Thanks Essene for your infos. I don't Know Alchemy, I only try to understand something and some questions appear.
For the website that i posted, it is very diffcult to understant wich products is better for me.
And more it is not possible to communicate personally and ask any clarifications, we receive an auto replay.
When i red the pages i gave confidence to what they write but i don't like this aspect.
It seems that nobody is in the other side to support your eventual need
I can't ask if it is possible to ship in Italy, often it isn't.
I understant that the time waiting is three months, minimum
You can just add 3 months to the date your order was made to figure your exact shipping date allowing time for USPS --see below please
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Three months is the time it takes to finish one octave--each octave consists of 2 vials (or bottles)so please order with that in mind. As you know there is no problem with a time-break between formulations.
I think, as you suggest ,that it would be better to Know an alchemist.
A normal doctor can't follow the process.
In the website i don't see the aspect of the healing crisis
as here it is:
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/phil...m#healingcrisis
Some questions:
"This powder is taken under tongue and directly absorbed , then stomac is out, this is one difference from the other products
The high spin powder, formulated through the liquid phases into the powder and then"transformed" through the final steps under extremely high heat and pressure is incredibly light and fine, it is taken under the tongue and absorbed easily sublingually, the issues of digestive acids are relevant to white powder gold or iridium prior to the final steps- this "white powder gold" is the material that is normally available to a certain degree. The issue of digestion and absorption is not relevant in relation to what we would call high-spin ormes, it is not absorbed or digested in the stomach.
... We agree rhodium is more effective for healing the physical body than gold; iridium also-however iridium increases metabolism more than the other elements and can cause undesired growth of aberrant cells. We therefore suggest never taking m-state iridium alone, and for some health concerns-where cell growth is the last thing desired, we would suggest eliminating it entirely
May we know if the rhodium- iridium are in the correct proportion for the person? She is not visited before, her subtle state is unknown
http://www.asc-alchemy.com/mono.html"
In the page that you give me the dangers seems not to exist:
Discusses different effects of rhodium, iridium and gold.
"The iridium and the gold seem to speed up the metabolism of the body about 40% and they seem to not go into the bloodstream and not go through the kidneys. It seems to be taken into the acupuncture system of the body and it seems to be associated with the spinal cord and the thymus. Which, in fact, is the consciousness and the metabolic rate of the body.
http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/health/health.htm
In the previous page
http://www.asc-alchemy.com/mono.html
"We do make the powder available without "charging"; people are sometimes scared by such stories. We do think the charging is important however and the least understood aspect of the alchemical process; it's not in the patent. As he says "But there's as much difference as night and day...ingesting this over the other." People now use the term "charging" in different ways, confusing its meaning and intent. It's very real exoteric physical alchemy with definitive criteria of the type of chamber/oven, type of atmosphere/gas, rate of temperature change and even the number of charging cycles after the powder state is reached; this is done after the powder is formed from the liquid suspension. Once the alchemical foundation is properly laid we greatly enjoy working with more subtle energy techniques. We mention scalar waves in the technology section. There are numerous ways to create scalar waves, many of you are familiar with Tesla's work but perhaps more interesting is the use of natural scalar waves that can be created with crystal grids, crystals in geometric patterns. The angles between the crystals important for those doing their own research. More importantly is the honoring of the crystals as conscious evolving life-forms; this goes well beyond technology into co-creation."
The question can be the same: the charging . The scalar wave and the spin are he same for everyone.
I can that for me it is of difficult understading
In the powder gold faq (same page)
"Because they possess the properties of metals, the transition elements are also known as the transition metals. Study any text on alchemy; the beginner starts with plant alchemy, and includes the sea salt preparations, in time graduating to working with minerals and ultimately to the precious metals; the precious metals always referenced as the highest, most powerful form of alchemy and the most difficult to master......."
Then i don't understant if we have to pass through all differents formulas.
In few words i don't know wich product i could buy .
There are too many , one specific on regeneration , why one specific if the golden powder works in this way?
In conclusion when you assumed the product , Essen , had you an alchemist that controled you?
In any case you have bought a product in web .
The best would be that the alchimist made the product for you or...that you become alchemist and made your remedy as the alchimists did.
It's a problem.
However i see that there is people satisfied.
What is Alchemy ?
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What is Alchemy: Alchemy is one of the Hermetic arts and is based on the idea that divine order was placed on the universe with ‘prima materia’ or first matter. Everything is made of this matter, which is, in essence, the Philosopher’s Stone.Said to exist everywhere, if the ‘stone’ can be manufactured, then one thing can be transmuted into something more perfect, gold being the usual end product as it is perfect and most closely echoes the perfection of God.The name alchemy comes from the Arab’s name for Egypt, ‘Khem,’ a country that took gold-working to great heights. The precursor of chemistry - most chemistry equipment was devised by alchemists - such notables as Albrecht, Roger Bacon and Isaac Newton were known to be alchemists.
