Thistle Posted December 24, 2004 #1 Share Posted December 24, 2004 Where did you hear this Anson? To be honest it seems a bit far fatched to say the least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Something Like Laughter Posted December 24, 2004 #2 Share Posted December 24, 2004 i am fine with it as long as it is disabled when i buy it. i live in arkansas and the state is one of the larger US producers of meth, i can see it making it harder on the meth labs to get sudafed and other OTC drugs used in the manufactuing process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insight Posted December 25, 2004 #3 Share Posted December 25, 2004 The day I find a traking device in my system is the day I actually take up arms against our government. They have no right whatsoever to control us like that. I have the right to privacy, as long as I am not hurting anybody. We can't start putting up with this crap. Otherwise, our childrens future will be 1984/Logan's Run. I for one want my kids to enjoy all the freedoms and provacy I currently now enjoy. Hear this Canada/US? I for one am not going to stand for this. You'll have to kill me to get me to stop fighting against it. You guys have already gone to far. And people like me are not going to lay down and accept things. Get ready for war. We are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverCougar Posted December 25, 2004 #4 Share Posted December 25, 2004 I'm indifferent. Then again, I don't have to take viagra! MUHAHAHAHAHA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellar Posted December 25, 2004 #5 Share Posted December 25, 2004 Try typing in "microchips in viagra" into your search engine....you'll see related links. Lol, try typing in "George Bush is a shapeshifting alien monkey" and you'll see related links. They have no right whatsoever to control us like that. Heres one thing I find intriguing. What makes you think that the microchips would controle you? Hear this Canada/US? I for one am not going to stand for this. You'll have to kill me to get me to stop fighting against it. You guys have already gone to far. And people like me are not going to lay down and accept things. Get ready for war. We are. Oh I'm getting ready to put people like you down if you start causing problems. Im joining the reserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyuugaNeji Posted December 25, 2004 #6 Share Posted December 25, 2004 the thought of implanting a chip in you to know your exact location, find disese before it spreads, keep your medical record and other stuff like that. its all good on a small scale level, but think of the bigger picture (is it just to cure disese, or is it something else? ask questions, WHY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellar Posted December 25, 2004 #7 Share Posted December 25, 2004 hyuugaNeji: You can always find a reason not to have a chip, a phone, a phone number, a SIN # or an SSN #.... Even if its proven to be false, you can always say "Sure, thats what they want you to think." A chip to know my exact location? meh, I dont see a big deal in that, except for soldiers. I would get one if/when I become a soldier, but before that, I dont think I'd be willing to spend the time and money to go get one just so people can track me if I'm kidnapped. When other things come to play like scanning for diseases and such, I'll be fine with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted December 25, 2004 #8 Share Posted December 25, 2004 Good grief you people are so paranoid. The reason they are putting chips and such in medicines is to track the MEDICINE not you..... .....good lord.... The way it works is that when the medicine arrives at say Walmart or CVS the guys who check it in have a wand they scan over it. This activates a signal and shows that it is authentic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquatus1 Posted December 25, 2004 #9 Share Posted December 25, 2004 In all cases, I believe the chip referred to in the story a few months back was meant as a product tracker for mass produced medications, not for prescribed ones, which would be difficult to chip, as they tend to be far too small to insert anything within the pills themselves, and the bottles are stock with specific labels attached in situ as they are printed out by the pharmacist. There is currently no chip powerful enough to transmit anything from below your body's epidermal layer, than cannot be rather easily detected by a physical examination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellar Posted December 25, 2004 #10 Share Posted December 25, 2004 The way it works is that when the medicine arrives at say Walmart or CVS the guys who check it in have a wand they scan over it. This activates a signal and shows that it is authentic. Kind of like when they put some radioactive elements in your blood stream, nothing deadly, but just enough to be able to see how your blood flows. They used to do that, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenoftheNight Posted December 25, 2004 #11 Share Posted December 25, 2004 I would like a chip in case I was kidnapped. or sick. As long as I am not doing nothing wrong, or anything. Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquatus1 Posted December 25, 2004 #12 Share Posted December 25, 2004 I would like a chip in case I was kidnapped. or sick. As long as I am not doing nothing wrong, or anything. Right? 