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NASA's LRO sees Apollo sites in new images


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#1    ScienceDominates

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 03:54 PM

www.nasa.gov said:

NASA Spacecraft Images Offer Sharper Views of Apollo Landing Sites.

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http://lroc.sese.asu...g-the-Moon.html

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 05:28 AM

First releases..
A significant improvement, but not huge...

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 05:38 AM

View PostScienceDominates, on 06 September 2011 - 03:54 PM, said:

Why would the rover be there? They drove there got out and walked back? Seems odd and/or lame/or fake


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Posted 07 September 2011 - 06:08 AM

What is the purpose of releasing these photos ? Oh wait, don't tell me, they are to put all the hoax stuff to rest ? If so, how far has this mob sunk, lending credibility to ratbags by answering them with 'proof'. Tragic, IMO.


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Posted 07 September 2011 - 08:01 AM

View PostHabitat, on 07 September 2011 - 06:08 AM, said:

What is the purpose of releasing these photos ? Oh wait, don't tell me, they are to put all the hoax stuff to rest ? If so, how far has this mob sunk, lending credibility to ratbags by answering them with 'proof'. Tragic, IMO.
Alright relevant question. One purpose would be just to document the Apollo sites at this resolution. Another reason that I remember with a scientific objective, during the audio interview this morning(sept 6) just after they released the images, they said a few things about some scientists debate about how often dust on the Moon is moved around naturally, so they wanted to look at the foot trails and such left by the astronauts to gather more evidence to support those theories either way.

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 10:14 AM

View PostHabitat, on 07 September 2011 - 06:08 AM, said:

What is the purpose of releasing these photos ? Oh wait, don't tell me, they are to put all the hoax stuff to rest ? If so, how far has this mob sunk, lending credibility to ratbags by answering them with 'proof'. Tragic, IMO.

Perhaps you should try thinking a little wider, and maybe reading the links...

There is much scientific and historical interest in the sites, even if there were no other reason or advantage to imaging them.

As another example and apart from SD's points, how many things are up on the Moon that we have very accurate sizes/dimensions for?  And how do you calibrate a camera and tune its performance?  Would you like me to explain?  Do you know how that camera works, and why/how they would wish to calibrate it?

And how about you tell us why *shouldn't* they target these areas?  I'm sure you know better. :rolleyes:

As for 'all this hoax stuff', given the dwindling numbers (and dwindling intelligence) of hoax believers as evidenced by the absolutely pitiful level & quality of postings even at the most virulent conspiracy sites (and in spite of some determined sock-puppeting..) - frankly NASA couldn't give a hoot about them.  It's over for the deniers.  The large lady has sung, and these latest LRO images are merely a decorative tack in the denial coffin.

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 10:24 AM

I love that they have released these images. And I can't wait for HD video, the day it arrives, or at the very least myself setting foot on the viewing platform overlooking the site!

They're not trying to dismiss the skeptics. Anyone who thinks this would be released to dispel disbelief is delusional!

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 10:30 AM

Nothing to do with debunking hoaxers ? Those pictures are as boring as bat excreta, you can go on believing they are rivetting images, and not connected with discrediting hoax loonies, but I don't believe it.


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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:14 AM

This isn't to keep the pseudo-skeptics quiet, its interesting to people who love the history of the moon landings. And the rover being driven all the way over there is proof that its fake??? Wow, that's tenuous.


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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:21 AM

View PostHabitat, on 07 September 2011 - 10:30 AM, said:

Nothing to do with debunking hoaxers ? Those pictures are as boring as bat excreta, you can go on believing they are rivetting images, and not connected with discrediting hoax loonies, but I don't believe it.
Well it's one opinion, that's fine.. I do like how Phil Plait put it though..

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You are actually seeing physical evidence of human beings walking on the surface of another world.
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These are historical evidence of one of the most extraordinary adventures we humans have ever undertaken.
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Humanity's bootprints on the Moon seen in hi-res pix by LRO. Never forget what we can choose to do.
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:35 AM

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 12:12 PM

They got there alright that's why Russia didn't, it was a race to the moon, the US won and Russia gave up, are there still idiots that believe such a hoax would have fooled Russia into giving up the greatest prize in human history so far, do you think Russia could have fooled the US, I think not.


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Posted 07 September 2011 - 02:24 PM

Great photos, very interesting. Glad they released them. Why not? imo


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Posted 07 September 2011 - 03:32 PM

Cool stuff indeed, the conspiracy paranoid types will have to go back to chasing big foot or the Lizard man of Carolina. Amazing how much trash was left. If we ever go back they should take some new batteries for those moon buggys! That must have been a blast driving those on the moon.


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Posted 07 September 2011 - 05:34 PM

no no no  :no: you see these are made up tracks that they took pictures of in some remote part of nevada.  Its so obvious.  :yes: They do it because they care.

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