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[Still Waters]

www.telegraph.co.uk said:

British farming soil could run out within 60 years, leading to a catastrophic food crisis and drastically higher prices for consumers, scientists warn.

Fertile soil is being lost faster than it can be replenished and will eventually lead to the “topsoil bank” becoming empty, an Australian conference heard.

Chronic soil mismanagement and over farming causing erosion, climate change and increasing populations were to blame for the dramatic global decline in suitable farming soil, scientists said.

An estimated 75 billion tonnes of soil is lost annually with more than 80 per cent of the world's farming land "moderately or severely eroded", the Carbon Farming conference heard.

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[Br Cornelius]

Biggest crisis man faces.

I told you so. Our environment is ****ed big time.

Br Cornelius

[jules99]

Over a 1000 years ago soil was supplimented with sewage that conditioned the soil and helped the crops. It would be better than pumping it out into the ocean like is done in Australia.

[Br Cornelius]

jules99, on 04 February 2010 - 05:36 AM, said:

Over a 1000 years ago soil was supplimented with sewage that conditioned the soil and helped the crops. It would be better than pumping it out into the ocean like is done in Australia.

The problem is that modern agriculture has replaced hummus with artificial fertilizers which deplete soil structure over time. It is unlikely that there would be enough hummus available to rebuild the soil structure to adequate levels - even if that was what was been taught in agricultural colleges.

Br Cornelius

[danielost]

Br Cornelius, on 04 February 2010 - 09:12 AM, said:

The problem is that modern agriculture has replaced hummus with artificial fertilizers which deplete soil structure over time. It is unlikely that there would be enough hummus available to rebuild the soil structure to adequate levels - even if that was what was been taught in agricultural colleges.

Br Cornelius

thus is true.  but as has been stated we are not giving the soil a year off every seven to rest and recupe.

[Neognosis]

why don't we take the organic garbage we produce and compost it in massive quantities?

[danielost]

Neognosis, on 04 February 2010 - 03:24 PM, said:

why don't we take the organic garbage we produce and compost it in massive quantities?

because that would kill the artificle fertalizer business.

[Br Cornelius]

Neognosis, on 04 February 2010 - 03:24 PM, said:

why don't we take the organic garbage we produce and compost it in massive quantities?

Indeed.

Br Cornelius

[ninjadude]

Still Waters, the initial part of the article says BRIT soil not WORLD soil. World soil running out in 60 years is pure BS.

[el midgetron]

ninjadude, on 05 February 2010 - 02:40 AM, said:

Still Waters, the initial part of the article says BRIT soil not WORLD soil. World soil running out in 60 years is pure BS.

Article's title -

Britain facing food crisis as world's soil 'vanishes in 60 years'

Maybe you would benefit from clicking on the link and reading before you post?

[ninjadude]

el midgetron, on 05 February 2010 - 03:10 AM, said:

Article's title -

Britain facing food crisis as world's soil 'vanishes in 60 years'

Maybe you would benefit from clicking on the link and reading before you post?

But the title of the THREAD says "World's soil could run out in 60 years" ??

[el midgetron]

ninjadude, on 05 February 2010 - 03:31 AM, said:

But the title of the THREAD says "World's soil could run out in 60 years" ??

And thats what the articles is saying..............

"The conference heard world soil, including European and British soils, could vanish within about 60 years if drastic action was not taken."

The articles's title again...........

Britain facing food crisis as world's soil 'vanishes in 60 years'

Its a story from a British site. Is that whats confusing you?

[ninjadude]

el midgetron, on 05 February 2010 - 04:14 AM, said:

And thats what the articles is saying..............

"The conference heard world soil, including European and British soils, could vanish within about 60 years if drastic action was not taken."

The articles's title again...........

Britain facing food crisis as world's soil 'vanishes in 60 years'

Its a story from a British site. Is that whats confusing you?

I still don't believe it. I grew up in the great plains of the US. I'd have to see more evidence.

[THE MATRIX]

And no one in Britain has even considered hydrophonics as an alternative?

Edited by wolfram&hart12345, 07 February 2010 - 06:24 AM.

[danielost]

ninjadude, on 06 February 2010 - 04:34 AM, said:

I still don't believe it. I grew up in the great plains of the US. I'd have to see more evidence.

oh the us government believes it.  the farmers believe it.  that is why most started rotating crops.  but rotating does not give the ground a rest.