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Playing with fire? US set to deploy MISSILE ATTACK SUPERDRONES near North Korean border

THE US is set to deploy drones that can conduct “Hellfire” missile attacks right next to North Korea – just weeks after the rogue state successfully tested a hydrogen bomb.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/638367/US-North-Korea-Pyongyang-Pentagon-Kim-Jong-Un-Gray-Eagle-Drones-Missile-Seoul-South-Korea

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Considering how often they publicly threaten to bomb the U.S. with nuclear weapons, a little "just in case" placement of military assets isn't a bad thing.

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Personally I think any country with these weapons is as crazy as other countries who have them and as crazy as those who wants them.

The missiles ownership is the same as the gun ownership, but obviously on a much grander scale....."we have a right to have them and the right to defend ourselves". BUT remember, this is not how everyone sees it, but once you have one, and the others followed then of course, the job is done and has to be followed up continuously..until they all decide to get rid of them (cough) can`t see that ever happening.

This "right to defend ourselves" will be the death of us all one day.

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Just wait till Sparky gets his hands on these toys to prove a point ~

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Personally I think any country with these weapons is as crazy as other countries who have them and as crazy as those who wants them.

The missiles ownership is the same as the gun ownership, but obviously on a much grander scale....."we have a right to have them and the right to defend ourselves". BUT remember, this is not how everyone sees it, but once you have one, and the others followed then of course, the job is done and has to be followed up continuously..until they all decide to get rid of them (cough) can`t see that ever happening.

This "right to defend ourselves" will be the death of us all one day.

That's An interesting comparison that I don't really agree with.

Everyone would love to get rid of all of the wepons of mass destruction. The problem is no one is going to do it until we actually trust everyone else will.

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That's An interesting comparison that I don't really agree with.

Everyone would love to get rid of all of the wepons of mass destruction. The problem is no one is going to do it until we actually trust everyone else will.

Not sure everyone does want to get rid of them....they are big money for some people and some others think it gives them bigger balls. :gun: :gun: :gun: :gun:

As for the bold...absolutely correct. I did have something similar as one of my profile quotes. Can we trust that they will all get rid of them? absolute not IMO. = this takes us back to the bigger balls bit. :no:

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So they are deploying Drones with missiles that can take out small groups of soft skin vehicles and people or one, perhaps 2 (depending on how lucky of a shot they are) hard skin vehicles.

Not much of a deterrent against nuclear weapons...

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So they are deploying Drones with missiles that can take out small groups of soft skin vehicles and people or one, perhaps 2 (depending on how lucky of a shot they are) hard skin vehicles.

Not much of a deterrent against nuclear weapons...

A quick check of Wikipedia suggests there are anti-tank and anti-helicopter versions of that missile, and the quoted articles suggests they're the versions mounted on the drones.

Given that the people in charge of North Korea know that if they start a war their relatively pleasant lifestyle will come to an end, it seems unlikely that they're either going to invade anyone or attempt to fire a missile or drop a nuclear weapon on anyone. Given that both the South Koreans and Americans know this too, perhaps there are reasons other than purely military behind the Americans' actions - perhaps something political in South Korea, or something involving the alliance between the two countries, or even some sort of diplomatic signal to the North Koreans or some faction in the NK government or military.

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A quick check of Wikipedia suggests there are anti-tank and anti-helicopter versions of that missile, and the quoted articles suggests they're the versions mounted on the drones.

Given that the people in charge of North Korea know that if they start a war their relatively pleasant lifestyle will come to an end, it seems unlikely that they're either going to invade anyone or attempt to fire a missile or drop a nuclear weapon on anyone. Given that both the South Koreans and Americans know this too, perhaps there are reasons other than purely military behind the Americans' actions - perhaps something political in South Korea, or something involving the alliance between the two countries, or even some sort of diplomatic signal to the North Koreans or some faction in the NK government or military.

I like the way youre thinking. Perhaps just an excuse to move some toys into China's neighborhood considering the p***ing match brewing over the islands out there?

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So they are deploying Drones with missiles that can take out small groups of soft skin vehicles and people or one, perhaps 2 (depending on how lucky of a shot they are) hard skin vehicles.

Not much of a deterrent against nuclear weapons...

It is if the finger attached to the person pushing the nuclear attack button has been blown several miles away from it's original body...

