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#76    Copasetic

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:07 PM

View PostSeeker79, on 12 December 2012 - 08:06 PM, said:

A goat noise? Ok that's funny, but I have seen you do many times to others.



Quote it retract it.

Advanced search finds 2 instances of posts from me with "haha"--Both from quoting other people. Didn't happen dude. You need a better memory or to stop confusing me with others.

Edit: This would probably be a sweet segue into some rambling post on preconceived stereotypes and projections (you know the defense mechanism kind). But my time on winter break is only so long and I have other things to do!

Edited by Copasetic, 12 December 2012 - 08:13 PM.


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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:10 PM

View PostCopasetic, on 12 December 2012 - 07:56 PM, said:



I want to point something else out. You say that as if its an incredibly hard thing to do. Again, your naivety about academia is hanging out in the open (maybe you like to leave those parts hang out to, just like the other ones you wanted to show BM--BTW do you have your chest hair count in yet?)

If you have some sound (or even sometimes not so sound) science to do, hypotheses, experiments, etc its easy as warm apple pie to get grants. No seriously, have you any idea how easy it is to get grants for studies (insert ridiculous research here <--I'm a link in case your not savvy enough to notice)?
And I would think your arrogance hangs out. I do live outside of academia, thank god, while you think it makes me nieve, I think I can look at it from the outside critically, rather than be mired in it.

In business, we laugh at what academia has to offer the business world.

I think there is a rodney dangerfield movie about that "back to school" I think.

Edited by Seeker79, 12 December 2012 - 08:16 PM.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:14 PM

View PostCopasetic, on 12 December 2012 - 08:05 PM, said:



What about you, are you immune?
Of course, I'm seeker79 ;)

Are you?

"I wish neither to possess, Nor to be possessed. I no longer covet paradise, more important, I no longer fear hell. The medicine for my suffering I had within me from the very beginning, but I did not take it. My ailment came from within myself, But I did not observe it until this moment. Now I see that I will never find the light.  Unless, like the candle, I am my own fuel, Consuming myself. "
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:17 PM

View PostSeeker79, on 12 December 2012 - 08:10 PM, said:

And I would think your arrogance hangs out. I do live outside of academia, thank god, while you think it makes me nieve, I think I can look at it from the outside critically, rather than be mired in it.

In business, we laugh at what academia has to offer the business world.

My arrogance? Your the one making up lies about me!?!

Uh, yes it does make you naive. The same way someone outside of NASA would be naive about the inner workings of NASA. Or the same way someone outside of the NFL, would be naive about the going-ons of the NFL locker room.

Not sure what is so funny about academia though from a business prospective. From someone who owns a business (even whilst back in school) ideas from academia make money!!!


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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:18 PM

View PostCopasetic, on 12 December 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:



Quote it retract it.

Advanced search finds 2 instances of posts from me with "haha"--Both from quoting other people. Didn't happen dude. You need a better memory or to stop confusing me with others.

Edit: This would probably be a sweet segue into some rambling post on preconceived stereotypes and projections (you know the defense mechanism kind). But my time on winter break is only so long and I have other things to do!
Dude.... On of the first arguments I had with you, I got pmed warning me how much ridicule you were going to throw my way. Just look back on your post here and figure it out. It's not hard to miss.

"I wish neither to possess, Nor to be possessed. I no longer covet paradise, more important, I no longer fear hell. The medicine for my suffering I had within me from the very beginning, but I did not take it. My ailment came from within myself, But I did not observe it until this moment. Now I see that I will never find the light.  Unless, like the candle, I am my own fuel, Consuming myself. "
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:21 PM

View PostSeeker79, on 12 December 2012 - 08:14 PM, said:

Of course, I'm seeker79 ;)

Are you?

No not at all. After all I am a human. However I try to be aware of my biases and cognitive deficits.

I was all prepared to say what a great scientist you'd make--Being aware of your own, however that seems it isn't the case!


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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:23 PM

View PostCopasetic, on 12 December 2012 - 08:17 PM, said:



My arrogance? Your the one making up lies about me!?!

Uh, yes it does make you naive. The same way someone outside of NASA would be naive about the inner workings of NASA. Or the same way someone outside of the NFL, would be naive about the going-ons of the NFL locker room.

Not sure what is so funny about academia though from a business prospective. From someone who owns a business (even whilst back in school) ideas from academia make money!!!
Ideas don't make money, business people make money.

An NFL locker room really? Epitomie of unrestrained group and click like behavior.

NASA?... Is overseen by outsiders for a reason. I think it's called congress.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:23 PM

View PostSeeker79, on 12 December 2012 - 08:18 PM, said:

Dude.... On of the first arguments I had with you, I got pmed warning me how much ridicule you were going to throw my way. Just look back on your post here and figure it out. It's not hard to miss.

