One of the theme parks here is doing a white Christmas with snow machines, I might have to get a look at that, never seen a white Christmas.
BTW, That S Radio was at the Miguel site, they seem to have lost the pictures, and accidentally (I hope) removed some text. It now says:
The chances are that the first two post-abduction experiences Hickson have been the work of his mind trying to eliminate uncertainty and, incidentally, find a positive way to their Original abduction. The third experience is more complex because it involves several members of his family.
's "radio", through which Charlie receives telepathic messages, seems to echo the need to understand their need to make sense of what happened in October 1973.
We can see here that clearly something has been deleted.
Nice analogy, like a ghost right?
And because the men had different post experiences, that can still mean they experienced, the same thing initially, well I do agree with that much, I do feel their experience may have been one and the same, however, as there is no obvious signs of insanity with Charlie as there is with Calvin, yet Charlie corroborates continued contact even if he does not state the religious message, but the more standard message of We Are Here To Help?
And does that Make Charlie more believable?
As the contact happened weeks after the event, January 1974 Charlie received his first message, which is still close enough to the initial event to be considered a part of it. IMHO. Parker admittedly had to wait 19 years for the next contact, but again, Charlie has to be aware of Calvin's new tale, yet we seem to see no comment from Charlie?
Yes, Charlie had a drink, right after the incident though if I remeber, which had to result on whiskey on his breath, and any trained officer ought to pick that up.
So if Charlie was telling the truth, they as professionals would be remiss not to suspect alcohol.
And then a few later that night to
Help him sleep.
I do feel that there is as much evidence that Charlie raped Calvin as there is for aliens.
Now why did the police not confiscate the Whiskey and test it as well? Could it have been spiked as a prank, could it have been spikes as a revenge? Or could it simply have had a bad fermentation process resulting in a mildly toxic substance resulting in sleep paralysis? It is not more far fetched than an alien spaceship surely? I remember discussing an idea that BIgfoot could be such an apparition at one time in the crypto session, and considered perhaps a type of undiscovered fungus with a narcotic spore release might be considered as the trigger. Stand on it and take a trip.
For sure considering he had a tipple later that night.
Sounds like he and Joe would have got along well!
Yet after this they parted ways and Clavin moved away?
Do you know if they ever saw each other again?
I would be wary of giving a man a drink who had not drunk before. But I have seen many a short man drunk on Rum. No giant myself, but a happy drinker, not a violent one.
Quite honestly, I could not see if it was supporting or opposing, I thought it could go either way, the text is damming, and I accept the disclaimer that they were traumatized enough to be speaking gibberish, but really, if the trauma was indeed that great, how do we know how much was indeed gibberish? Here we have an example of nonsense, and to me many elements of the claim are preposterous, such as the size of the craft, which I know we disagree on, but to me is significant. As such, anything could have happened.
Going into an unconscious state is often accompanied by dreaming. Such as near death experiences.
That is essentially what Calvins Aliens turned into after 19 years. Minus the wings is all.
Carl Sagan made fun of them on National TV I hear, and did not believe them for a second. But apparently Mack contributed to a show meant for tv called Into The Unknown, which I shall endeavour to attain a copy of. I think I have already found one, I will let you know how I go. Did you ever get a hold of and watch that Roswell movie? Wasn't bad actually for a movie made for TV. Much better that that insanely boring Travis Walton tripe, he has a new theory on his abduction I hear. Never let go the teats of that cash cow Travis!!!
But not everyone thought they were lying, I figured you might like this, not sure if you have seen it, not posted so far as far as I know:
I happened to be working for Ingalls Shipbuilding at the time of the UFO incident. My office was in the refurbished "port warehouse building" that was only a couple hundred yards from where Hickson and Parker were fishing. And one of my colleagues, Jerry Shaver, had gone to school with Hickson. According to Jerry, "Charlie Hickson is one of the finest men I've ever known. I promise you that he would never tell a lie."
Means little, but hey, nice sentiment to see Charlie to his final resting place.
Those Doctors say Calivin is just fine, no mental problems? Anyone can see that is not quite right?
Link - Sagans Comments. He had some comments about Coynes UFO too.
Sagan had been systematically picking holes in Capt. Coyne's account of how a UFO had pulled his Army helicopter up nearly 2,000 feet in altitude during his encounter, and Dr. Hynek came to Coyne's defense, saying "Altimeters don't hallucinate." To which Dr. Sagan replied, "I don't mean to attack Captain Coyne, but people who read altimeters hallucinate."
Edited by psyche101, 14 November 2013 - 03:03 AM.