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Did Japanese fishermen discover America?

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#1    Big Bad Voodoo

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 06:51 PM

http://ohio-archaeol...er-america.html


During late 1960, Estrada undertook a large excavation at Valdivia, which provided a much bigger sample of pottery from the earliest levels. The following spring, he wrote us a letter with a novel suggestion. He had encountered a report on the Jomon pottery of Japan and observed that many of the techniques and motifs of decoration were similar to those of Valdivia.

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 07:00 PM

Too many building techniques and ones like this shared by the world for it to be a coincidence.  I bet ancient man got around more than we think or there really were aliens influencing them.


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Posted 21 May 2013 - 07:16 PM

It seems like every year we get a story about "Did (fill in the blank) discover America?"...  Maybe they should ask "Who didn't discover America?"...


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Posted 21 May 2013 - 07:25 PM

View PostTaun, on 21 May 2013 - 07:16 PM, said:

It seems like every year we get a story about "Did (fill in the blank) discover America?"...  Maybe they should ask "Who didn't discover America?"...

Maybe we should ask did Taun ever heard for historian revisionists and read link. In the end you are in speculative history sub forum. No offence.

Edited by the L, 21 May 2013 - 07:25 PM.

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 07:31 PM

i) The Birth of Civilization - Pearson

www.pearsonhighered.com/assets/hip/us/hip_us.../020583549X.pdf‎



ii ) COMPARING CHINESE AND MESOAMERICAN CALENDAR DATES
http://mysite.verizo...lley1/id18.html


iii) Mesoamerican Subsistence Techniques - CSU, Chico
www.csuchico.edu/~sbrady/355westmeso.pdf



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Posted 21 May 2013 - 07:36 PM

View Postthe L, on 21 May 2013 - 07:25 PM, said:

Maybe we should ask did Taun ever heard for historian revisionists and read link. In the end you are in speculative history sub forum. No offence.

No offence taken.. I'm at work and very often links don't work on this computer (blocked)...


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Posted 21 May 2013 - 07:38 PM

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Valdivia left Jomon right

The Valdivia culture was discovered in 1956 by the Ecuadorian archeologist Emilio Estrada. Based on comparison of archeological remains and pottery styles (specifically, the similarity between the Valdivian pottery and the ancient Jōmon culture on the island of Kyūshū, Japan) Estrada, along with the American archaeologist Betty Meggers suggested that a relationship between the people of Ecuador and the people of Japan existed in ancient times. Since then, it has been discovered that people living in the area, and in SW Japan yet uncovered, both have a low rate of a virus not known in other populations, HTLV-1. Part of the theory was that the Japanese had conducted trans-Pacific trade. This theory was controversial...


https://en.wikipedia...aldivia_culture

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 07:39 PM

View PostTaun, on 21 May 2013 - 07:36 PM, said:

No offence taken.. I'm at work and very often links don't work on this computer (blocked)...

Im glad that you took it with positive stance. You can see similarities in picture I posted.

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 08:22 PM

View Postthird_eye, on 21 May 2013 - 07:31 PM, said:

i) The Birth of Civilization - Pearson

www.pearsonhighered.com/assets/hip/us/hip_us.../020583549X.pdf‎



ii ) COMPARING CHINESE AND MESOAMERICAN CALENDAR DATES
http://mysite.verizo...lley1/id18.html


iii) Mesoamerican Subsistence Techniques - CSU, Chico
www.csuchico.edu/~sbrady/355westmeso.pdf



~edit : note "lacquer ware craftsmanship" ... sleeeepy ...

...you know that calendars are either based on the moon or the sun, right? The two big, giant light-y things in the sky. You may have seen them. Ancient people are no less likely to have.

Just because two cultures happen to pick the same one of the two giant, big shiny things in the sky in no way suggests contact, no more than someone choosing the same candy bar as you in a gas station presupposes deep connection. (Interestingly, his PhD is in Linguistics, a topic conspicuous by its absence in his paper.)

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 08:27 PM

View Postjaylemurph, on 21 May 2013 - 08:22 PM, said:

...you know that calendars are either based on the moon or the sun, right? The two big, giant light-y things in the sky. You may have seen them. Ancient people are no less likely to have.

Just because two cultures happen to pick the same one of the two giant, big shiny things in the sky in no way suggests contact, no more than someone choosing the same candy bar as you in a gas station presupposes deep connection. (Interestingly, his PhD is in Linguistics, a topic conspicuous by its absence in his paper.)

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#11    Big Bad Voodoo

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 08:31 PM

So what do you think guys, did Jomons sailed to America? Pottery seems very similar.

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 08:40 PM

So Who Discovered America?  This documentary investigates several thousand years of history for the evidence

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Edited by Saru, 22 May 2013 - 11:20 AM.
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