Levi Posted July 18, 2005 #1 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Right this is my personal view but I believe that when it comes down to it - all religions have the same concept about there being a supreme overseeing being {God}, but each religion has been corrupted and changed by PEOPLE over many years but still possesses the original linking core, Think of it as a tree, the actual tree trunk as the "true" religion and then all the brances leading off from the tree are different religions that all have been changed and developed from the original but still hold the main essence of that links them Just my view, anyone else agree or disagree...post here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted July 18, 2005 #2 Share Posted July 18, 2005 I think religion is mans attempt to speak about the unspeakable, but it just doesn't do a very good job. I think it stared out controlling the masses , First Religion has to get you to lose faith in yourself, get you to believe that you need something that you yourself cannot find or fulfill. Second religion has tio get you to believe it has the answers and you don't. Third and this is very important Religion has to get you to except there "ANSWERS" as the "ONLY "answers. Where would religion be if people didn't "need" it, I say out of buisness, I think as a whole we need to let go of Religion. Namaste Sheri Berri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi Posted July 18, 2005 Author #3 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Controlling the masses....Have you read up on the Planet X - Sumerian story of religion?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted July 18, 2005 #4 Share Posted July 18, 2005 No Sumerian sounds familiart to me thru the Seth books Waht are these books you talk of??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi Posted July 18, 2005 Author #5 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Well Sitchin's series of books cover it, but just searching for websites on that subject is what I usually do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted July 18, 2005 #6 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Thanks, I have never heard of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacca Posted July 18, 2005 #7 Share Posted July 18, 2005 I don't believe in one god levi.....I don't follow one almighty, I also don't believe in Satan, or the bible......My faith/beliefs don't look anything like other religions at all, they have nothing in common.....I sometimes would say they aren't in the same forest never mind part of the same tree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stixxman Posted July 18, 2005 #8 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Religion did start out the same all over the world then it was corupted by the will of selfish men who saw it as a way to control the way people lived their lives. This gave a few people the power over many. Which is never good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essan Posted July 18, 2005 #9 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Jews, Christians and Muslims all worship the self same God - that of the Patriarch Abraham. Which I suppose is why they get on so well with one another...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watzel Posted July 18, 2005 #10 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Yes, getting rid of organized religious groups is the only way to be rid of the conflict they cause. Religion is really a abnormal cult that is detrimental to society. It has only a little to do with the truth about God and is mostly concerned with ensuring it's own survival. If all we need to know is the ten comandments, then what do we need with a church? It is time to seek a new way to God. And that should be personal and not public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eveningsky339 Posted July 18, 2005 #11 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Right this is my personal view but I believe that when it comes down to it - all religions have the same concept about there being a supreme overseeing being {God}, but each religion has been corrupted and changed by PEOPLE over many years but still possesses the original linking core, There are many different religions, all are different in one way or another. Some don't even faintly resemble one another. Monotheism Christianity/Catholicism Islam Judaism Gnosticism (sp) Satanism Most Native American Religions (Great Spirit) Deism Mormonism Jehovah's Witness Polytheism Buddhism Hinduism Greek Mythology Roman Mythology Egyptian Mythology Most Tribal African Religions Shintoism Taoism Naturalism Atheism Marxism/Leninism Agnosticism Scientism Postmodernism Secular Humanism Freudian Psychology Atheistic Evolution Socialism Secularism Existentialism Humanism Hedonism Nihilism Basically we can divide the different world views into three: Naturalism- The world as we see it Transcendentalism- The world as we want it Theism- The world from God's hand Naturalism Key beliefs 1) There is/are no God(s). 2) The universe is "self created" or has always existed. 3) Each person is a biological "machine". Key advantages 1) Do what you want; no external rules to follow. 2) Be what you want; determine your own meaning and purpose. 3) Solve it yourself; all problems have materialistic solutions. Transcendentalism Key beliefs 1) Everything is "god". 2) The universe is divine and has always existed. 3) Each person is part of the divine universe. Key advantages 1) Do what you want; no external rules to follow. 2) Be what you want; look within to determine your own meaning and purpose. 3) Solve it yourself; all problems have 'spiritual' solutions. Theism Key beliefs 1) A personal God exists. 2) The universe was created by God. 3) Each person is created in the image and likeness of God. Key Advantages 1) Do what God wants; follow God's will and character. 2) Be what God wants; God has given you meaning and purpose. 