DaKong Posted March 1, 2005 #1 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Hey just want to know what you guys think about Heaven and Hell and where we're gonig. I mean, it's a bit arrogant to automatically assume we're going to heaven. I mean, okay, so Jesus did die for us, and He may have forgiven our sins, but still, we can't assume that okay He died for us so we're going to Heaven. Just wanna know what you guys think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajagsfairy Posted March 1, 2005 #2 Share Posted March 1, 2005 I believe that there are many levels of heaven and many levels of hell. People go to whatever one that fits to where they are spiritually and where they are on their learning process as well as where they choose to go as well. Blessings, Jo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absinthegreen329 Posted March 1, 2005 #3 Share Posted March 1, 2005 I believe that when we die we go to wherever we believe we go. Such as Heaven, Hell, reincarnation, or no where at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightbeyondthedark Posted March 1, 2005 #4 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Well personally I believe I am going to heaven... Can't really say where anyone else is going... just my humble opinion... LBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaKong Posted March 1, 2005 Author #5 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Well personally I believe I am going to heaven... Can't really say where anyone else is going... just my humble opinion... LBD 506073[/snapback] Interesting opinions, but LBD no offence but how can you assume that you're automatically going to Heaven? We've all comitted a serious sin in our lives, whether we believe it or not, so it's just kinda arrogant that we assume we're going to Heaven. No offence. I respect your beliefs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4P3R T1G3R2 Posted March 1, 2005 #6 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Well personally I believe I am going to heaven... Can't really say where anyone else is going... just my humble opinion... LBD 506073[/snapback] Interesting opinions, but LBD no offence but how can you assume that you're automatically going to Heaven? We've all comitted a serious sin in our lives, whether we believe it or not, so it's just kinda arrogant that we assume we're going to Heaven. No offence. I respect your beliefs 506085[/snapback] Maybe because he has faith in Christ and he accepted him as his personal Lord and savior. It's true we all commit sin, but as Christian we progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaKong Posted March 1, 2005 Author #7 Share Posted March 1, 2005 You're right. Sorry if I insulted any one . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightbeyondthedark Posted March 1, 2005 #8 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Interesting opinions, but LBD no offence but how can you assume that you're automatically going to Heaven? We've all comitted a serious sin in our lives, whether we believe it or not, so it's just kinda arrogant that we assume we're going to Heaven. No offence. I respect your beliefs 506085[/snapback] No offence taken... And thanks for the respect, that goes a long way with me... Yes, I believ I am going to heaven becasue Jesus is my savior... Yes, I sin every day, but I am forgiven... just my humble opinion... LBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley-Star*Child Posted March 1, 2005 #9 Share Posted March 1, 2005 I believe that there are many levels of heaven and many levels of hell. People go to whatever one that fits to where they are spiritually and where they are on their learning process as well as where they choose to go as well. Blessings, Jo 506068[/snapback] You are correct. 10 Levels of Heaven (the 7th split into 3 parts) and just as many hells. However, humans go to the 3rd Heaven, which is an Eden Paradise, and on the other side of that 3rd Heaven is the human hell. The rest is mainly for angels, and God. And DaKong, you're right, you can't assume you'll go to Heaven, you can only hope. However, there is also a place called Pergatory, another word for Sheol, in which people's souls sleep instead of going to either Heaven or Hell. There's also reincarnation, which doesn't cut out any of the above. You can either chose to come back if you're in a position to do so, or if you are lucky enough, be sent back with the chance to right whatever you did wrong the last time. Before that happens, you would have had to have been in one of the above places....and especially in the case of hell, endured it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaKong Posted March 1, 2005 Author #10 Share Posted March 1, 2005 I believe that there are many levels of heaven and many levels of hell. People go to whatever one that fits to where they are spiritually and where they are on their learning process as well as where they choose to go as well. Blessings, Jo 506068[/snapback] You are correct. 10 Levels of Heaven (the 7th split into 3 parts) and just as many hells. However, humans go to the 3rd Heaven, which is an Eden Paradise, and on the other side of that 3rd Heaven is the human hell. The rest is mainly for angels, and God. And DaKong, you're right, you can't assume you'll go to Heaven, you can only hope. However, there is also a place called Pergatory, another word for Sheol, in which people's souls sleep instead of going to either Heaven or Hell. There's also reincarnation, which doesn't cut out any of the above. You can either chose to come back if you're in a position to do so, or if you are lucky enough, be sent back with the chance to right whatever you did wrong the last time. Before that happens, you would have had to have been in one of the above places....and especially in the case of hell, endured it. 506136[/snapback] Interesting points. Is that where they came up with the show title '7th Heaven?' I remember reading about Sheol in the Bible a few times (I read the Bible every year and learn something new each time!!! ), but I never recalled it being something like Limbo. I think it was somewhere in Isaiah when I read the phrase 'Sheol shall be their home.' It's my favorite Bible verse, in fact! