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Why Can't A Woman Be Pope?

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 02:29 PM

View PostAtentutankh-pasheri, on 10 March 2013 - 01:15 PM, said:

Perhaps be radical and actually make a Christian Pope, as apposed to this two millenia long succesion of semi-pagan anti-Christs. However, there will not be a woman Pope for all the reasons made in previous posts, and perhaps mostly because even though the religion of Rome is a corrupt version of paganism, having a priestess is definately pagan. Anyway, strange that in UK they do not seem to understand their own language and have no idea that the feminine of priest is priestess. Still, at least they gradually make their way back to paganism Posted Image

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Having priestess' is one of the things I've always liked about paganism. That one fact alone has influence my spiritual beliefs, as it is empowers women when most religions do the opposite.


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Posted 10 March 2013 - 03:15 PM

The same reason gay people are demonised by the Catholic Church. Because they're still living in 2000 years ago.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 08:01 PM

View PostBeany, on 10 March 2013 - 02:29 PM, said:

Having priestess' is one of the things I've always liked about paganism. That one fact alone has influence my spiritual beliefs, as it is empowers women when most religions do the opposite.
Perhaps it is overdue to bring back the worship and High Priestesses of Isis. Was massively popular back in the days.....     And perhaps it would mean there would not need to be scandalous video about Cardinal Bertone on youtube. So scandalous that I would never link to here for legal reasons. Surprising youtube have not removed yet.....


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Posted 10 March 2013 - 08:12 PM

View PostAtentutankh-pasheri, on 10 March 2013 - 01:15 PM, said:

Perhaps be radical and actually make a Christian Pope, as apposed to this two millenia long succesion of semi-pagan anti-Christs. However, there will not be a woman Pope for all the reasons made in previous posts, and perhaps mostly because even though the religion of Rome is a corrupt version of paganism, having a priestess is definately pagan. Anyway, strange that in UK they do not seem to understand their own language and have no idea that the feminine of priest is priestess. Still, at least they gradually make their way back to paganism Posted Image

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Bah! You love us (Catholics) reallly! Paganism? That's a new one on me! How so?

Edited by Star of the Sea, 10 March 2013 - 08:14 PM.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 08:21 PM

View PostHavocWing, on 10 March 2013 - 04:16 AM, said:

Why would they want to be?

Why, in God's name, would any sane women want to!!!?!

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 08:36 PM

View PostMistydawn, on 10 March 2013 - 08:21 PM, said:

Why, in God's name, would any sane women want to!!!?!

Bingo!

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 09:43 PM

View PostMistydawn, on 10 March 2013 - 08:21 PM, said:

Why, in God's name, would any sane women want to!!!?!

That's what I meant, except for the part of gods name.

I don't see how any sane person would want to, man or woman.

Edited by HavocWing, 10 March 2013 - 09:44 PM.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 09:44 PM

View PostStar of the Sea, on 10 March 2013 - 08:12 PM, said:

Bah! You love us (Catholics) reallly! Paganism? That's a new one on me! How so?
As a Catholic you are essentially a pagan already. Christ would not recognise what he began in your bells and smells and saints and statues and ikons. And as British you are from a country whose established church engages in the verbal contortion of "women priests". This seems insulting to women, unlike with paganism were it is normal and honourable to be a priestess, and honest.....

Edited by Atentutankh-pasheri, 10 March 2013 - 10:03 PM.


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Posted 10 March 2013 - 10:06 PM

View PostA Tutankh-passeri, on 10 March 2013 - 09:44 PM, said:

As a Catholic you are essentially a pagan already. Christ would not recognise what he began in your bells and smells and saints and statues and icons. And as British you are from a country whose established church engages in the verbal contortion of "women priests". Besides, you are atheists who have wrapped yourselves in the cloak of religion, yet your "god" is simply a man and your trinity is stolen from us to provide yourselves with a fig leaf of decency. 2,000 years you have lied and cheated and killed, yet you have never destroyed the old gods. They sleep in the folk memory of all, and in some they have began to waken these years past. Your time begins to fade atheists, your world collapses around you. We sit to one side and watch and wait.

Who is us? :w00t:  Oh my! This is one heck of a post... :P

Edited by Star of the Sea, 10 March 2013 - 10:09 PM.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 10:15 PM

View PostStar of the Sea, on 10 March 2013 - 10:06 PM, said:

Who is us? :w00t:  Oh my! This is one heck of a post... :P
Clearly, and as ridiculous as your "religion". You are quoting a phantom by the way.... Posted Image


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Posted 10 March 2013 - 10:23 PM

View PostA Tutankh-passeri, on 10 March 2013 - 10:15 PM, said:

Clearly, and as ridiculous as your "religion". You are quoting a phantom by the way.... Posted Image

LOL! That explains it all then B)

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 01:59 AM

OK, one reason to be a popess is because of all the cool dresses  you'd get to wear. When a guy wears them they're called robes. And the hats & jewelry look pretty substantial, too.


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Posted 12 March 2013 - 10:18 AM

View PostAtentutankh-pasheri, on 10 March 2013 - 01:15 PM, said:

Perhaps be radical and actually make a Christian Pope, as apposed to this two millenia long succesion of semi-pagan anti-Christs. However, there will not be a woman Pope for all the reasons made in previous posts, and perhaps mostly because even though the religion of Rome is a corrupt version of paganism, having a priestess is definately pagan. Anyway, strange that in UK they do not seem to understand their own language and have no idea that the feminine of priest is priestess. Still, at least they gradually make their way back to paganism Posted Image

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I suspect that this is not an error but a deliberate change. In the later half of the 20th century a lot of gender specific words were removed from "correct english language" to prevent discrimination (or as political correct ness.)

Terms such as author /authoress  poet/ poetess, were replaced with  a word inclusive of gender. So a priest can now be either man or woman, as can an author  or a poet.

As an aside, "ess" tends to denote female as in governor/governess or  or seamstress or indeed lioness.  A lot of these  exclusively female jobs had already diappeared and the names of most others were changed to make them inclusive of male ad female  These suffixes came into English from the french after the 1300s, as french became the courtly language of Britain with the Norman conquest.

Instead of chairman or chair woman one was simply called "the chair" or chair person. It got harder with policeman and fisher man but only because they were so engrained in language and culture. Police officer works, but fisher person doesn't.

It is interesting that the latin word for priest , sacerdos, is inclusive of male and female and ancient romans had women priests, but in "The world of warcraft", a modern game played mostly by males, a women priest is called a priestess.

Edited by Mr Walker, 12 March 2013 - 10:36 AM.

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 12:55 PM

View PostMr Walker, on 12 March 2013 - 10:18 AM, said:

Instead of chairman or chair woman one was simply called "the chair" or chair person.
Madness.....
How long before woman is changed to "wo" and man simply made illegal.....


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Posted 12 March 2013 - 01:55 PM

View PostAtentutankh-pasheri, on 10 March 2013 - 08:01 PM, said:

Perhaps it is overdue to bring back the worship and High Priestesses of Isis. Was massively popular back in the days..... And perhaps it would mean there would not need to be scandalous video about Cardinal Bertone on youtube. So scandalous that I would never link to here for legal reasons. Surprising youtube have not removed yet.....

I think it's important to recognize both the feminine and male divine; I don't care to see one made supreme over the other, but would love to see more balance. Women are as capable of carrying out sacred duties as men are, I think most of us recognize that; however some of us would yield our own common sense and fairness to church authority and accept that because it is tradition it should not change. And who benefits from that, and who loses?






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