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Humans in SE Europe were of a different sort


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#1    Big Bad Voodoo

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 09:11 PM

Then those in west europe.


http://popular-archa...say-researchers


Humans in southeastern Europe were never geographically isolated from Asia and Africa by glaciers, and according to these researchers, this resulted in different evolutionary forces acting on early human populations in this region. The BH-1 hominin was an example of one of these populations.  

Edited by the L, 08 February 2013 - 09:11 PM.

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 09:15 PM

I don't want the ice to melt but what will we find underneath when it does?

So can someone read this and give me the gist of it all?


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Posted 08 February 2013 - 09:19 PM

View PostI believe you, on 08 February 2013 - 09:15 PM, said:

So can someone read this and give me the gist of it all?

I already did.

Humans in southeastern Europe were never geographically isolated from Asia and Africa by glaciers, and according to these researchers, this resulted in different evolutionary forces acting on early human populations in this region (then those in west europe who were geographicly isolated). The BH-1 hominin ( found in Serbia) was an example of one of these populations.  

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 09:21 PM

View Postthe L, on 08 February 2013 - 09:19 PM, said:

I already did.

Humans in southeastern Europe were never geographically isolated from Asia and Africa by glaciers, and according to these researchers, this resulted in different evolutionary forces acting on early human populations in this region (then those in west europe who were geographicly isolated). The BH-1 hominin ( found in Serbia) was an example of one of these populations.  

In English and what exactly does it mean? How were they different? Come on what you have offered so far is just saying they are different but now how...


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Posted 08 February 2013 - 09:25 PM

View PostI believe you, on 08 February 2013 - 09:21 PM, said:

In English and what exactly does it mean? How were they different? Come on what you have offered so far is just saying they are different but now how...

Since Im not biologist or paleontologist this could be hilarious discription. Also since my mother language isnt English and you didnt understand article in English I doubt that I can be helpful.
But to be social, easygoing and friendly I could try.

It means that eraly human on Balkan were different from early human in West europe. Why? Because they were not isolated and didnt evolve and developed indentpendently as those humans in west Europe traped by ice glaciers.

Edited by the L, 08 February 2013 - 09:52 PM.

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 09:28 PM

You two are a great double act! :lol:

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 09:35 PM

View Postouija ouija, on 08 February 2013 - 09:28 PM, said:

You two are a great double act! :lol:

Its like one of those conversation in Pulp fiction. Only not that cool.

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 09:51 PM

View Postthe L, on 08 February 2013 - 09:25 PM, said:

Since Im not biologist or palaetnologist this could be hilarious discription. Also since my mother language isnt English and you didnt understand article in English I doubt that I can be helpfull.
But to be social, easygoing and frindly I could try.

It means that eraly human on Balkan were different from early human in West europe. Why? Because they were not isolated and didnt evolve and developed indentpendently as those humans in west Europe traped by ice glaciers.

I understand that perfectly my friend, you and the article both stated why they were different....but how were they different?


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Posted 08 February 2013 - 09:54 PM

BH-1 had no Neanderthal-derived characteristics.

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 09:59 PM

With a complete lack of derived Neandertal traits, these specimens are distinct from the more westerly penecontemporary hominins. Although the sample size is small, and consists of unassociated crania and mandibles, this pattern is consistent with a lack of isolation during glaciations that resulted in different morphological outcomes from those at the west of the continent. In that context, the Balkan Peninsula could be part of the geographic spread of a Southwest Asian “source” population [9] for the purported successive repopulation of Europe in the Middle Pleistocene.

http://www.plosone.o...al.pone.0054608

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 10:02 PM

While in West Europe humans have had neanderthal traits Balkan people were civilized. :innocent:
Which is preserved to this day.

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 10:59 PM

View Postthe L, on 08 February 2013 - 10:02 PM, said:

While in West Europe humans have had neanderthal traits Balkan people were civilized. :innocent:
Which is preserved to this day.

Did you just add that yourself? :D

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 06:49 AM

View Postouija ouija, on 08 February 2013 - 10:59 PM, said:

Did you just add that yourself? :D

Yes. :D





That was a joke....Me out of order.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 08:49 AM

View Postouija ouija, on 08 February 2013 - 10:59 PM, said:

Did you just add that yourself? :D

He shouldn’t have, since
one of the most important Neanderthal finding sites is in Croatia, near Krapina (yes, town is really called Krapina :lol: ).

http://www.culturene...t.aspx?id=23639


Of course, the nations more to the south and to the east, like, say, Greeks or Bulgarians, are different story, but still they were not outside the possible Neanderthal interbreeding area (see map on the link above).

Logically, more east or south you go, greater the chance of seeing Asiatic or African influences. It's not just about glaciers, it's about constant migrations and interbreedings with no "pure" or "original" populations left anywhere in Europe. Especially not in Balkans, that was part of Ottoman Empire for 500 years. Unlike Balkan, Croatia was the European border, never part of that empire.

There are no national genomes, only more and less prevalent mixtures, but certain political options are ignorant of that obvious fact, probably because they need to feel special. Oh, they are special. Specially transparent, to be more precise.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 09:00 AM

View PostHelen of Annoy, on 09 February 2013 - 08:49 AM, said:

He shouldn’t have, since
one of the most important Neanderthal finding sites is in Croatia, near Krapina (yes, town is really called Krapina :lol: ).


I would rather choose Vindija cave instead.
http://en.wikipedia....ki/Vindija_Cave

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