived the blast, they worked in the bank and where not 100 yeards from where the fammous "man reclining on steps" shadow was.  The wall of the bank was huge and thick, solid granite and the blast kina deflected round the building.

Two female bank staff survived, one of them was wounded (i think) and later died from radition sickness after drinking the "black rain" that fell in the aftermath, this rain was full of iradiated ash and looked like oil.  The other lady survived and was interviewed for a documentory that was shown on the BBC a few years back.  Those two women still hold the record for being the closest to a atomic explosion in a non-sealed, shielded place and surviving.

Being inside would not have helped anyone.  The blasts would have shattered entire buildings like glass, the BBC documentory spoke to a man who lived on a hill over a mile and a half from the city, the blast wave picked him up and threw him across his living room like a rag doll.

Edited by Wyrdlight, 23 February 2010 - 09:07 AM.


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Posted 01 March 2010 - 08:00 AM

View PostDorothyGail, on 03 April 2008 - 08:26 PM, said:

The shadows were not just of people and objects.  The pattern of this woman's kimono was seared onto her flesh.  It was a horrible use of man's power.  The flip side is that, while the US killed 200,000 people with the two bombs, the alternative was an invasion of the mainland.  The months leading up to that would have seen a continuation of the firebombing of major Japanese cities, which was estimated to be killing 250,000 people per month.  Additionally, the invasion itself would have claimed about one million Japanese lives.  

The US Secretary of War at the time, Henry Stimson said, "The face of war is the face of death."  There is nothing pretty about the mass slaughter of human beings.  And the fact that the more 'advanced' man becomes in weaponry, the more civilians will pay the cost.  Hiroshima and Nagasaki were big enough single events to capture the attention of the world, but the problem goes far beyond these two dates.

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Not to mention the tens of thousands of American troops that would have died trying to invade the mainland. In WW2, manpower wasn't expendable.


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Posted 01 March 2010 - 08:18 AM

My sister visited Japan a couple of years ago, and visited the Hiroshima museums. She said that seeing the shadows was very haunting

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 04:00 AM

I saw them when I was in Hiroshima.  One of the most striking examples was on a flight of stone stairs that (before the blast) had been leading up to a bank.  A bunch of people were sitting on the stairs waiting for the bank to open.  When the bomb went off their shadows protected the stone a tiny bit so that you can see raised discolored areas where their shadows were.  It's an appalling thing to see but it's good to see it because-- it happened.  

There's a very moving and informative memorial museum at Hiroshima.  When I was there (which was 20 years ago) there was a gigantic pile of origami cranes (symbolizing peace) directly beneath the spot where the bomb detonated. People who visited there would each make a few paper cranes and add them to the pile.  I wonder if that's still there?

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 11:37 PM

These shadows exist, and there is a logical reasoning behind it. Thermal heat waves can only travel in a straight line, but it is so powerful that when it's blocked by an object it completely vaporizes it. However, the object was still there, so it leaves an imprint on what it was blocking. These are called the shadows.
And pictures aren't that hard to find, just type "Hiroshima Shadows" in google images and it shows up. Although, you posted this eight years ago, so times may have changed ;)
heres an example, a person and a ladder leaning against a wall:
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or this, a person sitting on stairs:
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:22 AM

Anyone remember the old Simpsons episode when Homer goes back to the house he grew up in? There was a shadow left behind from Homer sitting in front of the Radiation King TV all day.

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