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Depends on the Alchemy you are talking about.
there was 1.) The alchemy of the guild of traveling quacks
2.) The medical alchemy (which is nothing but rudimentary bio chemistry) as practiced by Helmond, Llulius and Paracelsus
3.) The experimental alchemy (now we call it chemistry)
4.) The spiritual alchemy (mostly practiced by those who need an ersatz-religion)
5.) The physical alchemy (now we call it physics) practiced by Bacon, Newton and Gauss
Al-Kema may have been the Arabian name for Egypt, but lacking a better name name the early concept of science and research was also called that. Science was almost extinct in Europe during the middle ages and came back through Moorish Spain, therefore the name (latinized to alchemia) was kept.
In out times all interest seems to go to the first category and everybody who had something to do with science before or during the renaissance is attributed to have been an Alchemist. Well, most of them had very little to do with what we consider alchemy.
The panacea, or the cure for all illnesses as devised by Hippocrates was converted to the "stone of the wise" by the guild. The other "goal" was to manufacture gold. But that is easy ... because most of the members of the guild of traveling quacks were con-artists who knew little about anything except enough mumbo-jumbo to pull a quick one on some gullible soul and disappear with their money.
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Posted 19 July 2007 - 01:00 AM
Sorry for the delay in response. Evidently you can turn dead sea salts and other salts into gold and other precious metals, I will give a link on that. As for an Alchemist near the EU he is in Great Briton and evidently has trained under Don, do a google search or what ever search you use over there. I will also give a little more insight on the science of this. The link for making gold is http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/dsassays.htm <QUOTE From Forum Member> Hi Barry,
Excellent articles on resonance, vibration, and quantum coherence concerning
ormus. It appears that the boson box/cage framework is a good model to explain
properties of ormus. Well done!
It reminds me of Michael Grady's theory of a Liquid Phase Transition model of
our Universe. (this actually fits in a more inclusive Fractal Hologram Model).
Anyway, his idea is that the Universe is a giant crystal growing in a
five-dimensional liquid and quantum fluctuations are simply the random sloshing
back and forth of heat in the bulk of the fluid. "These heat fluctuations
continually buffet the phase boundary in which we live.
Now, the subatomic particles that form the building blocks of our world, these
particles come in two types: "fermions" such as electrons, which obey the Pauli
exclusion principle forbidding two particles from occupying the same quantum
state; and "bosons" such as photons, which observe no such restrictions. Grady
believes bosons are "phonons", or vibrations of the crystal lattice, while
fermions are defects of the lattice known as "screw dislocations". Think of the
planes of a crystal as the stacked floors of a multistory parking lot," says
Grady. "A screw dislocation is like the spiral ramp connecting the floors."
Two identical screw dislocations obey the Pauli exclusion principle because
they repel each other when forced together. And a mirror-image pair of screw
dislocations, differing only in the sense in which they spiral, behave just like
a particle and its antiparticle. When they meet, they cancel each other and are
annihilated in a burst of energy. The opposite of this process is "pair
production", in which two screw dislocations of opposite sense pop into
existence if vibrational energy is supplied to the lattice.
According to Grady, screw dislocations even obey Einstein's special theory of
relativity, with the speed of sound in the solid acting like the speed of light
in our Universe. The link between the speed of sound and the rate at which screw
dislocations can travel was first shown by the Russian physicists J. Frenkel and
T. Kontorowa in 1938. According the their picture, as a screw dislocation
approaches this limiting speed it compresses in the direction of motion by
exactly the amount predicted by Einstein. At the same time, the stress energy of
the screw dislocation rises, again in accord with Einstein. "At the speed of
sound, the energy, and hence the effective mass, of the dislocation becomes
infinite," says Grady. "Fermionic matter is therefore prevented from traveling
faster than light.
Anyway, ORMUS elements exhibit quantum properties and behaviors which are only
associated with bosons.
So, since bosons are force carrying particles...ORMUS platinum group metals
etc., must be a type of boson despite the fact that metallic platinum group
metals are fermions. Further, quantum coherence, quantum non-locality,
superconductivity, tunneling and other generally strange behaviors are
associated with bosons but not fermions.
Further, this means that a particle acts as if it were a spherical oscillator.
(Quantum theory requires particles to meet this requirment, that the frequency
of its waves to be proportional to its mass in accordance with the formula f =
mc2/h.)
