Jump to content




Welcome to Unexplained Mysteries! Please sign in or create an account to start posting and to access a host of extra features.


- - - - -

Should Hunger Strikers be Force Fed?


  • Please log in to reply
44 replies to this topic

#1    and then

and then

    Abyssus Abyssum Invocat

  • Member
  • 14,183 posts
  • Joined:15 Dec 2011
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Land's End

  • Because what came before never seems enough...

Posted 11 July 2013 - 04:15 PM

http://www.timesofis...81ec81-54430521

Interesting quandary.  The strikers are in prison and are protesting that it is unjust.  Israel (or the US) will be called barbaric if they allow them to die.  Israel will be called barbaric if they force feed them.  If Israel releases them it is proven they will take up arms again.  In fact the ONLY solution is for Israel to admit defeat, pack up and de-camp Palestine.  Since that is NEVER going to happen, a reasonable human being would ask that the bloodshed be stopped and an agreement be finished.  Apparently THAT is never going to happen either.  These guys in Israeli prison or at Gitmo who want to end their lives through protest should be allowed to imo.  But when the day comes that a prisoner can dictate their sentence by refusing food... well there's an idea that should catch on quite lively  :)

  We've cast the world, we've set the stage,
  for what could be, the darkest age...

#2    Knight Of Shadows

Knight Of Shadows

    Shadow Dancer

  • Member
  • 5,251 posts
  • Joined:17 Mar 2009
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Free Syria

  • Rest In Peace A.B

Posted 11 July 2013 - 05:25 PM

View Postand then, on 11 July 2013 - 04:15 PM, said:

http://www.timesofis...81ec81-54430521

Interesting quandary.  The strikers are in prison and are protesting that it is unjust.  Israel (or the US) will be called barbaric if they allow them to die.  Israel will be called barbaric if they force feed them.  If Israel releases them it is proven they will take up arms again.  In fact the ONLY solution is for Israel to admit defeat, pack up and de-camp Palestine.  Since that is NEVER going to happen, a reasonable human being would ask that the bloodshed be stopped and an agreement be finished.  Apparently THAT is never going to happen either.  These guys in Israeli prison or at Gitmo who want to end their lives through protest should be allowed to imo.  But when the day comes that a prisoner can dictate their sentence by refusing food... well there's an idea that should catch on quite lively  :)
here is a middle solution ! give them back their rights !

by the name of Allah the Gracious the Merciful
Say, "I seek refuge in the Lord of daybreak From the evil of that which He created
And from the evil of darkness when it settles And from the evil of the blowers in knots
And from the evil of an envier when he envies"
truthful was Allah The Most High And Great


#3    ReaperS_ParadoX

ReaperS_ParadoX

    “What’s wrong with accepting madness?

  • Member
  • 2,521 posts
  • Joined:29 Jun 2012
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:A really cold region devoid of stars

  • The boundaries which divide Life from Death are at best shadowy and vague. Who shall say where the one ends, and where the other begins?

Posted 11 July 2013 - 05:27 PM

How would you force feed someone ?

COME WITH ME. OVERWHELMING POWER AND MADNESS AWAIT

THAT IS NOT DEAD WHICH CAN ETERNAL LIE AND WITH STRANGE AEONS EVEN DEATH MAY DIE

#4    Odin11

Odin11

    Paranormal Investigator

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 873 posts
  • Joined:15 Jun 2005
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Michigan

  • I like your Christ.
    I do not like your Christians.
    They are so unlike your Christ.
    -Gandhi-

Posted 11 July 2013 - 05:28 PM

When I was little I my friend who was 2 years younger then I would threaten to bite herself if is didn’t get her way. Something would happen and she would say “I’ll bite myself” and the other kids and I would just say go ahead your not hurting us. I view hunger strikes the same way, let them, they’re not hurting anyone but themselves.

"If we believe absurdities, we shall commit atrocities." -Voltaire

Geology shows that fossils are of different ages. Paleontology shows a fossil sequence, the list of species represented changes through time. Taxonomy shows biological relationships among species. Evolution is the explanation that threads it all together. Creationism is the practice of squeezing one's eyes shut and wailing "Does not!" ~Author Unknown

#5    The Silver Thong

The Silver Thong

    Forum Divinity

  • Member
  • 30,257 posts
  • Joined:02 Dec 2004
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Calgary Alberta Canada

Posted 11 July 2013 - 05:41 PM

View PostR4z3rsPar4d0x, on 11 July 2013 - 05:27 PM, said:

How would you force feed someone ?


