"bigfoot" fossil record

[pokingjoker]

First off by no means am I an expert in any field...except for being awesome. Just thinking about this commonly asked question, why no fossil record has been found. Now my understanding is fossils are pretty rare. Yes we have probably millions on record but there are most likely many animals in the world that weren't in the right place at the right time to become fossilized. Our fossil record is grossly limited to the animals that were preserved. Most climates, areas just are not, were not able to preserve the bodies, hence why you can't just dog a hole in your back yard and find a trex....thoughts....

[+Hammerclaw]

Of course, something doesn't exist leaves no fossils, either. Now which could it be?

[Atuke]

I believe Sasquatch to be human and not ape at all. They are animals as we are animals but that's it, just living life in their world and perspective. So their bones are out there and have been found...human bones since they are human. And their stature for the most part has been exaggerated. Just like the 13" bass you catch turns into a 20". I believe Sasquatch bones are in plain sight and have been discovered but we just haven't realized it.

[HMS Dreadnought]

You can't find bones from something that doesn't exist.

[freetoroam]

First off by no means am I an expert in any field...except for being awesome. Just thinking about this commonly asked question, why no fossil record has been found. Now my understanding is fossils are pretty rare. Yes we have probably millions on record but there are most likely many animals in the world that weren't in the right place at the right time to become fossilized. Our fossil record is grossly limited to the animals that were preserved. Most climates, areas just are not, were not able to preserve the bodies, hence why you can't just dog a hole in your back yard and find a trex....thoughts....

1st, not many admit to being awesome, but hey, nice to know you are bappy with yourself.

2 nd, Right, back on topic:

Fossils date back to thousands of years, bigfoot ( according to some who have Allegedly seen him/her) is more recent, hence no fossils... but a bit of poo would be nice or even a hair or a tooth, but so far, we have nothing!

Edited November 13, 2014 by freetoroam

[KevinP]

When it comes to poo, I have often wondered how some old poo can really determine the creature it came from. First you have the DNA from the creature that was eaten, then you have DNA from several different kinds of bacteria that live in the digestive tract, not to mention DNA from the various insects that will feed from the poo once deposited. And, oh yeah, the actual creature it came from.

[HMS Dreadnought]

When it comes to poo, I have often wondered how some old poo can really determine the creature it came from. First you have the DNA from the creature that was eaten, then you have DNA from several different kinds of bacteria that live in the digestive tract, not to mention DNA from the various insects that will feed from the poo once deposited. And, oh yeah, the actual creature it came from.

You really spend too much time thinking about faeces

[acute]

Whoops! Wrong thread!

Edited November 13, 2014 by acute

[KevinP]

You really spend too much time thinking about faeces

True, when it comes down to it, you can't tell whose poo is whose, for all I know someone took a sample of a deposit I made while hunting one day. I'd find it deeply disturbing to discover my poo came from a Bigfoot.

[+Hammerclaw]

Something that doesn't exist leaves no scat. Bigfoot couldn't have appeared out of thin air, either. It's not Bigfoot, it's human? So, it's either a Hippy or a Werewolf?

[stereologist]

Fossils are somewhat rare. Often they are very poorly preserved. Fossils are typically found in sedimentary rocks although they are also found in metamorphic rocks and in igneous rocks.

Fossils form where deposition takes place. That is where the materials to form rocks accumulate. Animals that live on mountain tops are unlikely to be preserved. Most fossils are marine fossils. brachiopods are supposed to be 98% of all fossils.They live in an environment where fossil formation is likely to take place.

The fossil record may be limited, but in science that is a recognized limitation. The reason you can't dig a hole in your backyard and find a T-Rex is that the age of the rocks in your backyard is unlikely to be of the correct age. T-Rex won't be found in Paleozoic rocks or in Cenozoic rocks. You need the correct rock age. When fossil hunters are looking for particular fossils they can examine geological maps to locate rocks of the correct age. Within that area they look for rocks that are likely to be of the correct environment. Can't find T-Rex in rocks that are from a marine environment.

It takes time to form fossils. True, but if the material has not had a chance to fossilize then it can be in the form of fossil wood from some areas where part of the material is rock and inside is still wood.

The lack of fossil evidence, hair, bone, or teeth from bigfoot suggests that the creature does not exist.

[Rafterman]

Clearly this guy's fault...