And, these particles as an oscillator, exhibit a Standing Wave Center that
resists coupling unless both have the same resonant frequency. Thus the term
Particle and Standing Wave Center are interchangable.
So, these Higgs fields are also scalar fields which tap into dark energy.
This gets into Zero Point Energy, the Aether and so on...
Which leads me too Hans Jenny's Cymatics; where a vibrating surface is covered
with sand and the frequency of the vibration creates patterns -- apply this in
3D/4D
and the over sensitivity to frequency processing in our brains points to the
emergence of 'archeypal' forms.
And, ultimately making the leap to our analysis of fundamental particles.
Which has led to the distinctions of two basic types -- fermions and bosons. Is
it coincidence that the general behaviours of these types reflect properties of
objects (fermion-like, no superpositions, discrete) and relationships? And
(boson-like, superpositions, waves) which seem to be a possible link of brain
oscillation behaviour and the resulting patterns to the beginnings of the
universe based on the oscillations, the dynamics of fermion/boson interactions?
A quote from the American Institute of Physics:
"A superfluid is a liquid that flows without viscosity or inner friction. For
a liquid to become superfluid, the atoms or molecules making up the liquid must
be cooled or "condensed" to the point at which they all occupy the same quantum
state. A liquid of helium-3, an atom whose nucleus is made up of an odd number
of particles, is a type of particle known as a fermion. Groups of fermions are
not allowed to occupy the same quantum state.
By cooling the liquid to a low enough temperature, helium-3 atoms can pair up
(left panel). The number of particles in each nucleus adds up to an even number,
making it a type of particle known as a boson. Groups of bosons can fall into
the same quantum state, and therefore superfluidity can be achieved. Helium-4
(middle panel), a boson, does not need to pair up to form a superfluid; groups
of helium-4 atoms condense into the superfluid state at about 2 degrees above
absolute zero. Superfluidity, especially the kind that exists in helium-3, is
analogous to conventional low-temperature superconductivity, in which electrons
flow through certain metals and alloys without resistance. In a superconductor
(right panel), electrons, which are fermions, pair up in the metal crystal to
form "Cooper pairs," bosons which can then condense into a superconducting
state."
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg1612...ic-crystal.html
Barry wrote:
Dear David,
Thanks for a very well written description of this concept. I
generally use one of Hans Jenny's videos in my workshop to illustrate
this concept.
If I might add a bit on to your explanation and relate it to ORMUS:
Imagine that the ORMUS elements can function as quantum coherent
resonators. Now imagine that these resonators hang out inside of the
balloon and that the balloon is a water molecule. If the resonators
changed frequency then the shape of the water molecules would change
in response.
I have written three articles on this theory starting in 2002:
http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/box.htm
2004 from my Workshop slide show:
http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/resonance.htm
2006:
http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/spincoherence.htm
At 09:44 PM 7/13/2007, you wrote:
>Hi Bo,
>
> You are on to something!
>
> You are getting into Sympathetic Vibration & Fractal
> Geometry. From a physics [ PHI - CYCLES ] point of view, the
> fundamental basis of all natural phenomena is vibration. All
> natural forces manifest to us in a vibratory or cyclical manner.
>
> Standing Waves - sound and form - When a vibration or wave
> reflects off of something, such as another wave, it can interfere
> with its own reflection. The interference is alternately
> constructive or destructive as the two waves move past each other.
> This creates a standing wave . Only waves with certain frequencies
> can create standing waves. This is because the distance from one
> node to the next must always be some fraction of the total length
> (one half, one third, etc.).
>
> All objects have a frequency or set of frequencies with which
> they naturally resonate when struck, plucked, strummed or somehow
> disturbed. Each of the natural frequencies at which an object
> vibrates is associated with a standing wave pattern. When an object
> is forced into resonance vibrations at one of its natural
> frequencies, it vibrates in a manner such that a standing wave is
> formed within the object. So the natural frequencies of an object
> are merely the harmonic frequencies at which standing wave patterns
> are established within the object.
>
> These standing wave patterns represent the lowest energy
> vibrational modes of the object or complex system. While there are
> countless way by which an object can vibrate (each associated with
> a specific frequency), objects favor only a few specific modes or
> patterns of vibrating.
>
>The favored modes (patterns) of vibration are those which result in
>the highest amplitude vibrations with the least input of energy.
>
> In 3D standing waves, a structure, with all characteristics of a
> platonic solid, is formed for each standing wave mode. Within an
> atom, which is the building block of matter, the platonic solid is
> not formed by salt or known particles, but by electromagnetic waves in vacuum.