422588[/snapback] Well, they do sell GPS watches now. Big, honking things you put on your child's wrist and remotely activate if your child goes missing. Pretty darn useful for the parent, although a long way off from some internal tracking device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley-Star*Child Posted December 27, 2004 #13 Share Posted December 27, 2004 (edited) There are many tracking devices out there, but the one I recently heard about has me upset. I hear they are thinking of placing chips into medications. Though this might indeed help with illegal drug sales and such, I don't like the fact that not only my privacy is invaded, but that something could actually enter into my body. I saw where they are already putting these small chips into Viagra. How do you all feel about it? 420478[/snapback] What? Mircochipping for people. How dumb. You know several pets who get microchipped die or have serious health problems later all for the sake of 'tracking'. It should be abolished. There's a certain thing called privacy and they will be disrespecting that if they bring that in. Edited December 27, 2004 by Ashley-Star*Child Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquatus1 Posted December 27, 2004 #14 Share Posted December 27, 2004 Really? I haven't heard of a single pet who has ever had any sort of adverse side effect to chipping. After all, the chip doesn't even penetrate as deep as the standard splinter. You wouldn't have a source for this, would you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley-Star*Child Posted December 27, 2004 #15 Share Posted December 27, 2004 Really? I haven't heard of a single pet who has ever had any sort of adverse side effect to chipping. After all, the chip doesn't even penetrate as deep as the standard splinter. You wouldn't have a source for this, would you? 424242[/snapback] Honey, I'm talking from experience here. I didn't say it always happens, but it DOES happen. Even the vet we go to for our exotic persian is dead against it. He doesn't force microchipping because he's seen what it does, and has found loopholes in the law for it. It goes in near the spinal cord, it's sent dogs mad, cats ferral, (from pain no doubt), spinal problems, etc, and it does shorten their life span. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley-Star*Child Posted December 27, 2004 #16 Share Posted December 27, 2004 And, that aside, there were people appealing the law to make it mandatory, and so now, if your pet is registered as a show pet you are not obligated to microchip. Other than that, you cannot give away, sell, buy, ANY cat or dog without a microchip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquatus1 Posted December 27, 2004 #17 Share Posted December 27, 2004 Strange. Even on the internet I couldn't find any such accounts. The worst I found was a few who got some mild infections from improper placement, which were healed up with antibiotics. Certainly no deaths, or even feral psychosis. Bad luck on your part, I suppose. I hope your pet is feeling better. I'm assuming by experience, you meant your own, not somebody else's. Regardless, RFID atgs for food products are inevitable, if nothing else for the notoriously unnotorious desire to move throught the check-out counter faster at the local supermarket. Verichips for pets and people are simply modern version of pet tags and social security numbers which are far more secure then those we use today. If anything, they add to our privacy, rather than take it away. After all, identity theft is at an all-time high; these chips would all but do away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellar Posted December 27, 2004 #18 Share Posted December 27, 2004 Honey, I'm talking from experience here. You're talking from experience? You've had a chipped dog who died earlier and the only reason you could come up with was "it was chipped. The chip must have did it." I didn't say it always happens, but it DOES happen. Even the vet we go to for our exotic persian is dead against it. He doesn't force microchipping because he's seen what it does, and has found loopholes in the law for it. It goes in near the spinal cord, it's sent dogs mad, cats ferral, (from pain no doubt), spinal problems, etc, and it does shorten their life span. Mind showing me an article? I always heard that it was near the ears and such where there more skin to actually put it into, and not the spine where the skin is so thin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquatus1 Posted December 27, 2004 #19 Share Posted December 27, 2004 It is actually a little up from between the shoulder blades, where you got that nice thick handle of skin that you can grab on too (at least on animals on four legs). It doesn't get any closer to the spine than your skin does. Nor does it migrate, due to the special construction of the chip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellar Posted December 27, 2004 #20 Share Posted December 27, 2004 It is actually a little up from between the shoulder blades, where you got that nice thick handle of skin that you can grab on too (at least on animals on four legs). It doesn't get any closer to the spine than your skin does. Nor does it migrate, due to the special construction of the chip. 424839[/snapback] Thats what I meant. Its behind the ears there, since the ear is on an angle. \ / Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stankypookie Posted December 27, 2004 #21 Share Posted December 27, 2004 My granmama say when she was a slave that white folk put tracking chips in they slaves so they know if they picking cotton or running away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magikman Posted December 27, 2004 #22 Share Posted December 27, 2004 (edited) pookie, You haven't contributed anything but nonsense since joining this forum. Your posting privileges will be reinstated as soon as you can convince the administrator or a moderator that you have something of value to add to this board. MM Edited December 27, 2004 by Magikman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_Again Posted December 27, 2004 #23 Share Posted December 27, 2004 The blind, leading the blind is the correct phrase for this one - Anson Like I said in another thread, no one is putting a microchip in me - I'll die first Unless they do it and I'm not aware of it aquatus1 Posted Today, 02:56 PM If anything, they add to our privacy, rather than take it away. After all, identity theft is at an all-time high; these chips would all but do away with it. Would anyone like to steal my identity And sympathies, to anyone (human or animal) that has ever experienced that before New protest phrase: DON'T ACCEPT THE CHIP (are we computers or something else ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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