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[skyeagle409]

Babe Ruth, on 05 February 2013 - 02:43 PM, said:

They do not, Sky.  And some fraudulent White House story does not make it so.  Even a Hollywood movie does not make it so.

Burial at sea is permitted under certain circumstances under Islam, and Mr. Reality says that bin Laden is lying in a watery grave.

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Burial at sea in accordance with Islamic customs

The sacred texts of Islam prefer burial on land, so deep that its smell does not come out and the beasts of prey do not dig it out. However, if a person dies at sea and it is not possible to bring the body back to land before decay, burial at sea is allowed. A weight is tied to the feet of the body, and the body is lowered into the water. This would preferably occur in an area where the remains are not immediately eaten by scavengers. Also, if an enemy may dig up the grave to mutilate the body, it is also allowed to bury the deceased at sea to avoid mutilation.

http://www.al-islam....aws/burial.html

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That subplot of the story was created ONLY so they would not have to produce a body.  Because there was no body of OBL at Abbottabad, because he had already been dead for years.

How could bin Laden have been dead for years when he challenged President Obama in 2009?

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Osama Bin Laden Challenges Obama In Tape

CAIRO, Egypt — Osama bin Laden urged Muslims to launch a jihad against Israel, seeking to harness anger over the Gaza offensive with a new message posted on the Internet on Wednesday. The al-Qaida chief vowed to open "new fronts" against the U.S. and its allies beyond Iraq and Afghanistan and also criticized Arab leaders, accusing most of them of being allies of the U.S. and Israel.

The White House dismissed the call to jihad, saying it reflects bin Laden's isolation and shows he is trying to remain relevant at a time when his ideology and mission are being challenged. Bin Laden spoke in a 22-minute audiotape posted on Islamic militant Web sites where al-Qaida usually issues its messages. The 51-year-old al-Qaida leader has been in hiding since the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, believed to be living somewhere along the lawless Pakistan-Afghan border.

It was bin Laden's first tape since May and came nearly three weeks after Israel launched the offensive against Hamas that Gaza medical officials say has killed more than 1,000 Palestinians. He said President-elect Barack Obama has received a "heavy inheritance" from George W. Bush _ two wars and "the collapse of the economy." He predicted that burden will render the U.S. unable to sustain a long fight against the mujahedeen, or holy warriors.

http://www.huffingto...a_n_157755.html


New Bin Laden Tape Blast Obama

A new audio tape from Osama bin Laden criticizes President Barack Obama for planting seeds of "hatred and vengeance toward Americans" and warns of "new long wars."

The tape, aired on Arabic news network al Jazeera Wednesday, blasts the U.S. president for his role in Pakistan's military operation against Taliban forces in the Swat Valley. The message came as Mr. Obama touched down in Saudi Arabia on the first leg of a Mideast trip to shore up diplomatic relations in the region.

You knew all along that bin Laden was killed by US forces, so once again, you got caught in the act of trying to deceive people and your feeble deception attempt is just another reason why you cannot be taken seriously.

Edited by skyeagle409, 05 February 2013 - 06:52 PM.

[Babe Ruth]

That's funny Sky!  My friendly retired USAF crew chief, master of links of deception, is now also an authority on Islam.

[skyeagle409]

Babe Ruth, on 05 February 2013 - 10:31 PM, said:

That's funny Sky!

Let's just say: That's reality! BTW, I was more than just a DCC.

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My friendly retired USAF crew chief, master of links of deception, is now also an authority on Islam.

How amusing when bin Laden's tape was printed in newspapers addressing President Obama around the globe and look what you posted!!   As I have said before, your feeble deception attempts are plain for all to see.

Now, let's take another look which will prove my point about your deception routine.

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The Muslim Faith, Burial at Sea and Cremation

623. If a person dies on a ship and if there is no fear of the decay of the dead body and if there is no problem in retaining it for sometime on the ship, it should be kept on it and buried in the ground after reaching the land. Otherwise, after giving Ghusl, Hunut, Kafan and Namaz-e-Mayyit it should be lowered into the sea in a vessel of clay or with a weight tied to its feet. And as far as possible it should not be lowered at a point where it is eaten up immediately by the sea predators.

624. If it is feared that an enemy may dig up the grave and exhume the dead body and amputate its ears or nose or other limbs, it should be lowered into sea, if possible, as stated in the foregoing rule.

http://www.seaservices.com/Muslim.htm

In other words,  you have been proven wrong again! I am not the only person who have noted your feeble attempts at deception. Other people have noticed and made it known about your attempts at deception as well.

Edited by skyeagle409, 05 February 2013 - 11:47 PM.

[Babe Ruth]

skyeagle409, on 05 February 2013 - 11:42 PM, said:

Let's just say: That's reality! BTW, I was more than just a DCC.



How amusing when bin Laden's tape was printed in newspapers addressing President Obama around the globe and look what you posted!!   As I have said before, your feeble deception attempts are plain for all to see.

Now, let's take another look which will prove my point about your deception routine.



In other words,  you have been proven wrong again! I am not the only person who have noted your feeble attempts at deception. Other people have noticed and made it known about your attempts at deception as well.