>
>Both the students of Buckminster Fuller and his protege Dr. Hans
>Jenny devised clever experiments that showed how the Platonic Solids
>would form within a vibrating / pulsating 3D sphere.
>
>In the experiment conducted by Fuller's students, a spherical
>balloon was dipped in dye and pulsed with pure sine wave sound
>frequencies. A small number of evenly-distanced nodes would form
>across the surface of the sphere, as well as thin lines that
>connected them to each other.
>
>If you have four evenly spaced nodes, you will see a tetrahedron.
>Six evenly spaced nodes form an octahedron.
>Eight evenly spaced nodes form a cube.
>Twelve evenly spaced nodes form the icosahedron
>and twenty evenly spaced nodes form the dodecahedron.
>
>The straight lines that we see on these geometric objects simply
>represent the stresses that are created by the closest distance
>between two points for each of the nodes as they distribute
>themselves across the entire surface of the sphere
Excellent articles on resonance, vibration, and quantum coherence concerning
ormus. It appears that the boson box/cage framework is a good model to explain
properties of ormus. Well done!
It reminds me of Michael Grady's theory of a Liquid Phase Transition model of
our Universe. (this actually fits in a more inclusive Fractal Hologram Model).
Anyway, his idea is that the Universe is a giant crystal growing in a
five-dimensional liquid and quantum fluctuations are simply the random sloshing
back and forth of heat in the bulk of the fluid. "These heat fluctuations
continually buffet the phase boundary in which we live.
Now, the subatomic particles that form the building blocks of our world, these
particles come in two types: "fermions" such as electrons, which obey the Pauli
exclusion principle forbidding two particles from occupying the same quantum
state; and "bosons" such as photons, which observe no such restrictions. Grady
believes bosons are "phonons", or vibrations of the crystal lattice, while
fermions are defects of the lattice known as "screw dislocations". Think of the
planes of a crystal as the stacked floors of a multistory parking lot," says
Grady. "A screw dislocation is like the spiral ramp connecting the floors."
Two identical screw dislocations obey the Pauli exclusion principle because
they repel each other when forced together. And a mirror-image pair of screw
dislocations, differing only in the sense in which they spiral, behave just like
a particle and its antiparticle. When they meet, they cancel each other and are
annihilated in a burst of energy. The opposite of this process is "pair
production", in which two screw dislocations of opposite sense pop into
existence if vibrational energy is supplied to the lattice.
According to Grady, screw dislocations even obey Einstein's special theory of
relativity, with the speed of sound in the solid acting like the speed of light
in our Universe. The link between the speed of sound and the rate at which screw
dislocations can travel was first shown by the Russian physicists J. Frenkel and
T. Kontorowa in 1938. According the their picture, as a screw dislocation
approaches this limiting speed it compresses in the direction of motion by
exactly the amount predicted by Einstein. At the same time, the stress energy of
the screw dislocation rises, again in accord with Einstein. "At the speed of
sound, the energy, and hence the effective mass, of the dislocation becomes
infinite," says Grady. "Fermionic matter is therefore prevented from traveling
faster than light.
Anyway, ORMUS elements exhibit quantum properties and behaviors which are only
associated with bosons.
So, since bosons are force carrying particles...ORMUS platinum group metals
etc., must be a type of boson despite the fact that metallic platinum group
metals are fermions. Further, quantum coherence, quantum non-locality,
superconductivity, tunneling and other generally strange behaviors are
associated with bosons but not fermions.
Further, this means that a particle acts as if it were a spherical oscillator.
(Quantum theory requires particles to meet this requirment, that the frequency
of its waves to be proportional to its mass in accordance with the formula f =
mc2/h.)
And, these particles as an oscillator, exhibit a Standing Wave Center that
resists coupling unless both have the same resonant frequency. Thus the term
Particle and Standing Wave Center are interchangable.
So, these Higgs fields are also scalar fields which tap into dark energy.
This gets into Zero Point Energy, the Aether and so on...
Which leads me too Hans Jenny's Cymatics; where a vibrating surface is covered
with sand and the frequency of the vibration creates patterns -- apply this in
3D/4D
and the over sensitivity to frequency processing in our brains points to the
emergence of 'archeypal' forms.
And, ultimately making the leap to our analysis of fundamental particles.
Which has led to the distinctions of two basic types -- fermions and bosons. Is
it coincidence that the general behaviours of these types reflect properties of
objects (fermion-like, no superpositions, discrete) and relationships? And
(boson-like, superpositions, waves) which seem to be a possible link of brain
oscillation behaviour and the resulting patterns to the beginnings of the
universe based on the oscillations, the dynamics of fermion/boson interactions?
