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#1    Ohelemapit

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 12:09 PM

He said he didn’t know what it meant?

Absolute Rubbish.

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A 20-year-old Greek footballer has been banned for life from playing for his national team after a controversial goal celebration in which he appeared to give a Nazi salute. The player says he hadn't understood the meaning of the gesture - but is it possible, in 2013, for a European to be so poorly informed?

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 12:28 PM

That's about the silliest excuse since Dieter "I didn't dope - someone must have put the stuff in my toothpaste" Baumann.

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 01:13 PM

Maybe he did it without thinking about it and wasn't trying to give a Nazi salute, unless all those tattoo's are Nazi themed.  Its also a Roman salute.  I think banning him for life is a little much.


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Posted 19 March 2013 - 01:16 PM

Maybe Prince Harry should have used that excuse after going to that fancy dress party as a Nazi soldier LOL.

Have to say, I think if most football leagues were as tough it would be better in the long run in sorting out the spoilt brats who think they can get away with whatever they want, on and off the pitch.


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Posted 19 March 2013 - 02:39 PM

It looks to me like the Golden Dawn are making the authorities a bit twitchy! I wonder....would his punishment have been so severe had he given the clenched-fist salute so beloved by followers of that other mass-murderer, 'Uncle' Joe Stalin?

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 02:48 PM

It does look like nazi salute, not pointing to a firend


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Posted 19 March 2013 - 02:49 PM

View PostHilander, on 19 March 2013 - 01:13 PM, said:

Maybe he did it without thinking about it and wasn't trying to give a Nazi salute, unless all those tattoo's are Nazi themed.  Its also a Roman salute.  I think banning him for life is a little much.

I thought the Roman salute was right hand (clenched) to left breast, then sharply out at shoulder level, hand and fingers extended... The Nazi salute was (if I recall) the left hand and arm rigidly extended at an upward angle...

Picky I know, and I have no doubts this doofus did not mean a Roman salute....


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Posted 19 March 2013 - 03:17 PM

Most Greeks, though, still haven't forgiven the Germans for them invading their country.


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Posted 19 March 2013 - 03:39 PM

View PostTaun, on 19 March 2013 - 02:49 PM, said:

I thought the Roman salute was right hand (clenched) to left breast, then sharply out at shoulder level, hand and fingers extended... The Nazi salute was (if I recall) the left hand and arm rigidly extended at an upward angle...

Picky I know, and I have no doubts this doofus did not mean a Roman salute....


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The Nazi salute Hitlergruß, and the Roman salute Saluto Romano, are exactly similar - the 'arm across the breast' is pure Hollywood! Although similar, the two gestures are entirely unrelated. In fact, no record of the so-called 'Roman' salute exists until the 18th.Century painting 'Oath of the Horatii' by Jaques-Louis David! It was left to the 19th. and 20th. Century films to fix the idea of the salute being an ancient Roman custom!

Hitler's version of the origins of the Nazi salute......



"I made it the salute of the Party long after the Duce had adopted it. I'd read the description of the sitting of the Diet of Wurms, in the course of which Luther was greeted with the German salute. It was to show him that he was not being confronted with arms, but with peaceful intentions. In the days of  Frederick the Great, people still saluted with their hats, with pompous gestures. In the Middle Ages the serfs humbly doffed their bonnets, whilst the noblemen gave the German salute. It was in the Ratskeller at Bremen, about the year 1921, that I first saw this style of salute. It must be regarded as a survival of an ancient custom, which originally signified: "See, I have no weapon in my hand!" I introduced the salute into the Party at our first meeting in Weimar. The SS at once gave it a soldierly style. It's from that moment that our opponents honored us with the epithet "dogs of Fascists".
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Edited by ealdwita, 19 March 2013 - 04:10 PM.

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:20 PM

A stupid football player?  Surely not?


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Posted 19 March 2013 - 05:15 PM

View Postealdwita, on 19 March 2013 - 02:39 PM, said:

It looks to me like the Golden Dawn are making the authorities a bit twitchy! I wonder....would his punishment have been so severe had he given the clenched-fist salute so beloved by followers of that other mass-murderer, 'Uncle' Joe Stalin?
   Or perhaps the two fingered salute (which I favour), used by Winston.

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 05:27 PM

They should be banning soccer, not one player.

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 05:27 PM

Place thumb of either hand to nose,and waggle fingers.

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 05:28 PM

View Postspud the mackem, on 19 March 2013 - 05:15 PM, said:

Or perhaps the two fingered salute (which I favour), used by Winston.

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 05:35 PM

View PostSweetpumper, on 19 March 2013 - 05:27 PM, said:

They should be banning soccer, not one player.
  Football (soccer to you),is played on all habitable Continents,by people of all races,which cannot be said of any other sport except fishing,however fishing does not have a massive spectator following.So you are definitely in a minority.

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