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#16    Abramelin

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 03:07 PM

I once met Javier Cabrera Darquea (the guy who possessed a zillion stones depicting native Americans playing with dinosaurs, natives looking through telescopes, and all that) in 1991. His little museum was located at the central plaza of the little town of Ica.

His museum was incredible: from top to bottom, from wall to wall, in literally every nook and cranny were these engraved stones.

Soon after I entered, he came from a back room, and we introduced ourselves to eachother. One of the first things he asked me was what I had studied. My answer was 'chemistry'. Then I asked him if I could see those stones from up real close, and it was ok. I still remember I thought, "I can make those engravings!", but I didn't tell him. He didn't say much, and I didn't have much time to wander around in his museum for much longer because else I would miss my bus (a 4 hours drive to the north; and yes, I missed my bus... something else to experience: feeling lost in country like that).

When I was about to leave, he asked me if I was interested in buying his book. I was, and he signed it for me:

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OK, a few days later (yes, I found my way back) I met an artist who recreated ancient Incan and Nazcan pottery:

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He demonstrated his art to us, and I bought one of his creations. Then I made a 'mistake', lol: I asked him in my best Spanish if he had ever heard of Cabrera and his engraved stones...

I don't know what he had heard me say, or maybe he assumed I thought he was one of those who made those fake stones for Cabrera, but he nearly exploded: he almost yelled in my face, saying that he was NOT ONE OF THOSE FRAUDS, and that he only recreated the ancient pottery because he wanted his ancestors' art to be preserved for humanity.

OK, so I excused myself and said I never intended to even suggest he was one of Cabrera's men. He cooled down, excused himself too for his outburst... and asked me if I was interested in buying another of his pots, lol.


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Posted 29 October 2012 - 03:33 PM

Very interesting.


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Posted 29 October 2012 - 06:18 PM

View PostAbramelin, on 29 October 2012 - 03:07 PM, said:

I once met Javier Cabrera Darquea (the guy who possessed a zillion stones depicting native Americans playing with dinosaurs, natives looking through telescopes, and all that) in 1991. His little museum was located at the central plaza of the little town of Ica.

His museum was incredible: from top to bottom, from wall to wall, in literally every nook and cranny were these engraved stones.


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Posted 29 October 2012 - 06:48 PM

Thanks synchronomy! That was a great video.

Soon to be forgotten by those who want to believe...


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Posted 29 October 2012 - 08:42 PM

What I find most facinating is that these guys can re-introduce all of this ****, a certain number of people fall for it, and they never suffer any ill consequences for their dishonesty, in fact they make a lot of money doing this. As was mentioned, this is the same story (almost word for word) that came out a year or so ago.

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#21    Abramelin

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 09:00 PM

View PostAbramelin, on 29 October 2012 - 06:48 PM, said:

Thanks synchronomy! That was a great video.

Soon to be forgotten by those who want to believe...

Btw, this is a site with some excerpts from Cabrera's book (I have the 1988 edition in English) :

http://www.daveswarb...xerpt_index.htm


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Edited by Abramelin, 29 October 2012 - 09:02 PM.


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Posted 30 October 2012 - 11:36 AM

As interesting as all of this may look, and as much as I wish it was real, something smells terribly fishy in this whole story ..

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 05:39 PM

I personally think that the Ica stones are almost all fakes. The ones with more modern technology and ancient animals on them Certainly are fakes. I believe the poor doctor was duped hundreds of times by the nearby villagers who made all these stones. It is a shame, because there might have been some real ancient stone carvings orginally, but now those must be lumped in with the rest.

I think that these Mayan tablets fall into the same catagory. Fakes made by local peoples to take advantage of greedy or simple/naive researchers/collectors.

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 06:31 PM

Almost all? You are being polite here...

"Fakes made by local peoples to take advantage of greedy or simple/naive researchers/collectors."

They play with gullible new-age Westerners.

They are most often very poor people, and if they find a way to earn a buck or two, they won't hesitate to have a shot at it.

And I won't blame them for doing that at all.





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