Strapped down through a tube inserted in the nose that leads to the stomach.

Edited by The Silver Thong, 11 July 2013 - 05:42 PM.

Sittin back drinkin beer watchin the world take it's course.


The only thing god can't do is prove he exists ?

#6    Knight Of Shadows

Knight Of Shadows

    Shadow Dancer

  • Member
  • 5,251 posts
  • Joined:17 Mar 2009
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Free Syria

  • Rest In Peace A.B

Posted 11 July 2013 - 05:44 PM

View PostThe Silver Thong, on 11 July 2013 - 05:41 PM, said:

Strapped down through a tube inserted in the nose that leads to the stomach.
arughh man .. that sound like torture !
i always though they'd bring sexy nurses who'll tickle you till you open your mouth and shove the spoon inside

by the name of Allah the Gracious the Merciful
Say, "I seek refuge in the Lord of daybreak From the evil of that which He created
And from the evil of darkness when it settles And from the evil of the blowers in knots
And from the evil of an envier when he envies"
truthful was Allah The Most High And Great


#7    The Silver Thong

The Silver Thong

    Forum Divinity

  • Member
  • 30,257 posts
  • Joined:02 Dec 2004
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Calgary Alberta Canada

Posted 11 July 2013 - 06:07 PM

View PostKnight Of Shadows, on 11 July 2013 - 05:44 PM, said:

arughh man .. that sound like torture !
i always though they'd bring sexy nurses who'll tickle you till you open your mouth and shove the spoon inside


lol that sounds a hell of a lot better....

Sittin back drinkin beer watchin the world take it's course.


The only thing god can't do is prove he exists ?

#8    Odd Requiem

Odd Requiem

    Remote Viewer

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 558 posts
  • Joined:27 Feb 2013
  • Gender:Male

  • "All God does is watch us and kill us when we get boring. We must never, ever be boring."

Posted 11 July 2013 - 06:09 PM

But if the food is provided for them, and they refuse to eat it, can anybody really be held responsible, besides the starving protester?

I know this goes a lot deeper than being stubborn because prison food sucks...but srsly?

-I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity.//

#9    and then

and then

    Abyssus Abyssum Invocat

  • Member
  • 14,183 posts
  • Joined:15 Dec 2011
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Land's End

  • Because what came before never seems enough...

Posted 11 July 2013 - 06:16 PM

View PostKnight Of Shadows, on 11 July 2013 - 05:25 PM, said:

here is a middle solution ! give them back their rights !
As I said, it's never going to happen because what they are demanding is nothing less than the dissolution of the state of Israel.  They only want all the land and reparations..... good luck with that.  If they want to make a statement by becoming worm food then I say let them.  It's much better than killing strangers on a bus or in a restaurant.

  We've cast the world, we've set the stage,
  for what could be, the darkest age...

#10    and then

and then

    Abyssus Abyssum Invocat

  • Member
  • 14,183 posts
  • Joined:15 Dec 2011
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Land's End

  • Because what came before never seems enough...

Posted 11 July 2013 - 06:19 PM

View PostR4z3rsPar4d0x, on 11 July 2013 - 05:27 PM, said:

How would you force feed someone ?
Hospitals have to do it all the time with very ill patients.  A small plastic tube is inserted down the nose and into the stomach.  A protein liquid is infused that nourishes them, keeping them healthy (physically).  The real downside is that they have to be restrained or they would pull the tube out over and over.

  We've cast the world, we've set the stage,
  for what could be, the darkest age...

#11    acidhead

acidhead

    Were Not Your Slaves!