A quote from the American Institute of Physics:
"A superfluid is a liquid that flows without viscosity or inner friction. For
a liquid to become superfluid, the atoms or molecules making up the liquid must
be cooled or "condensed" to the point at which they all occupy the same quantum
state. A liquid of helium-3, an atom whose nucleus is made up of an odd number
of particles, is a type of particle known as a fermion. Groups of fermions are
not allowed to occupy the same quantum state.
By cooling the liquid to a low enough temperature, helium-3 atoms can pair up
(left panel). The number of particles in each nucleus adds up to an even number,
making it a type of particle known as a boson. Groups of bosons can fall into
the same quantum state, and therefore superfluidity can be achieved. Helium-4
(middle panel), a boson, does not need to pair up to form a superfluid; groups
of helium-4 atoms condense into the superfluid state at about 2 degrees above
absolute zero. Superfluidity, especially the kind that exists in helium-3, is
analogous to conventional low-temperature superconductivity, in which electrons
flow through certain metals and alloys without resistance. In a superconductor
(right panel), electrons, which are fermions, pair up in the metal crystal to
form "Cooper pairs," bosons which can then condense into a superconducting
state."
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg1612...ic-crystal.html
Barry wrote:
Dear David,
Thanks for a very well written description of this concept. I
generally use one of Hans Jenny's videos in my workshop to illustrate
this concept.
If I might add a bit on to your explanation and relate it to ORMUS:
Imagine that the ORMUS elements can function as quantum coherent
resonators. Now imagine that these resonators hang out inside of the
balloon and that the balloon is a water molecule. If the resonators
changed frequency then the shape of the water molecules would change
in response.
I have written three articles on this theory starting in 2002:
http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/box.htm
2004 from my Workshop slide show:
http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/resonance.htm
2006:
http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/spincoherence.htm
At 09:44 PM 7/13/2007, you wrote:
>Hi Bo,
>
> You are on to something!
>
> You are getting into Sympathetic Vibration & Fractal
> Geometry. From a physics [ PHI - CYCLES ] point of view, the
> fundamental basis of all natural phenomena is vibration. All
> natural forces manifest to us in a vibratory or cyclical manner.
>
> Standing Waves - sound and form - When a vibration or wave
> reflects off of something, such as another wave, it can interfere
> with its own reflection. The interference is alternately
> constructive or destructive as the two waves move past each other.
> This creates a standing wave . Only waves with certain frequencies
> can create standing waves. This is because the distance from one
> node to the next must always be some fraction of the total length
> (one half, one third, etc.).
>
> All objects have a frequency or set of frequencies with which
> they naturally resonate when struck, plucked, strummed or somehow
> disturbed. Each of the natural frequencies at which an object
> vibrates is associated with a standing wave pattern. When an object
> is forced into resonance vibrations at one of its natural
> frequencies, it vibrates in a manner such that a standing wave is
> formed within the object. So the natural frequencies of an object
> are merely the harmonic frequencies at which standing wave patterns
> are established within the object.
>
> These standing wave patterns represent the lowest energy
> vibrational modes of the object or complex system. While there are
> countless way by which an object can vibrate (each associated with
> a specific frequency), objects favor only a few specific modes or
> patterns of vibrating.
>
>The favored modes (patterns) of vibration are those which result in
>the highest amplitude vibrations with the least input of energy.
>
> In 3D standing waves, a structure, with all characteristics of a
> platonic solid, is formed for each standing wave mode. Within an
> atom, which is the building block of matter, the platonic solid is
> not formed by salt or known particles, but by electromagnetic waves in vacuum.
>
>Both the students of Buckminster Fuller and his protege Dr. Hans
>Jenny devised clever experiments that showed how the Platonic Solids
>would form within a vibrating / pulsating 3D sphere.
>
>In the experiment conducted by Fuller's students, a spherical
>balloon was dipped in dye and pulsed with pure sine wave sound
>frequencies. A small number of evenly-distanced nodes would form
>across the surface of the sphere, as well as thin lines that
>connected them to each other.
>
>If you have four evenly spaced nodes, you will see a tetrahedron.
>Six evenly spaced nodes form an octahedron.
>Eight evenly spaced nodes form a cube.
>Twelve evenly spaced nodes form the icosahedron
>and twenty evenly spaced nodes form the dodecahedron.
>
>The straight lines that we see on these geometric objects simply
>represent the stresses that are created by the closest distance
>between two points for each of the nodes as they distribute
>themselves across the entire surface of the sphere
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