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#16    psyche101

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 12:24 AM

View PostZeta Reticulum, on 29 April 2013 - 08:50 AM, said:

Maybe get some professional help.............. you obviously need it

You should take a page from your own book.

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 12:39 AM

View Posttopsecretresearch, on 29 April 2013 - 03:47 AM, said:

I made this observation looking at different types of disc craft and that there is a correlation with what people observe in UFO sightings and space.

May I ask where you are heading with this? What you are saying is like people see bunnies in clouds, people see shapes in space that look a bit like some UFO's? What does the correlation mean? It would appear to be a space based example of paredolia?

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 02:48 AM

Hum  ? I think were onto something now !  INK blot UFo research ! UFO`s fly in the clouds,Bunnies hop in the woods,Big Foot tromps in the woods,Loch Nessy swims the the Loch,and I love my Paredolia with  Vodka sauce and Lots of parmaggino ! :tu:

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 06:45 AM

View Postpsyche101, on 30 April 2013 - 12:39 AM, said:

What does the correlation mean?

It supports the ETH = space faring craft.
What does an airplane look like? kind of like a bird right? It has a tail, two wings.
These UFO craft kind of resemble what you would see in outer space because they are space faring.
The technology is very in tune with space. A species that has mastered space travel.

Edited by topsecretresearch, 30 April 2013 - 06:47 AM.


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Posted 30 April 2013 - 06:56 AM

View PostArchimedes, on 29 April 2013 - 07:11 PM, said:

To the OP: You do know that a black hole doesn't actually look like or is shaped like that, right?

It's a simplistic diagram meant to convey a concept that is impossible to actually draw as a simple diagram. Why would ET make a wizard's hat shaped UFO that somewhat resembles a diagram of how earth scientists use to convey something about black holes?

You may have a point but then agian a black hole looks like that on a diagram for a reason. The singularity (dome of the disc) and event horizon ( base or skirt of the disc).

As for the wizard hat saucer here's a case from Spain:

June 14,1974; Medellin, Spain
Source: Newspaper "Pueblo," June 22, 1974, by J. M. Amilibia Submitted by: Sr. Pedro Redon, MUFON Representative for Spain, through Joe Brill, International Coordinator Translated by: Bill Armstrong

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Witness: Santiago Pulido Romero


"What was its form?"

"Underneath or below it was round with a kind of tower which terminated in a point on top. The round part was transparent and from the interior came out an intense yellow light. The tower shone like metal...

"You say that it was transparent. Did you see anything in its interior at the times when the object came near to you?"

"Yes. I, saw clearly three men. Three men very tall, more than two meters, who were moving stiffly as though under orders and who had something on their heads like helmets or something similar. They moved about on foot. I tell you it was something to see."

"What size would you estimate it was?"

"The round part was about twenty meters in diameter and the tower about ten meters in height. "


Here's another case described in Need To Know by Timothy Good.


July 1968; Inland near the USSR, Black Sea


Dr Irena Scott. CUFOS. DAI - America's photo reconnaissance spy satellite programes - Kehole and Talent.

The object on the photograph was shaped like a saucer with a raised dome in the center. It appeared to be saucer-shaped with a dome [which] appeared to be quite tall in comparison to the brim - almost like a high top hat, or like the Kecksburb, Pennsylvania, object standing on end.



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Posted 30 April 2013 - 09:02 AM

View Posttopsecretresearch, on 30 April 2013 - 06:45 AM, said:

It supports the ETH = space faring craft.
What does an airplane look like? kind of like a bird right? It has a tail, two wings.
These UFO craft kind of resemble what you would see in outer space because they are space faring.
The technology is very in tune with space. A species that has mastered space travel.

OK, fair enough! I can live with that. But without atmosphere, a spaceship can be any shape it wants to be can't it? Can there be an opportune shape for a spacecraft? Or would that possibly be based on entering many atmospheres? Maybe a certain shape is good for entry to all types of atmospheric densities?

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 01:27 PM

View Posttopsecretresearch, on 29 April 2013 - 05:01 PM, said:

Hazzard that wasn't a very smart thing to write. Scientist look for patterns in analyzing data.

Please think before you post.

You cant possibly compare your self with a scientist analyzing data. :lol:  All you are doing here is looking for stuff that fits your preconsived notion.

I still await the compelling Exhibit A.

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 04:11 PM

View Posttopsecretresearch, on 30 April 2013 - 06:45 AM, said:

It supports the ETH = space faring craft.
What does an airplane look like? kind of like a bird right? It has a tail, two wings.
These UFO craft kind of resemble what you would see in outer space because they are space faring.
The technology is very in tune with space. A species that has mastered space travel.
Airplanes have a vague resemblance to birds for functional reasons.  They are designed to be aerodynamic and have wings that provide lift.

What advantage is there to making an interstellar spacecraft look like a diagram of a black hole or to have a superficial to a gas giant with a ring system?

Humans have mastered sea-faring travel.  But we don't have boats that look like underwater volcanoes or octopuses or other random things in the sea because that would make no sense.

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 04:19 PM

View PostArchimedes, on 30 April 2013 - 04:11 PM, said:

Humans have mastered sea-faring travel.

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 04:33 PM

View PostSweetpumper, on 30 April 2013 - 04:19 PM, said:

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ET isn't perfect either otherwise one wouldn't have crashed at Roswell.

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 04:39 PM

View PostArchimedes, on 30 April 2013 - 04:33 PM, said:

ET isn't perfect either otherwise one wouldn't have crashed at Roswell.

Texting and UFOing don't mix.

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 01:11 AM

View PostArchimedes, on 30 April 2013 - 04:11 PM, said:


What advantage is there to making an interstellar spacecraft look like a diagram of a black hole or to have a superficial to a gas giant with a ring system?


Giving our faithful friend the benefit of the doubt, (this has gotta be messing with his head lol) with some speculation I would probably arrive at the proposed notion of warp travel or such, that might be something similar to a black hole space distortion maybe?

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 01:33 AM

View Postpsyche101, on 01 May 2013 - 01:11 AM, said:

Giving our faithful friend the benefit of the doubt, (this has gotta be messing with his head lol) with some speculation I would probably arrive at the proposed notion of warp travel or such, that might be something similar to a black hole space distortion maybe?
But what has that to do with ET spacecraft shaped vaguely like Saturn or black hole diagrams?

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 02:31 AM

View PostArchimedes, on 01 May 2013 - 01:33 AM, said:

But what has that to do with ET spacecraft shaped vaguely like Saturn or black hole diagrams?

I know this one!

UFOs are shaped like pointy hats because they're black hole gob stoppers!

See? I do my home work.


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Posted 01 May 2013 - 03:04 AM

View PostArchimedes, on 01 May 2013 - 01:33 AM, said:

But what has that to do with ET spacecraft shaped vaguely like Saturn or black hole diagrams?

Well trying to think like a believer, I would guess that perhaps the forces in space shaped our planets and suns as such, perhaps it works with forms of space manipulation? Maybe a pointed cone could stabilise a singularities event horizon (perhaps allowing the bending of space?), and maybe a saturn shape might be a good way of breaking the atmosphere with the "ring" to allow the sphere shape to handle high pressures well?

Really throwing extremely wild speculations out there, but that does seem to be in line with the OP's train of thought. Commonality seems a logical place to start, even if it amounts to nothing.

Edited by psyche101, 01 May 2013 - 03:05 AM.

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