  • Member
  • 10,652 posts
  • Joined:13 Feb 2007
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Victoria, BC CANADA

Posted 12 July 2013 - 02:17 AM

View Postand then, on 11 July 2013 - 04:15 PM, said:

http://www.timesofis...81ec81-54430521

Interesting quandary.  The strikers are in prison and are protesting that it is unjust.  Israel (or the US) will be called barbaric if they allow them to die.  Israel will be called barbaric if they force feed them.  If Israel releases them it is proven they will take up arms again.  In fact the ONLY solution is for Israel to admit defeat, pack up and de-camp Palestine.  Since that is NEVER going to happen, a reasonable human being would ask that the bloodshed be stopped and an agreement be finished.  Apparently THAT is never going to happen either.  These guys in Israeli prison or at Gitmo who want to end their lives through protest should be allowed to imo.  But when the day comes that a prisoner can dictate their sentence by refusing food... well there's an idea that should catch on quite lively  :)

Another psychotic statement from our self-proclaimed christian-zionist member.  You call yourself a christian yet constantly call for death of individuals..... hardly the christian way of practicing what christians preach....  in fact its sounds very extreme.  

Its a slippery slope my friend.  Once a prisoner is allowed to starve them self to death it opens the door to a greater atrocity to occur within the prison system.

I think you should be ashamed of yourself.

"there is no wrong or right - just popular opinion"

#12    shrooma

shrooma

    . . . . Dazed & Confused . . . .

  • Member
  • 3,819 posts
  • Joined:14 Feb 2013
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:leeds, UK.

  • Live.
    Sin.
    Die.

Posted 12 July 2013 - 02:32 AM

ian brady's been on hunger strike for years now.
if i had my way, i'd force-feed him his own s**t 'til he died.
and take away his toothbrush too.....

“We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners. We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians."
.

-Halvard Lange-
Norwegian Prime Minister.

#13    and then

and then

    Abyssus Abyssum Invocat

  • Member
  • 14,183 posts
  • Joined:15 Dec 2011
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Land's End

  • Because what came before never seems enough...

Posted 12 July 2013 - 02:44 AM

View Postacidhead, on 12 July 2013 - 02:17 AM, said:

Another psychotic statement from our self-proclaimed christian-zionist member.  You call yourself a christian yet constantly call for death of individuals..... hardly the christian way of practicing what christians preach....  in fact its sounds very extreme.  

Its a slippery slope my friend.  Once a prisoner is allowed to starve them self to death it opens the door to a greater atrocity to occur within the prison system.

I think you should be ashamed of yourself.
I do not care what someone like YOU thinks of me.  I will gladly stand before my Creator when the day comes.  And as to the premise that a prisoner should not be allowed to kill themselves with hunger - I agree.  But I see you do not deny the quandary.  The starvation is just another tool to defy the jailer.  It's a no lose, right?  Die, you win, live you win...in every case Israel (and the US at Gitmo) will be blamed.  So I say okay, blame us.  No problem.  It really doesn't matter when the game is rigged anyway.  
I assume that you are saying the force feeding should be done to save their lives, yes?

  We've cast the world, we've set the stage,
  for what could be, the darkest age...

#14    The Silver Thong

The Silver Thong

    Forum Divinity

  • Member
  • 30,257 posts
  • Joined:02 Dec 2004
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Calgary Alberta Canada

Posted 12 July 2013 - 03:31 AM

This is force feeding and what one side trys to show as torture vs the other 2 little girls..

How embarrising what a propaganda bit Mos Def lol what a fool.

http://www.liveleak....=883_1373328649

Edited by The Silver Thong, 12 July 2013 - 03:32 AM.

Sittin back drinkin beer watchin the world take it's course.


The only thing god can't do is prove he exists ?

#15    The Silver Thong

The Silver Thong

    Forum Divinity

  • Member
  • 30,257 posts
  • Joined:02 Dec 2004
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Calgary Alberta Canada

Posted 12 July 2013 - 03:35 AM

View Postand then, on 12 July 2013 - 02:44 AM, said:

I do not care what someone like YOU thinks of me.  I will gladly stand before my Creator when the day comes.  And as to the premise that a prisoner should not be allowed to kill themselves with hunger - I agree.  But I see you do not deny the quandary.  The starvation is just another tool to defy the jailer.  It's a no lose, right?  Die, you win, live you win...in every case Israel (and the US at Gitmo) will be blamed.  So I say okay, blame us.  No problem.  It really doesn't matter when the game is rigged anyway.  
I assume that you are saying the force feeding should be done to save their lives, yes?

Leave god out of politics man.

Sittin back drinkin beer watchin the world take it's course.


The only thing god can't do is prove he exists ?




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users