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[Knight Of Shadows]

MichaelW, on 16 May 2012 - 08:22 AM, said:

You mean "I support the control of the land by one religious group over another because of an even more shaky claim based on fantasy". Those philosophical and "human" differences? I've seen your true colours and claiming humanity is just the lowest you can possibly go.



Tried, failed. It's not my problem that the people allow their leaders to do terrible things without speaking out against it. Knight's continued support for Bashar al-Assad is a good example. How can I be empathetic with someone who supports mass murder? How can I reason with someone who does not wish to use the rights that all human beings are born with and deserve to have?



Because there are no standards. All parties involved have blood on their hands and claiming otherwise is basically naive and biased. I know that's difficult for you infantile mind to understand but that's reality. Although even then, reality for you is warped by your bigoted hate for Jews.

i support no one and that's the last time i'll talk about it .. you sitting in your stupid bed no pressure or any of that crap passing judgements left and right
you want me to say something that can get my family in danger so you can have your ******* answer

[Yamato]

and then, on 16 May 2012 - 08:01 AM, said:

Bottom line is that the majority of ME Arabs are greedy, hateful people who act like children where the State of Israel is concerned.  Spiteful and deadly children to be sure but still just children.  They are willing to raise up what should be an adult's most precious possession - their children - and train them to love death and hate.  This is sick and twisted and there can never be an excuse for it.  All ostensibly for a tiny sliver of land.  Land they don't need or, truth be told, never even wanted until Jews settled it.  I was taught that you never get in the way when your enemy is happily destroying themselves.  Let them continue to bleed if that's what they want.  Maybe if it goes on long enough the Israeli's will learn to value the hudna as a tactic as well.  Wouldn't THAT be funny to observe.

Well your "bottom line" about the "majority of Arabs being greedy hateful people" and people bleeding and what is funny to observe is duly noted then.  Allegedly, michaelw might correct you about the majority of Arabs as he's just informed me his problem is with the Arab leaders!  Exciting times indeed.  

[MichaelW]

Knight Of Shadows, on 16 May 2012 - 09:50 AM, said:

i support no one and that's the last time i'll talk about it .. you sitting in your stupid bed no pressure or any of that crap passing judgements left and right
you want me to say something that can get my family in danger so you can have your ******* answer

And that's the problem. Innocent people such as yourself are being repressed and unable to express your views the way you wish. It's really sad to see this. How anyone can support this repression is beyond me.

[Knight Of Shadows]

am unable to express my point on this matter ... not other matters and you still bringin up that topic which is annoying
when i talk about other matters i can talk my mind such as everything else beside syria

[MichaelW]

Yamato, on 16 May 2012 - 09:41 AM, said:

Jesus is fantasy?  Incredible!  You should alert the church of this immediately.

He is, along with any ideas that are currently floating around in that brain of yours.

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I didn't say for you to be empathetic to Bashar al-Assad, I said for you to be empathetic with the Arab people.  That's what you just claimed you were capable of, differentiating the Arabs from their leaders.  And you fall right into the first hole you possibly can when in the very next reply you forget all about your hollow claim about the Arabs.   I can see the people through their government; you can't.  You have to see the government and keep talking about the government because your opinion about someone's government is how you see its people.

And yet somehow, I have to differentiate between the Arab people and their various tinpot dictators and yet you automatically assume that everyone in Israel supports whatever it is their Prime Minister is up to these days.

I know the Arabs are not reflective of the government these days otherwise there would have been no revolts.

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You'll have to quote me where I talked about blood not being on some party's hands.  That's not what I said, and that's not the difference.  The difference between me and you is, I respect the human rights of all people.  You can sit there and ignore that some people's rights are being forcibly denied and some peoples' aren't.   Your racism about "Arabs" and "Jews" notwithstanding that, because humanity doesn't care what the characteristic of someone is first before it respects their human rights.   We care about the rights of Palestinians, because as you Zionists constantly love to remind us, Israelis live freely and have rights in Israel that are humane by any country's standard.

Racism now? That's a new one, although inevitable to say the least. It's basically wrong though as I haven't said anything remotely racist about Arabs or Jews (although your views of Judaism are close, but it's more intolerance than anything else).

[Yamato]

MichaelW, on 16 May 2012 - 10:35 AM, said:

He is, along with any ideas that are currently floating around in that brain of yours.




And yet somehow, I have to differentiate between the Arab people and their various tinpot dictators and yet you automatically assume that everyone in Israel supports whatever it is their Prime Minister is up to these days.

I know the Arabs are not reflective of the government these days otherwise there would have been no revolts.



Racism now? That's a new one, although inevitable to say the least. It's basically wrong though as I haven't said anything remotely racist about Arabs or Jews (although your views of Judaism are close, but it's more intolerance than anything else).

Yes, you have to make that differentiation when you discuss this topic with me.  

If you know the Arab people are good, stop blathering about Assad as soon as I suggest empathizing with the Arab people.   You should have agreed with me immediately when I said that.   Do you just have to disagree with every sentence I write on some kind of emotional level?   You run yourself in circles for no good reason.

And where did you learn that Jesus is fantasy?

[Knight Of Shadows]

Yamato, on 16 May 2012 - 12:02 PM, said:

Yes, you have to make that differentiation when you discuss this topic with me.  

If you know the Arab people are good, stop blathering about Assad as soon as I suggest empathizing with the Arab people.   You should have agreed with me immediately when I said that.   Do you just have to disagree with every sentence I write on some kind of emotional level?   You run yourself in circles for no good reason.

And where did you learn that Jesus is fantasy?

Hallelujah

[MichaelW]

Yamato, on 16 May 2012 - 12:02 PM, said:

Yes, you have to make that differentiation when you discuss this topic with me.

  

That's good then.

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If you know the Arab people are good, stop blathering about Assad as soon as I suggest empathizing with the Arab people.   You should have agreed with me immediately when I said that.   Do you just have to disagree with every sentence I write on some kind of emotional level?   You run yourself in circles for no good reason.

I was making a point but go ahead and rant on anyway. It's kinda amusing.

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And where did you learn that Jesus is fantasy?

I made that decision myself. I have yet to be conviced that God exists but in saying that, no one has proven that God doesn't exist. But that is off topic and I really shouldn't try to push my views on you.

If you want to believe it, that is your perogative. I know some very nice Christians who aren't as.......er....... "special" as you.