3) Let God solve it; all problems have ultimate solutions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted July 18, 2005 #12 Share Posted July 18, 2005 (edited) Could I add DEISM ???? Edited July 20, 2005 by Kismit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony de Lucchi Posted July 19, 2005 #13 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Right this is my personal view but I believe that when it comes down to it - all religions have the same concept about there being a supreme overseeing being {God}, but each religion has been corrupted and changed by PEOPLE over many years but still possesses the original linking core, Think of it as a tree, the actual tree trunk as the "true" religion and then all the brances leading off from the tree are different religions that all have been changed and developed from the original but still hold the main essence of that links them Just my view, anyone else agree or disagree...post here! 739174[/snapback] I think you have put it in a nutshell Levi. I agree with you. Somewhere in the distant past there was a Truth, but the further we have moved from the beginning the more clouded this truth has become. Unfortunately we have only the shadow of that truth and it is much more convenient to simply claim that it is all BS. In fact the ancient hebrews have kept their truth for roughly 6000 years without much variation. The Ancient Indians (Hindu) have a longer history of their truth but it is broken up into a kaliedascope of lesser disciplines either moving away or toward the same theme. The Christian truth comes directly out of the Hebrew belief. Islam again is more of the same it runs parallel to Judae/Christianity but lacks a direct connection. The many others Aztec/Inca/Egyptian are very much the same just names have been changed and this on careful study does mirror the Hindu concept. So maybe it might be safe to assume there are Three major thrusts in religious belief, The Judae/Christian The Hindu/Aztec/Inca/Egyptian of which the various Eastern religions seem to have their roots, even the greco/roman beliefs are simalar to the old Egyptian beliefs and out of these the other lesser known “pagan” beliefs seem to echo the same stuff. then the odd one in the pack is Islam Then again this is only my uneducated assumption Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eveningsky339 Posted July 19, 2005 #14 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Right this is my personal view but I believe that when it comes down to it - all religions have the same concept about there being a supreme overseeing being {God}, but each religion has been corrupted and changed by PEOPLE over many years but still possesses the original linking core, There are many different religions, all are different in one way or another. Some don't even faintly resemble one another. Monotheism Christianity/Catholicism Islam Judaism Gnosticism (sp) Satanism Most Native American Religions (Great Spirit) Deism Mormonism Jehovah's Witness Polytheism Buddhism Hinduism Greek Mythology Roman Mythology Egyptian Mythology Most Tribal African Religions Shintoism Taoism Naturalism Atheism Marxism/Leninism Agnosticism Scientism Postmodernism Secular Humanism Freudian Psychology Atheistic Evolution Socialism Secularism Existentialism Humanism Hedonism Nihilism Basically we can divide the different world views into three: Naturalism- The world as we see it Transcendentalism- The world as we want it Theism- The world from God's hand Naturalism Key beliefs 1) There is/are no God(s). 2) The universe is "self created" or has always existed. 3) Each person is a biological "machine". Key advantages 1) Do what you want; no external rules to follow. 2) Be what you want; determine your own meaning and purpose. 3) Solve it yourself; all problems have materialistic solutions. Transcendentalism Key beliefs 1) Everything is "god". 2) The universe is divine and has always existed. 3) Each person is part of the divine universe. Key advantages 1) Do what you want; no external rules to follow. 2) Be what you want; look within to determine your own meaning and purpose. 3) Solve it yourself; all problems have 'spiritual' solutions. Theism Key beliefs 1) A personal God exists. 2) The universe was created by God. 3) Each person is created in the image and likeness of God. Key Advantages 1) Do what God wants; follow God's will and character. 2) Be what God wants; God has given you meaning and purpose. 3) Let God solve it; all problems have ultimate solutions 740378[/snapback] Could I add DEISM ???? 740927[/snapback] I think I added that under the Monotheism section. Monotheism Christianity/Catholicism Islam Judaism Gnosticism Satanism Most Native American Religions (Great Spirit) Deism Mormonism Jehovah's Witness Yeah it's there. If I have excluded anything please tell me and I will add them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nlt_Overman Posted July 19, 2005 #15 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Right this is my personal view but I believe that when it comes down to it - all religions have the same concept about there being a supreme overseeing being {God}, but each religion has been corrupted and changed by PEOPLE over many years but still possesses the original linking core, Think of it as a tree, the actual tree trunk as the "true" religion and then all the brances leading off from the tree are different religions that all have been changed and developed from the original but still hold the main essence of that links them Just my view, anyone else agree or disagree...post here! 739174[/snapback] Wrong. Satanism doesn't have a god, or faith, or any entity. So, all religion doesn't have the same concept. There are many other examples. And there is no "true" religion, the term is an oxymoron, except when it involves Satanism. That's the only true religion. "All men are frauds. The only difference between them is some admit it. I myself deny it." - H. L. Mencken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nlt_Overman Posted July 19, 2005 #16 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Monotheism Christianity/Catholicism Islam Judaism Gnosticism (sp) Satanism Most