[Sakari]

First off by no means am I an expert in any field...except for being awesome. Just thinking about this commonly asked question, why no fossil record has been found. Now my understanding is fossils are pretty rare. Yes we have probably millions on record but there are most likely many animals in the world that weren't in the right place at the right time to become fossilized. Our fossil record is grossly limited to the animals that were preserved. Most climates, areas just are not, were not able to preserve the bodies, hence why you can't just dog a hole in your back yard and find a trex....thoughts....

The Pacific Northwest is an amazing area for fossils. While we do not have the dinosaur bragging rights of our cousins to the east and south, we have beautiful plant, mammal and marine fossils that rival the world. read more

http://www.science20.com/fossil_huntress/fossil_sites_pacific_northwest

http://www.dinosaurhome.com/pacific-northwest-fossil-collecting-83.html

http://www.dnr.wa.gov/RecreationEducation/Topics/HarvestingCollecting/Pages/fossil_collecting.aspx

http://www.nwpaleo.org/resources.html

[Bluenose Bulwark]

Bigfoot is believed to be surviving remnants of Gigantopithecus. There have been plenty of fossils found to support it's existence. What the living hell are you all rattling on about nothing ever being found? The remnants aren't current, but they are there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigantopithecus#Fossil_remains

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/did-bigfoot-really-exist-how-gigantopithecus-became-extinct-16649201/?no-ist

http://www.uiowa.edu/~bioanth/giganto.html

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/12/1208_051208_giant_ape.html

[+Hammerclaw]

Gigantopithecus was a quadruped great ape, not a biped and no fossil of the species has ever been found in the Americas. http://www.prehistor...topithecus.html http://www.uiowa.edu/~bioanth/giganto.html

Edited November 13, 2014 by Hammerclaw

[stereologist]

Poor porcupine cannot be blamed for the lack of bigfoot bones since the porcupine does not completely overlap the entire range of where bigfoot has been spotted.

[V.Predoev]

What if they are immortal?

[KevinP]

Then shooting one is only going to p*** them off. I might need to have an alternate plan, just in case.

[Nnicolette]

I think its hilarious that people can be so sure that animals don't exist just because one never introduced himself to them personally. I mean you tell somebody there's an animal in the forest and it must be a lie if you didn't shoot it and yet more people are willing to believe there's an animal flying around the woods in a highly technological spaceship from another planet.

[+Hammerclaw]

After waiting half a century and still nothing, and it's pretty easy to come to that conclusion. It's not like I haven't been patient.

[Patient Zero]

Fossil? No.

But he builds a hell of a teepee!

(i loved that thread.)

[vitruvian12]

Bigfoot is believed to be surviving remnants of Gigantopithecus. There have been plenty of fossils found to support it's existence. What the living hell are you all rattling on about nothing ever being found? The remnants aren't current, but they are there.

http://en.wikipedia....#Fossil_remains

http://www.smithsoni...6649201/?no-ist

http://www.uiowa.edu...th/giganto.html

http://news.national..._giant_ape.html

By "plenty" you mean teeth and some jaw bones?

[Kenemet]

True, when it comes down to it, you can't tell whose poo is whose, for all I know someone took a sample of a deposit I made while hunting one day. I'd find it deeply disturbing to discover my poo came from a Bigfoot.

Actually, you CAN tell whose poo it is by shape, texture, diet (and if fresh enough, the DNA.)

And how do I know? I teach outdoor education and I work with some paleontologists on a volunteer basis.

[Imaginarynumber1]

Actually, you CAN tell whose poo it is by shape, texture, diet (and if fresh enough, the DNA.)

And how do I know? I teach outdoor education and I work with some paleontologists on a volunteer basis.

I just compare it to the database of sample jars I have in my basement. ..

[KevinP]

Actually, you CAN tell whose poo it is by shape, texture, diet (and if fresh enough, the DNA.)

And how do I know? I teach outdoor education and I work with some paleontologists on a volunteer basis.

Oh I'm sure there is some manner of determining whose poo is whose, but after having passed through an entire digestive tract and then having spent time on the forest floor.....or wherever, the chances of getting a good sample with definitive DNA gets pretty slim. Please understand that if you are looking for DNA from a known creature, one that you can match DNA to then it's a lot easier than trying to find DNA from an unknown creature and one that might share many genetic markers as other species. Talk about splitting hairs, Holy Cow.