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#1    Still Waters

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 01:50 PM

Humans are a plague on the Earth that need to be controlled by limiting population growth, according to Sir David Attenborough.

The television presenter said that humans are threatening their own existence and that of other species by using up the world’s resources.

He said the only way to save the planet from famine and species extinction is to limit human population growth.

http://www.telegraph...tenborough.html

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 02:34 PM

He has a point.

I don't agree with killing people or making people infertile etc.

But sex education is a good step along with other ethical methods.

Also less money into war and other stupid things.. Stick it into space exploration so we can shift our population around other planets. (if it's possible)


We should be thinking more collectively as a species and less singularly. (less selfish)

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 02:36 PM

Cannot disagree with his main point, but like Coffey I can't advocate genocide.  Humans have screwed up this planet in so many ways.


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Posted 22 January 2013 - 05:03 PM

He advocated sex education and never mentioned anything which could vaguely be considered as genocide.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 07:42 AM

We are not the plague, but the earth has a fever, and she will vomit out her inhabitants.

The stage is set, a table is prepared ...



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Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:19 PM

I could not agree more with sir david.We seem to think that we are the chosen one,s, far from it.If something is not done soon we will destroy the world.


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Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:36 PM

ehm yes: One planet sees the other in the universe, asks the first: "How is it?". "Well", responds the second, "I got me a skin disease".  "Really? What is it called?", inquires the first. "Humans"

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:38 PM

We're a species that has evolved in a manner to use it's environment in a wasteful manner, does this make us a 'plague'? Sure... in your human language it does, in nature we're just another thing that's doing it's thang, it'll toss us or not. The whole of nature cares not for the individual species or environment.

I guess I just don't like being told by a human being that I'm an awful human being for being a human being and being around other human beings and making more human beings.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:41 PM

View PostHasina, on 23 January 2013 - 02:38 PM, said:

We're a species that has evolved in a manner to use it's environment in a wasteful manner, does this make us a 'plague'? Sure... in your human language it does, in nature we're just another thing that's doing it's thang, it'll toss us or not. The whole of nature cares not for the individual species or environment.

I guess I just don't like being told by a human being that I'm an awful human being for being a human being and being around other human beings and making more human beings.
Indeed you are right - but personally thats little comfort to me.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:44 PM

View PostBr Cornelius, on 23 January 2013 - 02:41 PM, said:

Indeed you are right - but personally thats little comfort to me.

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Totally understandable. A forest fire may help make the soil become more fertile but we still flee from that shizz. It's not wrong to curb ourselves, but I just detest this attitude towards our own species, I feel it even factors into our generations current pessimism. We're seen as cruddy home wreckers.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:27 PM

I've long believed that it is the destiny of our species to migrate out into the galaxy and eventually the rest of the multiverse.  If we keep this planet too comfortable and pristine there will be no reason for us to leave, and indeed in order to leave we must expend vast resources.  I do believe that even after most of humanity migrates there will remain humans here on the motherworld and those people with thier by that time godlike technology will return the earth to a near pristine state.  Sir David is an old man approaching the end of his life, he has not much future so it's getting harder for him to see one for the rest of us.

Edited by OverSword, 23 January 2013 - 03:28 PM.


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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:29 PM

View PostHasina, on 23 January 2013 - 02:44 PM, said:

Totally understandable. A forest fire may help make the soil become more fertile but we still flee from that shizz. It's not wrong to curb ourselves, but I just detest this attitude towards our own species, I feel it even factors into our generations current pessimism. We're seen as cruddy home wreckers.
Until you appreciate that you are a cause of a problem you are incapable of changing your behaviour to address the problem. We are a long way off from accepting our culpability in the current planetary crisis. We are intelligent and capable of changing - but there is so much momentum behind our disfunctional behaviour that it will take a mass change of conciousness to do enough. Start with acceptance and from ther build the cure.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:31 PM

View PostOverSword, on 23 January 2013 - 03:27 PM, said:

I've long believed that it is the destiny of our species to migrate out into the galaxy and eventually the rest of the multiverse.  If we keep this planet too comfortable and pristine there will be no reason for us to leave, and indeed in order to leave we must expend vast resources.  I do believe that even after most of humanity migrates there will remain humans here on the motherworld and those people with thier by that time godlike technology will return the earth to a near pristine state.  Sir David is an old man approaching the end of his life, he has not much future so it's getting harder for him to see one for the rest of us.
Until we discover some radical flaw in our understanding of physics that aint physically possible. 40years of expendable basic resources wont give us much chance to radically change physics - even assuming it is possible.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:40 PM

Humanity has completely exploited this planet and now the planet earth can no longer support the burden of this egotistical race.

Human overpopulation is not only very dangerous for the natural world which we have done so much to destroy but also to ourselves. The more humans there are on the planet there will be more suffering, strife and wars.

Hopefully nature will readdress the balance with natural catastrophes which will signifcantly lower the population.

If we decide to take responsibilty for ourselves a solution would be to sterilise large sections of the population.

Humanity has got to remember that it is just one of billions of different species on this planet and it has no right or entitlement to flourish at the expense of other species or to the detriment of the natural world. I hope we get a rude reminder that we're nothing special on this planet!

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:43 PM

View PostBr Cornelius, on 23 January 2013 - 03:29 PM, said:


Until you appreciate that you are a cause of a problem you are incapable of changing your behaviour to address the problem. We are a long way off from accepting our culpability in the current planetary crisis. We are intelligent and capable of changing - but there is so much momentum behind our disfunctional behaviour that it will take a mass change of conciousness to do enough. Start with acceptance and from ther build the cure.

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This is where you and I, and climate change skeptics, do disagree. 'Planetary crisis'? It's climate change caused by a species that evolved naturally and is using the resources of the planet it dwells on. No crisis, just nature. Will it cause problems? Sure. But there will always be climate problems, unless we take a strangle hold approach and devote ourselves to controlling the environment to our liking (and that would still cause problems for other species and natural systems). I guess my whole problem is, I dislike the negative connotation given to our species BY US just for being successful at surviving. Should we care more about other species and watch what we do? We should, yes, our intelligence has given us the ability to self-examine what we've done and want to undo. Must we? No, we're nature, not it's keeper.






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