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[DONTEATUS]

Theres no need for th emath Look at the object in relation to the wings and the time and est,distance it travels.  at least 6 times as fast as the Airliner ,Just an rough est,by the way !

[Englishgent]

Paxus, on 06 April 2012 - 08:29 PM, said:

This is EXACTLY another one of those that I keep saying isn't worth posting!!!
What's the point in speculating about a fuzzy little blob?!?!!?!?
SERIOUSLY?!

Again and again, you people speculate like loons over a little fuzz!

Unless you saw it and how it moved etc... maybe then you might have something interesting to say but just a still picture of a light little nothing?? Nah, don't waste my internet time....

If you people keep posting rubbish, I'm leaving for another 3 months!
I'll do it!

Do it

[zoser]

Duplicate

Edited by zoser, 07 April 2012 - 07:32 AM.

[zoser]

1963, on 06 April 2012 - 11:10 PM, said:

Reminds me of these two recent videos that were taken from aeroplane windows around the Netherlands area...



and..

http://www.youtube.c...&v=nwBCQmbiVwE#

Cheers.

More good footage; well done.  Too many of these for them all to be hoaxes.  What are they?  How many of them are in earth's atmosphere at any one time?Where are they from?  Are they tracked on radar?  If not why not?  What is the propulsion technology?  These are the questions we should be asking rather than are they real or not!

Edited by zoser, 07 April 2012 - 07:32 AM.

[badeskov]

zoser, on 07 April 2012 - 07:30 AM, said:

More good footage; well done.  Too many of these for them all to be hoaxes.  What are they?  How many of them are in earth's atmosphere at any one time?Where are they from?  Are they tracked on radar?  If not why not?  What is the propulsion technology?  These are the questions we should be asking rather than are they real or not!

Oh really?! And you deduce this how exactly?

Cheers,
Badeskov

[Chrlzs]

DONTEATUS, on 07 April 2012 - 01:37 AM, said:

Theres no need for th emath

Nah, ya right mate, who needs it!!

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Look at the object in relation to the wings and the time and est,distance it travels.  at least 6 times as fast as the Airliner

Ah, when you 'splain it that way, it's perfectly obvious..!!!

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Just an rough est,by the way !

Yeah, cobber, rough as!  In fact, down here we say - 'rough as guts'.

I shall refrain from any further photogrammetry on this thread..    Zoser's here now, so everything is under control.

[RingFenceTheCity]

It's a good piece of footage. It reminded me of this

[RingFenceTheCity]

zoser, on 07 April 2012 - 07:30 AM, said:

More good footage; well done.  Too many of these for them all to be hoaxes.  What are they?  How many of them are in earth's atmosphere at any one time?Where are they from?  Are they tracked on radar?  If not why not?  What is the propulsion technology?  These are the questions we should be asking rather than are they real or not!

Agreed.

[RingFenceTheCity]

If a biological entity, then it appears to be able to fly in any direction using a new pulse propulsion technique and perhaps the super-speed is near super-sonic and creates water droplets in the air with every wingbeat, hence the white fuzzy orbs?

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The unique effect occurs in the moments before when a plane exceeds 741mph to break the sound barrier – the speed at which sound travels. When a jet hits high speeds a vapour cone gathers, getting larger and larger, until the sonic boom. Then it vanishes. The 'cone' effect can occur at lower speeds - and in itself, isn't a 'picture' of a plane passing the sound barrier (although air show photographers are often happy to say it is). The moment the jet breaks the barrier is lightning fast – it happens within 1/1000 of a second.
As Mr Ashton-Moore explains: ‘The effect is only visible for a fraction of a second at a time, so timing is critical. I chose this one image because the regular cone shape is not visible so it looks like the plane is appearing from inside its own cloud.’
The vapour cone is also known - less snappily - as the Prandtl-Glauert singularity, shock collar, and shock egg.
Many photographers say the best moment is down to pure judgement. Seasoned photographers also recommend putting the camera on manual settings - there's no way to capture the effect when the camera's on auto.