Native American Religions (Great Spirit) Deism Mormonism Jehovah's Witness Your grouping of Satanism is wrong. And no, don't argue. Satanists are atheistic. Those other "satanists" are just inverted Christians playing bad guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodie.Lynne Posted July 20, 2005 #17 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Well, thats it. We can close up the churches and this forum. Nlt Overman has spoken. Welcome to the forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eveningsky339 Posted July 20, 2005 #18 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Fine I'll remove Satanism. *cries in a corner* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodie.Lynne Posted July 20, 2005 #19 Share Posted July 20, 2005 There there eveningsky >gives eveningsky an ice pop< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dang Posted July 21, 2005 #20 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Yes, getting rid of organized religious groups is the only way to be rid of the conflict they cause. 739909[/snapback] Oh for Pete's sake. RELIGION IS NOT A CAUSE FOR CONFLICTS! Religion is used as an "excuse......" for conflicts. Mankind is by nature evil! With or without religion we will continue to have our wars and battles. WWI & WWII the deadliest wars in modern history had nothing....NOTHING to do with religion. As a matter of fact, when was the last time we had a "religious war"? The Civil War? The Revolution War. Maybe the War of 1812? No no no. Nuts use religion for an excuse to bomb abortion clinics, fly planes in buildings, but despite what Dan Rather said this is just a drop in the bucket of the worlds conflicts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunZero Posted July 21, 2005 #21 Share Posted July 21, 2005 We don't need to create a book to control people, all they'd have to do is make laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dang Posted July 21, 2005 #22 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Right this is my personal view but I believe that when it comes down to it - all religions have the same concept about there being a supreme overseeing being {God}, but each religion has been corrupted and changed by PEOPLE over many years but still possesses the original linking core, There are many different religions, all are different in one way or another. Some don't even faintly resemble one another. Monotheism Christianity/Catholicism Islam Judaism Gnosticism (sp) Satanism Most Native American Religions (Great Spirit) Deism Mormonism Jehovah's Witness.... ] Mormons belive in more then one God. As a matter of fact if your a good Mormon who wears your nighty everynight without complaining you too will get your very own planet to be a god of. In other words, earth does have only one god, but there are other planets that have there own god also. I'm surprised you didn't know that. They hold thier conventions every year in Vegas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacca Posted July 21, 2005 #23 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Yes, getting rid of organized religious groups is the only way to be rid of the conflict they cause. 739909[/snapback] Oh for Pete's sake. RELIGION IS NOT A CAUSE FOR CONFLICTS! Religion is used as an "excuse......" for conflicts. Mankind is by nature evil! With or without religion we will continue to have our wars and battles. WWI & WWII the deadliest wars in modern history had nothing....NOTHING to do with religion. As a matter of fact, when was the last time we had a "religious war"? The Civil War? The Revolution War. Maybe the War of 1812? No no no. Nuts use religion for an excuse to bomb abortion clinics, fly planes in buildings, but despite what Dan Rather said this is just a drop in the bucket of the worlds conflicts. 745556[/snapback] Well since you asked about the last time there was a religious war....turn your tv on dude....Jihad or holy war all over the world as I write this....Is THAT current enough for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted July 21, 2005 #24 Share Posted July 21, 2005 (edited) Yes, getting rid of organized religious groups is the only way to be rid of the conflict they cause. 739909[/snapback] Oh for Pete's sake. RELIGION IS NOT A CAUSE FOR CONFLICTS! Religion is used as an "excuse......" for conflicts. Mankind is by nature evil! With or without religion we will continue to have our wars and battles. WWI & WWII the deadliest wars in modern history had nothing....NOTHING to do with religion. As a matter of fact, when was the last time we had a "religious war"? The Civil War? The Revolution War. Maybe the War of 1812? No no no. Nuts use religion for an excuse to bomb abortion clinics, fly planes in buildings, but despite what Dan Rather said this is just a drop in the bucket of the worlds conflicts. 745556[/snapback] Man is not evil by nature only religion teaches that, I strongly disagree with you as long as we have religion we will have conflict. Religion promotes the idea of fear, discrimination , racism, violence etc. Most of our wars are religious you only have to look at this deeply and you will see this fact. 9/11 was religious , they felt Allah wanted them to bomb New york. Edited July 21, 2005 by Sheri berri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaj Posted July 21, 2005 #25 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Religion is the reason for wars and conflicts and has always been. Religion is used as an excuse to do various things "in gods name"(allahs etc) Different names, same **** Any religion, I think is "good" would be Buddhism. Im not a religious person, but still think there is something somewhere. Religion should be personal and not forced on anyone. It is dangerous to think that you are doing the right thing when for example killing in gods name... Its like the crazy man killing because the voices in the head tells him to and he is doing humanity a favour. Different names, same ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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