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#46    Coffey

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:15 PM

View PostCrimsonKing, on 10 March 2013 - 07:05 PM, said:

I know it doesnt just stating the way it is supposed to be.You think voting for or being part of a party who gives orders to start these wars then blame it on the troops is not hypocrisy? lol


I never once blamed it on the troops....


I would stand shoulder to shoulder with them if it was for a real cause. Our military is supposed to protect us... not them. It protects them at the moment, that is why in the US thye are getting rid of soldiers who won't shoot at civilians if ordered. Then deeming them unfit to own a firearm.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:20 PM

View PostCoffey, on 10 March 2013 - 07:15 PM, said:

... that is why in the US they are getting rid of soldiers who won't shoot at civilians if ordered. Then deeming them unfit to own a firearm.

Where are you getting this info? Link please.


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Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:23 PM

View PostCoffey, on 10 March 2013 - 07:15 PM, said:

I never once blamed it on the troops....


I would stand shoulder to shoulder with them if it was for a real cause. Our military is supposed to protect us... not them. It protects them at the moment, that is why in the US thye are getting rid of soldiers who won't shoot at civilians if ordered. Then deeming them unfit to own a firearm.

This is one of the reasons i stand behind no party,because they do not stand for us.You are correct in stating that votes are meaningless,they are only there to have one side for the other to blame endlessly back and forth instead of putting the blame on the real culprits.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:54 PM

View Postpallidin, on 10 March 2013 - 07:20 PM, said:

Where are you getting this info? Link please.

It was posted on the forum somewhere. My internet is playing up otherwise I'd find it for you, search in the US forum.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:56 PM

View PostCoffey, on 10 March 2013 - 07:54 PM, said:

It was posted on the forum somewhere. My internet is playing up otherwise I'd find it for you, search in the US forum.

Really? Your internet seems to be doing just fine.

Link please. Outside of UM.


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Posted 10 March 2013 - 08:04 PM

View Postpallidin, on 10 March 2013 - 07:56 PM, said:

Really? Your internet seems to be doing just fine.

Link please. Outside of UM.

My net is taking ages to load pages...


I found it in google anyway:

http://www.freerepub...t/2981315/posts

There was a few sources posted in the US forum and it was discussed heavily, thought you posted in there as well.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 08:05 PM

Thank you. I shall review.


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Posted 10 March 2013 - 08:29 PM

From your link(not your words):

“I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new “litmus test” in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready to explode folks. “The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not”. Those who will not are being removed,” Garrow wrote on his Facebook page, later following up the post by adding the man who told him is, “one of America’s foremost military heroes,” whose goal in divulging the information was to “sound the alarm.”

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Curiously, that is a fringe site.

Secondly, he offer's NO AUTHENTICATION to his claims whatsoever. Which is mildly distrurbing.

I did read his credentials, and I'm OK with that. I realize that he did not compose that article, rather it was an external commentary from his FaceBook post.

What bugs me is that site you linked seems to be exteremly fringe-oriented.

So, I simply cannot reasonably take their word. Nor his, as he offers no authentication.

But, I do appreciate the link. Thanks.

Edited by pallidin, 10 March 2013 - 08:31 PM.


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Posted 11 March 2013 - 12:12 AM

Can anyone from Britain verify if the article in the blue/black image at the bottom of this article is accurate?


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Posted 11 March 2013 - 12:26 AM

View PostWickian, on 11 March 2013 - 12:12 AM, said:

Can anyone from Britain verify if the article in the blue/black image at the bottom of this article is accurate?

It's kinda accurate.  (It's the Daily Mail, after all)
Here's Lord Ashcroft's polls....
http://lordashcroftp...forces-society/

Edited by Eldorado, 11 March 2013 - 12:31 AM.


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Posted 11 March 2013 - 10:32 AM

Virgin can stick their frequent flier card, I will vote with my feet and go BA next flight.

They are overpriced anyway IMO.  They use to be the best, but standards have slipped so I am not surprised.  I have had a few run in's with the cabin crew lately who can be dam right rude.

I was taking a business flight with Virgin and they overbooked the flight.  I was moved down from premium to economy without any apology.  My compensation was an emergency ext seat with so called leg room.  As soon as my backside was in the chair they wanted to move me again because a family had turned up late and insisted sitting together.  I protested and was told if I didn't move I would be removed from the flight.  They broke safety rules by putting a man who was in the family group who had his leg in plaster top to bottom in the seat by the emergency exit.  When I pointed it out they went ballistic.

I left the flight of my own accord and flew back via another airline.  My company managed to get a refund in the end.

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 05:21 PM

View PostlibstaK, on 09 March 2013 - 11:33 AM, said:

what is going on in England that their armed forces are treated with such disrespect and publically ridiculed?

Left wing rule.

In America, current and former members of the armed forces are given permanent discounts at things like shops, restaurants and cinemas.

In Britain, the British public generally love their armed forces personnel and thousands go out every Remembrance Sunday to pay their respects to those who fought and died for our freedoms.  Hundreds of people lined the streets of Royal Wootton Basset to honour the Afghanistan fallen when their coffins passed through the town.  It's just our ruling Left Wing Establishment which hates our armed forces personnel.

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 11:05 AM

View PostTheLastLazyGun, on 11 March 2013 - 05:21 PM, said:

Left wing rule.

In America, current and former members of the armed forces are given permanent discounts at things like shops, restaurants and cinemas.

In Britain, the British public generally love their armed forces personnel and thousands go out every Remembrance Sunday to pay their respects to those who fought and died for our freedoms.  Hundreds of people lined the streets of Royal Wootton Basset to honour the Afghanistan fallen when their coffins passed through the town.  It's just our ruling Left Wing Establishment which hates our armed forces personnel.
I think that is a bit of a generalisation, I am sure left wingers are as respectful of the soldier's efforts as anyone else - ignorant laymen on the other hand, meh... I think it is an education and identity issue, patriotism is not a right wing perogative it is a national perogative, most people know this.

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 12:30 PM

View PostlibstaK, on 12 March 2013 - 11:05 AM, said:

I think that is a bit of a generalisation, I am sure left wingers are as respectful of the soldier's efforts as anyone else - ignorant laymen on the other hand, meh... I think it is an education and identity issue, patriotism is not a right wing perogative it is a national perogative, most people know this.

We all remember (well, I don't because I was only nearly four months old but many who are old enough do) when the then Labour Party leader Michael Foot wore a donkey jacket at the Cenotaph in central London during the 1981 Remembrance Sunday commemorations.

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 12:43 PM

View PostTheLastLazyGun, on 12 March 2013 - 12:30 PM, said:

We all remember (well, I don't because I was only nearly four months old but many who are old enough do) when the then Labour Party leader Michael Foot wore a donkey jacket at the Cenotaph in central London during the 1981 Remembrance Sunday commemorations.

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I don't remember that being Australian - but holding a grudge for the span of your natural life against a whole party because of the perceived actions of an individual seems a little ott, lol.

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