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[Gummug]

ninjadude, on 14 November 2012 - 04:21 AM, said:

in the monumentally remote chance of that, I'd call the police.

What will you do during the 30-40 minutes (or longer) that it takes the police to get there?

[ninjadude]

preacherman76, on 22 November 2012 - 08:05 PM, said:

The second amendment cant be abused. It says the government has no authority to infringe on gun ownership what so ever.

it says no such thing and you know it. they could have said that but did not.

[ninjadude]

Gummug, on 22 November 2012 - 10:46 PM, said:

What will you do during the 30-40 minutes (or longer) that it takes the police to get there?

move into an urban area.

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n an emailed statement, the police department said average response time for "Priority 1" calls, emergencies requiring immediate response, was reduced from 4.01 minutes to 3.46 minutes for the two months. For low prioritoy calls, response time dropped from 6.03 minutes to 5.40 minutes.

http://www.wbez.org/...down-2012-97137

Edited by ninjadude, 23 November 2012 - 12:48 AM.

[Gummug]

I wonder if you read all of your link, Ninjadude? Because it also says this:

"But Fraternal Order of Police President Michael Shields criticized the police department's findings. He said the city's emphasis on beat patrol ties police officers to radio response and keeps them from doing as much preventative work.
"The direct result is they're racing from one 911 call to another 911 call and they don't have the time to do the police work that they used to," said Shields.
Though response times are down in the city in January and February of this year, police crime data said there were 12 more murders in those two months compared to the same time frame last year.
City crime overall was down 13 percent for the same two month period. Murder and shooting incidents were the only two categories with increases."

So it looks like that response time improvement didn't come without a cost.
I also like this quote by Thomas Jefferson:

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government" -- Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Edited by Gummug, 23 November 2012 - 05:11 AM.

[Gummug]

Anyway, here's a link that gives more (from 'both sides of the aisle' imo) ideas:

http://www.city-data...ime-should.html

[F3SS]

ninjadude, on 23 November 2012 - 12:46 AM, said:

move into an urban area.

http://www.wbez.org/...down-2012-97137

If you don't live in a bad neighborhood.

[ninjadude]

Gummug, on 23 November 2012 - 05:07 AM, said:

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government" -- Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

that sounds good in the 18th century when the government really had little military. Today it's just stupid.

[F3SS]

ninjadude, on 23 November 2012 - 08:10 PM, said:

that sounds good in the 18th century when the government really had little military. Today it's just stupid.

You're right. Today we out our heads and tails between our legs and submit like good doggies.

[aztek]

ninjadude, on 23 November 2012 - 12:46 AM, said:

move into an urban area.

http://www.wbez.org/...down-2012-97137

lol, really?? for what for safety? so the cops can get to you faster, before you compleatly cool off?google urban crime stats, than google rural crime stats, than read your post again, but i doubt you will see the dumbness of your statment even then

[Corp]

Think this generally sums things up:

[Gummug]

-Mr_Fess-, on 23 November 2012 - 08:17 PM, said:

You're right. Today we out our heads and tails between our legs and submit like good doggies.

I couldn't have said it better!

[F3SS]

Gummug, on 24 November 2012 - 02:34 AM, said:

I couldn't have said it better!

Seriously. He acts as if we are out here thinking we are all Rambo but that's not really what this is all about.

[AliveInDeath7]

If I didn't have enough already, I'd be doing the same thing.

[Stellar]

questionmark, on 22 November 2012 - 09:12 AM, said:

We don't use Genghis Khan methods like the Russians. Take a good look at Chechnya where the starting position for the Russians was the same as the one in 'Stan.

Im not quite sure what you're trying to say. Is it that the Taliban will not be back in power after we leave because we havent acted like the Soviets?

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no they would not.  when soviets came to Afghan in 79, mujaheddins has flint lock\blackpowder rifles for the most part. they would not get there if it wasn't for us\pak help.

Regardless of how they got the weapons, the fact is that they had weapons to resist with.

Hell, if they had modern AKs instead of flintlocks, they probably wouldnt have needed outside intervention to arm them and put them in a better position to resist....

[odiesbsc]

Gummug, on 22 November 2012 - 10:46 PM, said:

What will you do during the 30-40 minutes (or longer) that it takes the police to get there?

The response time for a 911 call is 5 to 20 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second.

Odie