So you're saying you let someone else form your opinion of me for you--And you've been laboring under that assumption (and you know what they say about assumptions, eh?) ever since? Hawt dude.

Again please provide a quote of my evil scientist laughing or retract it.

Edited by Copasetic, 12 December 2012 - 08:29 PM.


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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:24 PM

View PostCopasetic, on 12 December 2012 - 08:21 PM, said:



No not at all. After all I am a human. However I try to be aware of my biases and cognitive deficits.

I was all prepared to say what a great scientist you'd make--Being aware of your own, however that seems it isn't the case!
Oh boy... With all your sarcasim, I thought you'd get that one.

"I wish neither to possess, Nor to be possessed. I no longer covet paradise, more important, I no longer fear hell. The medicine for my suffering I had within me from the very beginning, but I did not take it. My ailment came from within myself, But I did not observe it until this moment. Now I see that I will never find the light.  Unless, like the candle, I am my own fuel, Consuming myself. "
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:26 PM

View PostSeeker79, on 12 December 2012 - 08:23 PM, said:

Ideas don't make money, business people make money.

Tell that to the quarter million dollars I've made off protein ladders. Sure, hustlers might make money--But even business people need ideas to make money off of. Even phoney ideas can make money--lots of it. If I didn't have this damn conscious I'd be lighting my cigars with 100 dolla bills from all the money I could make peddling crap that sounds scientific and useful. 100 dolla bills$

A nice tie in back to your OP--The author!

Edited by Copasetic, 12 December 2012 - 08:29 PM.


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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:31 PM

View PostCopasetic, on 12 December 2012 - 08:26 PM, said:



Tell that to the quarter million dollars I've made off protein ladders. Sure, hustlers might make money--But even business people need ideas to make money off of.
If you marketed it, and implement the business then you are a business person. If you hired a business person to do it for you, then it wasn't totally the idea it was the people. Many great ideas that could make money don't because of lak of business ability.

Dogma in the scientific community is not phony. I have spoken with PhDs in physics and chemistry, and they pretty much all agree. ( the ones I have spoken to anyway). Academia is political just like everything else. Sometimes it's a good idea to be skeptical of the skeptical.

Edited by Seeker79, 12 December 2012 - 08:35 PM.

"I wish neither to possess, Nor to be possessed. I no longer covet paradise, more important, I no longer fear hell. The medicine for my suffering I had within me from the very beginning, but I did not take it. My ailment came from within myself, But I did not observe it until this moment. Now I see that I will never find the light.  Unless, like the candle, I am my own fuel, Consuming myself. "
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:34 PM

View PostSeeker79, on 12 December 2012 - 08:31 PM, said:

If you marketed it, and implement the business then you are a business person. If you hired a business person to do it for you, then it wasn't totally to idea it was the people. Many great ideas that could make money don't because of lak of business ability.

Yes, I am unscrupulous jack of many trades. I never claimed ideas don't need a business person. You need both.

You on the other hand made a claim 100% in the other direction. Here let me take advantage of this nifty quote system to remind you:

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Ideas don't make money, business people make money.

(see how I did that thar, instead of just shoving words into the horses mouth I went and got the horse for all to see!)

Absolutism is absolute!

Edited by Copasetic, 12 December 2012 - 08:37 PM.


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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:37 PM

View PostCopasetic, on 12 December 2012 - 08:34 PM, said:



Yes, I am unscrupulous jack of many trades. I never claimed ideas don't need a business person. You need both.

You on the other hand made a claim 100% in the other direction. Here let me take advantage of this nifty quote system to remind you:



Absolutism is absolute!
The idea did not do a dam thing. You did... Anyway irrelevant.

"I wish neither to possess, Nor to be possessed. I no longer covet paradise, more important, I no longer fear hell. The medicine for my suffering I had within me from the very beginning, but I did not take it. My ailment came from within myself, But I did not observe it until this moment. Now I see that I will never find the light.  Unless, like the candle, I am my own fuel, Consuming myself. "
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:38 PM

View PostSeeker79, on 12 December 2012 - 08:37 PM, said:

The idea did not do a dam thing. You did... Anyway irrelevant.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:40 PM

View PostCopasetic, on 12 December 2012 - 08:23 PM, said:



So you're saying you let someone else form your opinion of me for you--And you've been laboring under that assumption (and you know what they say about assumptions, eh?) ever since? Hawt dude.

Again please provide a quote of my evil scientist laughing or retract it.
Yes that's exactly what I did.... Sheesh... I did not have to assume anything, all I needed to do was see how you interact with others. I told the person who pmed me not to worry I have argued with know-it-alls before.

"I wish neither to possess, Nor to be possessed. I no longer covet paradise, more important, I no longer fear hell. The medicine for my suffering I had within me from the very beginning, but I did not take it. My ailment came from within myself, But I did not observe it until this moment. Now I see that I will never find the light.  Unless, like the candle, I am my own fuel, Consuming myself. "
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