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Edited by tailormaneinafog, 10 April 2012 - 10:53 AM.

[Teslasparkgap]

UFO Caught From Plane Over Australia seems to be flying OK, no problem.
The Mexico UFO ship has been in hover too long.
There appears to be a tail of nitrogen flames besides being surrounded by
electrostatic air illuminations.

[psyche101]

tailormaneinafog, on 10 April 2012 - 10:49 AM, said:

If a biological entity, then it appears to be able to fly in any direction using a new pulse propulsion technique and perhaps the super-speed is near super-sonic and creates water droplets in the air with every wingbeat, hence the white fuzzy orbs?

It's not a Hyrax.

[psyche101]

For this one time I have to agree with Zosers first comment. Note, not the second one. Just one.

Hath hell frozen over?

I agree in that I think it is too bland for CGI. Canberra is Australia's capital city. It is home to Parliament House and a great deal of politicians. Security is high all the time. As such, I would suggest a low flying fighter. With the sweep wings in, it could well be someting like this at low altitude moving at high speed. Distance could provide enough distortion to create an ellipsoid illusion. In any case, I see no reason to think the object is an alien craft.

Edited by psyche101, 11 April 2012 - 05:18 AM.

[RingFenceTheCity]

Teslasparkgap, on 11 April 2012 - 01:46 AM, said:

UFO Caught From Plane Over Australia seems to be flying OK, no problem.
The Mexico UFO ship has been in hover too long.
There appears to be a tail of nitrogen flames besides being surrounded by
electrostatic air illuminations.

Ha, funny
To explain further:

I'm thinking about survivors from the freezing over of the Antarctic continent. This giant landmass has occupied the same southerly position since evolution began imv. The dinosaurs remains are renowned for being 'less developed' than dinosaurs of the other continents due to the 6 months of darkness that they had to endure. I imagine that this unique set of circumstances led to a unique set of evolutionary survival techniques. A 'bird' which could hover over still water and use magnetism to detect fish and eels in the darkness below would be highly advantageous. Hence a new near-hovering technique using the feet for lift with the wings held out permanently in a slow glide would be ideal. More energy efficient than beating the wings for example. As the conditions for life got progressively worse and worse, animals which migrated to the sunny spots would have the advantage. Things that flew would have yet more of an advantage. Eventually these flying migrators would have the continent to themselves and have a mini-population explosion. Some of these could easily have been blown off the continent to South America and even Australia. Then the Antarctic cold would take even these super-species to extinction, leaving the survivors to befuddle our consciences for ever more..

I'm still researching this idea and would guess that a 'black Antartic owl' is the 10ft wingspan Mothman and Owlman with the red eyes and magnetic stare. The reports of a smaller green lizard-like creature which can fly with amazing speed and is bioluminescent is something more akin to an 'archaic flying lizard' or a species of microraptor, see my avatar for a picture. This appears to be able to fly vertically using a new pulse propulsion technique and perhaps the super-speed is super-sonic and creates water droplets in the air with every wingbeat, hence the white fuzzy orbs?

The microraptor shown in my avatar is the origin species of our modern birds. They were tree gliders which evolved true flight ability. The continents were once connected, and these first flyers were on every continent we now have. I'm suggesting that the *unique* Antarctic position had 6 months of darkness and cold which led to a unique survival strategy for one of these flyers. Very low speed gliding just using the feet for propulsion, the wings left outstretched for maximum lift. If a shark or predator fish lept out of the water to catch the bird, the wings would come down in a super-fast time so that it could escape directly overhead. The rest is history.

[booNyzarC]

Pretty obvious what that is.




Nanu Nanu

[Rafterman]

I'd be interested in any thoughts about the plane's altitude.

It's clearly coming in for a landing and not only is it right above the cloud formation, but if you continue watching, you'll see hilltops poking up through those clouds.

Given that the object in question is BELOW the aircraft, it's traveling at a high rate of speed just above the ground apparently.

I'd say that's more evidence for this being a CGI hoax.