Hardly Sky.  Assuming your text above is true and accurate, please note the first several words of 623.  Then, get out your map and consider that Abbottabad is not a ship at sea.  Quite the opposite, it is fairly high mountainous terrain.

[skyeagle409]

Babe Ruth, on 06 February 2013 - 06:54 PM, said:

Hardly Sky.  Assuming your text above is true and accurate, please note the first several words of 623.  Then, get out your map and consider that Abbottabad is not a ship at sea.

You seem to have forgotten that the body of Osama bin Laden was in the custody of the United States.

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NOTE: 624.

"If it is feared that an enemy may dig up the grave and exhume the dead body and amputate its ears or nose or other limbs, it should be lowered into sea, if possible, as stated in the foregoing rule."

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Understand the USS Carl Vinson was nowhere near Abbottabad.

Edited by skyeagle409, 06 February 2013 - 08:17 PM.

[Babe Ruth]

The body of OBL was bone and ash, sir.  He had died in 2001 and was buried somewhere over there, I think Pakistan, IN ACCORDANCE WITH proper muslim rules.

You have fallen for a politically motivated hoax, yet again.

[Zaphod222]

skyeagle409, on 06 February 2013 - 08:03 PM, said:

Understand the USS Carl Vinson was nowhere near Abbottabad.

And that would be quite some feat, since Abbottabad is nowhere near the ocean.

Duh..

[Zaphod222]

Babe Ruth, on 07 February 2013 - 02:21 PM, said:

The body of OBL was bone and ash, sir.  He had died in 2001 and was buried somewhere over there, I think Pakistan, IN ACCORDANCE WITH proper muslim rules.

You have fallen for a politically motivated hoax, yet again.

Ah. How interesting. Especially since cremation is banned under muslim rules.
Can you explain the "bone and ash" part, Mr. Conspiracy expert?

[Babe Ruth]

Zaphod222, on 07 February 2013 - 02:38 PM, said:

Ah. How interesting. Especially since cremation is banned under muslim rules.
Can you explain the "bone and ash" part, Mr. Conspiracy expert?

Ashes to ashes, dust to dust.  I should have used the word 'dust' in the previous post.

I meant to say that when the Abbottabad raid was conducted, the body of OBL was not in the custody of the US government, in was in the natural state of a decomposed body, however you want to describe it, because the man had died and was buried back in 2001, according to at least one Pakistani news source.

[skyeagle409]

Babe Ruth, on 07 February 2013 - 02:21 PM, said:

The body of OBL was bone and ash, sir.  He had died in 2001 and was buried somewhere over there, I think Pakistan, IN ACCORDANCE WITH proper muslim rules.

You have fallen for a politically motivated hoax, yet again.

Let's just say, FACTS!!

[skyeagle409]

Babe Ruth, on 07 February 2013 - 08:08 PM, said:

I meant to say that when the Abbottabad raid was conducted, the body of OBL was not in the custody of the US government,...

Apparently, the body of Osama bin Laden was taken into US custody after the raid.

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It’s a Match: How Officials Used DNA to Identify bin Laden

The Obama Administration used several methods, including DNA testing, to confirm that U.S. Navy Seals did in fact kill Osama bin Laden in a weekend raid in Pakistan, U.S. officials said on Monday.

In addition to facial-recognition techniques, analysis of photos by the CIA and confirmation from people at the site of the raid ­(quoting a senior U.S. defense official, CNN reported that “one of bin Laden’s own wives identified his body to U.S. forces, after the team made visual identification themselves”), DNA from the body was matched to confirm bin Laden’s identity.

http://healthland.ti...tify-bin-laden/

Edited by skyeagle409, 07 February 2013 - 08:30 PM.

[DONTEATUS]

Now we all know that BR is Insaine ! IMO Bin Laden is Fish Food !

[skyeagle409]

DONTEATUS, on 07 February 2013 - 09:38 PM, said:

Now we all know that BR is Insaine ! IMO Bin Laden is Fish Food !

I  think that BR knows that bin Laden was buried at sea, and it is known that BR has been pushing false information on a regular basis.

Edited by skyeagle409, 07 February 2013 - 09:42 PM.

[chopmo]

I'm still suss on he's probally driving a taxi in New York somewhere. Just seemed to good to be true considering how much they blasted the Sadam and Gadhafi captures and murders they were more than happy to disgrace and show humiliating photos of their final hours. But Osama was fed to the sharks with laserbeam attachments on their heads that **** cotton candy :S... but seriously after talking game for over 10 years and embarrasment he caused america (if the storys are actually true to start with), there's no chance in hell they would have just dumped him. Look at how badly they were trying to get garry mckinna and how badly they are STILL trying to get julian assange. My biggest question is why weren't all 3 men brought before the world court and charged with war crimes. END OF STORY.
If they have failed to do that in the first place like they should have. instead of ramsacking another country and stealing an individual and holding him captive in a foriegn state then kill them at home/"on the way home". they have failed to make a believable story. FFS they weren't even allowed to pull that **** against Castro, Kim Jong, Hitler or Cold War bad guys.

[DONTEATUS]

ITs gotten really Old !