This "right to defend ourselves" will be the death of us all one day.

As opposed to not being able to defend ourselves? Please think about that for a moment.

It's just better to have the ability to defend one's self instead of not.

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As opposed to not being able to defend ourselves? Please think about that for a moment.

It's just better to have the ability to defend one's self instead of not.

Of course, but think about it both ways for a moment.

What I really meant was some are "defending" their selves with bigger and more dangerous weapons, which in the end with be the death of us all if these monstrous "defenders" ever get pushed......Where do you draw the line, or is there no line as long as there is a want for bigger and better and more deadly weapons?

I do not trust any of the countries which have missiles, especially America....we all know they would use them..............................again.

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Of course, but think about it both ways for a moment.

What I really meant was some are "defending" their selves with bigger and more dangerous weapons, which in the end with be the death of us all if these monstrous "defenders" ever get pushed......Where do you draw the line, or is there no line as long as there is a want for bigger and better and more deadly weapons?

I do not trust any of the countries which have missiles, especially America....we all know they would use them..............................again.

Escalation. It happens. And the line is instantly drawn when the escalation begins. Ever heard of MAD (mutually assured destruction)? It's a very fine way to keep all sides from actually attacking each other with the worst weapons available.

And as for America "using them again"....when have they use nuclear missiles in the first place? If you're referring to Japan in WWII, those weren't missiles, AND the use of those saved many more lives than the alternative. And someone had to use them the first time, to show the rest of us how horrible they are. Be glad that it was the US and not some other country that would definitely abuse their use. But that's a touchy subject for another thread.

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Escalation. It happens. And the line is instantly drawn when the escalation begins. Ever heard of MAD (mutually assured destruction)? It's a very fine way to keep all sides from actually attacking each other with the worst weapons available.

And as for America "using them again"....when have they use nuclear missiles in the first place? If you're referring to Japan in WWII, those weren't missiles, AND the use of those saved many more lives than the alternative. And someone had to use them the first time, to show the rest of us how horrible they are. Be glad that it was the US and not some other country that would definitely abuse their use. But that's a touchy subject for another thread.

Yes I was referring to Japan = the bomb.

certainly this is for another thread, cos I can not agree with the saved more lives.

The whole point is NO ONE should ever had used them ever, who gave America the right to " show the rest of us how horrible they are" ? = the answer is not "look how horrendously horrible we can be back!"

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I like the way youre thinking. Perhaps just an excuse to move some toys into China's neighborhood considering the p***ing match brewing over the islands out there?

This. If any one ever wondered why we haven't just popped Kim Jung Whatever's head off his shoulders, consider China. China has been sheltering this dark regime for some time, once again creating a proxy situation similar to the middle east. Their guys bordering our guys.

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Looks like I'm running off outdated information.

China and North Korea have, in the past, enjoyed close diplomatic relations. However, China-North Korea relations have declined markedly over the past few years. The decline in China-North Korea relations is primarily due to growing concern in China over issues such as North Korea's nuclear weapons program and its impoundment of Chinese fishing boats. [1]

China maintains an embassy in the North Korean capital of Pyongyang and a consulate general in Chongjin. [2] The Embassy of North Korea in China is located in Beijing's Chaoyang District, while a consulate general is in Shenyang.

Favorable views of North Korea among Chinese people appear to be receding as well. According to a 2014 BBC World Service Poll, 20% of Chinese people view North Korea's influence positively, with 46% expressing a negative view.[3]

However..

China's economic assistance to North Korea accounts for about half of all foreign aid. Beijing provides the aid directly to Pyongyang, thereby enabling it to bypass the United Nations.

During the period of severe food shortage between 1996 and 1998, Beijing provided unconditional food aid to North Korea.[17]

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Yes I was referring to Japan = the bomb.

certainly this is for another thread, cos I can not agree with the saved more lives.

The whole point is NO ONE should ever had used them ever, who gave America the right to " show the rest of us how horrible they are" ? = the answer is not "look how horrendously horrible we can be back!"

I guess we'll save this debate and showing you how wrong this position is about the use of atomic weapons for another thread then. And I won't post anything else about it in this thread. That's it.

And as for this thread...a show of strength has been a common way to deter aggression. It all depends on how crazy, desperate and confident the Norks think they are.

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