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What do Americans make of evolution?


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#121    joz48

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 03:38 PM

yer ok frank you've converted me


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 04:08 PM

Now now boys...play nice! Lol


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 04:13 PM

Sorry didn't mean to come across sarcastic.


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 04:20 PM

View Postjoz48, on 03 October 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

So does that mean I have to take it on faith that what has happened over the last x many years is evolution or can you provide me with another quantifiable way of doing so ?

Naturally not, in fact we know very little of what happened evolution-wise in the last x years of evolution if we exclude bacteria and viruses where we are observing it constantly. That is why we call it a theory and not the "law of evolution".

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 04:28 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 03 October 2013 - 04:20 PM, said:

Naturally not, in fact we know very little of what happened evolution-wise in the last x years of evolution if we exclude bacteria and viruses where we are observing it constantly. That is why we call it a theory and not the "law of evolution".

So we are unable to go further with this?


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 08:28 PM

View Postjoz48, on 03 October 2013 - 04:28 PM, said:

So we are unable to go further with this?

At some point, probably. Right now? It will remain a theory.

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 09:08 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 03 October 2013 - 08:28 PM, said:

At some point, probably. Right now? It will remain a theory.

Ok thanks question mark at least I've learnt a lot more about the subject.


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Posted 04 October 2013 - 03:39 AM

View Postquestionmark, on 03 October 2013 - 04:20 PM, said:

That is why we call it a theory and not the "law of evolution".

Not in science. Theories do not become laws. A scientific theory is the current best explanation for  a phenomena. In the case of evolution, the evidence is voluminous. So much to be nearly unassailable.

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 03:42 AM

View Postjoz48, on 03 October 2013 - 04:13 PM, said:

Sorry didn't mean to come across sarcastic.
I didn't take it that way; sorry I didn't see it till now


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Posted 04 October 2013 - 03:45 AM

View Postninjadude, on 04 October 2013 - 03:39 AM, said:

Not in science. Theories do not become laws. A scientific theory is the current best explanation for  a phenomena. In the case of evolution, the evidence is voluminous. So much to be nearly unassailable.
The way I was taught is that what use (nineteenth century and before) to be called "natural laws" are now called theories and what use to be called "facts" are now called data.  Of course the old vocabulary still persists but it has problems -- the idea of a natural law, for example, naturally implies a natural lawgiver -- and no end of mental mischief stems from this.





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