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_hAiLO_ Posted March 1, 2005 #11 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Your making me think of heaven/hell as a big network of rooms, places and people like how communities are on earth...except more complex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4P3R T1G3R2 Posted March 1, 2005 #12 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Your making me think of heaven/hell as a big network of rooms, places and people like how communities are on earth...except more complex 506161[/snapback] lol, I don't think i remembered reading in the Bible of all these levels. Any verse? In heaven we become a spirit, pure and live with Chirst forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley-Star*Child Posted March 1, 2005 #13 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Your making me think of heaven/hell as a big network of rooms, places and people like how communities are on earth...except more complex It is. Like I said Heaven is in space, it does have a physical existence. lol, I don't think i remembered reading in the Bible of all these levels. Any verse? In heaven we become a spirit, pure and live with Chirst forever Ok, the verses are vaguely in the Bible, like sheol, Tartarus (that's actually an angel's hell) etc. When Jesus showed the disciples Heaven with the prophets, that was the 3rd Heaven. It's written in Enoch and most of the books which didn't get included. Enoch however, was included up to the 4th century. Some of it is also is Hebrew and is still accepted and known about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellar Posted March 1, 2005 #14 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Heaven doesnt exist, hence I dont assume I'm going there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaKong Posted March 1, 2005 Author #15 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Heaven doesnt exist, hence I dont assume I'm going there. 506190[/snapback] Wow. Are you an aetheist or something? Maybe that's why your such a skeptic... no offence. It says in the Bible that anyone not believing in God, Jesus, or His Throne (Heaven) is the one sin that cannot be forgiven. You've just committed that sin. It's all about Jesus, man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4P3R T1G3R2 Posted March 1, 2005 #16 Share Posted March 1, 2005 It says in the Bible that anyone not believing in God, Jesus, or His Throne (Heaven) is the one sin that cannot be forgiven. You've just committed that sin. It's all about Jesus, man! 506200[/snapback] His sig gives it away, hence we have a mental disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellar Posted March 1, 2005 #17 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Wow. Are you an aetheist or something? Maybe that's why your such a skeptic... no offence. Umm... yes... It says in the Bible that anyone not believing in God, Jesus, or His Throne (Heaven) is the one sin that cannot be forgiven. You've just committed that sin. It's all about Jesus, man! And you know what? You've committed a sin also, by not believing the raelians. Hence, you will not live forever. Its all about the Elohim, man! His sig gives it away, hence we have a mental disease. sh**, thats still in there? That was a retaliation for something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaKong Posted March 1, 2005 Author #18 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Wow. Are you an aetheist or something? Maybe that's why your such a skeptic... no offence. Umm... yes... It says in the Bible that anyone not believing in God, Jesus, or His Throne (Heaven) is the one sin that cannot be forgiven. You've just committed that sin. It's all about Jesus, man! And you know what? You've committed a sin also, by not believing the raelians. Hence, you will not live forever. Its all about the Elohim, man! His sig gives it away, hence we have a mental disease. sh**, thats still in there? That was a retaliation for something else. 506207[/snapback] Raelians?! Haven't head of them... Oh and it's okay about your sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellar Posted March 1, 2005 #19 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Raelians?! Haven't head of them... Then you're going to die and there wont be an afterlife for you. Its all about the Elohim, man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaKong Posted March 1, 2005 Author #20 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Raelians?! Haven't head of them... Then you're going to die and there wont be an afterlife for you. Its all about the Elohim, man! 506215[/snapback] Umm what are raelians and what's Elohim? Sorry... don't know... c'mon I'm trying to be nice here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellar Posted March 1, 2005 #21 Share Posted March 1, 2005 http://www.rael.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaKong Posted March 1, 2005 Author #22 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Wow very interesting site... now that I think about it they do have sufficient evidence that it could've been a comet that brought life to Earth... God sent that comet, I'm sure of it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack0fhearts Posted March 1, 2005 #23 Share Posted March 1, 2005 I believe that there are many levels of heaven and many levels of hell. People go to whatever one that fits to where they are spiritually and where they are on their learning process as well as where they choose to go as well. Blessings, Jo 506068[/snapback] I wouldn't think there were more than one level of heaven or hell, or a hell at all. I would have to say that even though God might be perfect and all, but how would he know about where we've earnt to go? Everything we've done is supported by a reason, which is because of another reason of another reason. How can you say one is evil when you wouldn't know the circumstance of that person from beginning to the present? I believe every sinner is accounted for through prior happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4dplane Posted March 1, 2005 #24 Share Posted March 1, 2005 It says in the Bible that anyone not believing in God, Jesus, or His Throne (Heaven) is the one sin that cannot be forgiven. You've just committed that sin. It's all about Jesus, man! Can someone please tell me where in the bible it says this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaKong Posted March 1, 2005 Author #25 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Wow that was deep. And true, too... I just found out that there's a Scottish city called 'Hell.' Wow, that's gotta be one big city when you think about it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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