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[Render]

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ScienceDaily (Sep. 11, 2012) — Non-smokers who live with or spend time with smokers are damaging their memory, according to new research from Northumbria University.

The findings, published in the latest online edition of the journal Addiction is the first study to explore the relationship between exposure to other people's smoke and everyday memory problems.
Dr Tom Heffernan and Dr Terence O'Neil, both researchers at the Collaboration for Drug and Alcohol Research Group at Northumbria University, compared a group of current smokers with two groups of non-smokers -- those who were regularly exposed to second-hand smoke and those who were not.
Those exposed to second-hand smoke either lived with smokers or spent time with smokers, for example in a designated "smoking area," and reported being exposed to second-hand smoke for an average of 25 hours a week for an average of four and a half years.
The three groups were tested on time-based memory (remembering to carry out an activity after some time) and event-based memory (which refers to memory for future intentions and activities).
Researchers found that the non-smokers who had been exposed to second-hand smoke forgot almost 20% more in the memory tests than those non-smokers not exposed. However, both groups out-performed the current smokers who forgot 30% more than those who were not exposed to second-hand smoking.

http://www.scienceda...20911091340.htm

So maybe ppl can think again when they claim other ppl shouldn't be bothered when they smoke because it only affects their body.

[Hilander]

I'm not saying that this isn't true but how do they know the person didn't have the memory problem to begin with.

[The Id3al Experience]

Render, on 02 October 2012 - 10:13 PM, said:

http://www.scienceda...20911091340.htm

So maybe ppl can think again when they claim other ppl shouldn't be bothered when they smoke because it only affects their body.

Or maybe non smokers can still stop complaining, nowsdays smoking is outside, and if you are a non smoker hanging around a smoker, dont blame the smoker. you have a choice, its not like smokers come up to people and hang around them to pass off their second hand smoke.

[catch-me-if-you-can]

What about first hand smokers, does smoking cause memory loss? I'm a smoker myself but I think memory loss is the least of my health concerns. It's bad, I know.

[lightly]

do ya forget the one in your first hand?   .      .      .

[Likely Guy]

If that's true, then smokers should be continuously forgetting where they put their keys, wallet, glasses etc.

Such is not the case, so I respectfully call "BS".

[The Silver Thong]

Man kind has been smoking how long and if this was the case when the majority smoked society would have been fubard. I call this BS anti smoking propaganda.

[FurthurBB]

Render, on 02 October 2012 - 10:13 PM, said:

http://www.scienceda...20911091340.htm

So maybe ppl can think again when they claim other ppl shouldn't be bothered when they smoke because it only affects their body.

This doesn't make a lot of sense because other studies have shown that smoking a cigarette can improve memory, like if you smoke right before a test.  I do not see why when exhaled it would have the opposite effect.  I would like to see some more study into this area.

[Likely Guy]

How large was the study group?

[The Silver Thong]

Likely Guy, on 03 October 2012 - 03:14 AM, said:

How large was the study group?

Probably a very select group that belong to hitler like anti smoking groups.

[Cybele]

The article doesn't say anything about what was done to control for bias or confounding, so it would be premature to make any sort of conclusions based on the information provided. There's not much doubt that second-hand smoke is harmful, however.

[Cybele]

Likely Guy, on 03 October 2012 - 03:14 AM, said:

How large was the study group?

http://onlinelibrary...4056.x/abstract

Another case of bad mainstream science journalism. They didn't give the reader enough information and warped the authors' "may suffer impairment" into a title making a defnitive statement.

Edited by Cybele, 03 October 2012 - 04:03 AM.

[The Silver Thong]

Msg and aspertame plus soda and potatoe chips can create the same results. I bet most monsanto gm foods do the same.

[MissMelsWell]

They say it's the nicotine that actually improves memory when you smoke. I dunno about that either. I couldn't find my keys when I was a smoker, I quit 7 months ago, with a nicotine replacement therapy, and I still can't find my keys.   LOL

I've never quite figured out what it was about 2nd hand smoke that was so different from first hand.

I'm guessing here: exhaled smoke should have been somewhat filtered after it's been pillaged by the cilia in the smokers lungs. These are the fibers that trap the tar, many particles, and other nastiness that goes along with smoking.

Or do they consider second hand smoke to be the smoke emitting directly from the burning cigarette (which would then make it first hand smoke?)

It's just something I've always wondered about. LOL.

Oh and I'm pretty proud that I've been smoke free for 7 months. Thanks to a good quality ecig. The anti-smoking freaks have been trying to get those banned too though... but I can tell ya, my lung capacity came back, I can actually freaking run now, I don't stink anymore, my teeth are slowly getting better, and my skin has really really improved! Lovin them.

[Likely Guy]

Cybele, on 03 October 2012 - 03:58 AM, said:

http://onlinelibrary...4056.x/abstract

Another case of bad mainstream science journalism. They didn't give the reader enough information and warped the authors' "may suffer impairment" into a title making a defnitive statement.

There you go. Thanks Cybele. 73 people were studied.