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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:55 PM

View Postsynchronomy, on 06 October 2012 - 07:49 PM, said:

What I meant to imply was that if ET's are wearing human attire, it doesn't mean they're not ET's.  I suppose we often assume they may look like Lady Gaga.  Maybe they dress deliberately to blend in with us in case they have a need or a desire to "mingle" with the locals.
Very much so, I'd say, it is after all the basic rule of surveillance, if that was what their intention was. It needn't even for sinister ends; if one was carrying out a thorough study of some culture, it'd make sense to try to blend in as far as possible, since it's well known that knowing that you're being observed makes whatever's being observed behave unnaturally.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:58 PM

I've heard Bob Dean say some of them could be walking around in the Pentagon right now...that they are very similar to us.
I'm not sure about the truth in his testimony, but he certainly sounds convincing to me.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:59 PM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 06 October 2012 - 07:23 PM, said:

I have checked it many times.  One researcher even made a video of the radar data that showed military planes conducting maneuvers in the area before the UFO showed up, both visually and on radar.  Both visual and radar reports confirm the existence of this large UFO, which in no way, shape or form was a temperature inversion.  It could not have been, although since it had no transponders they could not identify it as one of theirs.




MUFON investigator Robert Powell, who analyzed the original radar data from FOIA records with Glen Schulze, notes the planes that cross the UFO’s path as it nears Crawford are likely at high altitudes of maybe 30,000 feet and says they’re non-military craft. Which raises the question (again): Where the hell is security when a bogey without a transponder sets a head-on course for restricted air space over the former Western White House? Recent history indicates the law doesn’t necessarily wait ‘til an intruder violates the no-fly zone to pounce.


http://www.google.co...BFDp4lf29xZax4Q
Once again, check data by yourself, and I don't give a rats munch of what Mr.Powell or Schulze say, I don't... Neither should you...Well, if you dont trust me, maybe Mr.Powell or/and Schulze will explain you why there are so many uncorellated skin paints?

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 08:01 PM

View Postsynchronomy, on 06 October 2012 - 07:58 PM, said:

I've heard Bob Dean say some of them could be walking around in the Pentagon right now...that they are very similar to us.
I'm not sure about the truth in his testimony, but he certainly sounds convincing to me.


If they really are here and looking around, interacting with us and so forth, then that's exactly what any intelligent civilization would do, rather than walking around with three legs and two heads.


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Posted 06 October 2012 - 08:01 PM

View Postzoser, on 06 October 2012 - 07:54 PM, said:

Sakari if you have never heard of UFO's interfering with car engines then you haven't seriously researched the cases.  Betty and Barney Hill for a start.  

Just scan this:

http://www.nicap.org...s/ufointerf.htm

I read about them when I was 13, and know of them well...I also know of the claims, I was being half a smart ass, humor, jokingly asking for " thousands " of names.

You still are not answering me about " imagination ". It does take " imagination " as you yourself said to " believe " that every single claim is a bonified flying saucer.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 08:02 PM

View Postbmk1245, on 06 October 2012 - 07:59 PM, said:

Once again, check data by yourself, and I don't give a rats munch of what Mr.Powell or Schulze say, I don't... Neither should you...Well, if you dont trust me, maybe Mr.Powell or/and Schulze will explain you why there are so many uncorellated skin paints?

Because there are uncorrelated targets, to use the military term.


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Posted 06 October 2012 - 08:05 PM

View Postsynchronomy, on 06 October 2012 - 07:58 PM, said:

I've heard Bob Dean say some of them could be walking around in the Pentagon right now...that they are very similar to us.
I'm not sure about the truth in his testimony, but he certainly sounds convincing to me.
from what I've seen of politicians, I can very well believe that .... :innocent:

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 08:07 PM

View Postbmk1245, on 06 October 2012 - 07:59 PM, said:

Once again, check data by yourself, and I don't give a rats munch of what Mr.Powell or Schulze.

If they agreed with you, then you'd be on here saying they were the greatest minds since Einstein.

Edited by TheMacGuffin, 06 October 2012 - 08:08 PM.


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Posted 06 October 2012 - 08:09 PM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 06 October 2012 - 08:02 PM, said:

Because there are uncorrelated targets, to use the military term.
So, how many "targets" do you see, in say 220Z-2230Z, or in 0000Z-0030Z, huh?

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 08:15 PM

View Post747400, on 06 October 2012 - 08:05 PM, said:

from what I've seen of politicians, I can very well believe that .... :innocent:
Hmmm... Polititians... They are the same as you and me, i.e. gready (don't tell me you despise money) b*******.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 08:16 PM

View Postbmk1245, on 06 October 2012 - 08:09 PM, said:

So, how many "targets" do you see, in say 220Z-2230Z, or in 0000Z-0030Z, huh?

I have no idea what you see, but I see military aircraft clearly doing some kind of exercise and then then unknowns are being tracked on radar and also visually.  Unless you can ever get hold of the classified documents on the case, that's about all you're ever going to know.

Or are you another one of those who just refuses to watch the videos, even when you specifically ask for "data"  LOL

When I post it, then you say you don't care about it at all, which tends to make this a completely pointless and one-sided discussion.

Edited by TheMacGuffin, 06 October 2012 - 08:19 PM.


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Posted 06 October 2012 - 08:19 PM

View Postsynchronomy, on 06 October 2012 - 07:58 PM, said:

I've heard Bob Dean say some of them could be walking around in the Pentagon right now...that they are very similar to us.
I'm not sure about the truth in his testimony, but he certainly sounds convincing to me.

The concept of Bob Dean's claim that 'Aliens are among us' is in my view quite conceivable!...But I wouldn't put any stock into what the shyster claims to have personal knowledge of!... imo,..He is one of the charlatans that populate the UFO/ET genre!


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Posted 06 October 2012 - 08:21 PM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 06 October 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

If they agreed with you, then you'd be on here saying they were the greatest minds since Einstein.
:huh:
Ok, Ainstain, once again, how many skin returns do you see in 30 mins? What are those?

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 08:28 PM

View Postbmk1245, on 06 October 2012 - 08:21 PM, said:

:huh:
Ok, Ainstain, once again, how many skin returns do you see in 30 mins? What are those?

How many do you see here?

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 08:31 PM

And here?

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