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#76    quillius

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 08:39 PM

View PostBertL, on 02 December 2010 - 06:59 PM, said:

But quillius, Apollo 11 was broadcasted live from start to finish, with amateur radio enthusiasts listening in to the raw signals. There was pretty much no room for secrecy here.


BertL, hello, I am just trying to say, in my opinion based on simply reading people why they speak, I feel there is something hidden. As I said I am not implying ET, I just think there was a feeling of great discomfort and this was due to what was/was not being said. However, all I have is my opinion and therefore MID's explanation has to be the one we accept with regards to the discomfort being brought on by their hate of public speaking.

To be honest I have not seen much footage or researched the topic at all, it does fascinate me though and I am always curious about most monumental events, so i will surely learn more here on UM...


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Posted 02 December 2010 - 09:41 PM

View Postrajeev shagun, on 02 December 2010 - 12:24 PM, said:

Night before last ,i showed this image  to Maxime ,25 years old ,graduate in math...he knew these people but i didn't tell him about which event it was ...he said " looking worried" When i told about post flight p.c. He was...just speach less.


So am I...


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Posted 03 December 2010 - 01:37 PM

View Postrajeev shagun, on 30 November 2010 - 04:18 AM, said:

RAMBALDI- my conscious never allows me to invent fouls events...

Sure, that's what I would say too.

Seriously can you really not understand the rather simple concept that "an anonymous friend thought it should have looked otherwise" is simply no evidence?


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Posted 03 December 2010 - 10:33 PM

View Postrambaldi, on 03 December 2010 - 01:37 PM, said:


Seriously can you really not understand the rather simple concept that "an anonymous friend thought it should have looked otherwise" is simply no evidence?


I put a very low probability on getting an answer to that question.

LOW:   < 5% chance, maximum.

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Posted 05 December 2010 - 04:43 AM

View Postrambaldi, on 03 December 2010 - 01:37 PM, said:

Sure, that's what I would say too.

Seriously can you really not understand the rather simple concept that "an anonymous friend thought it should have looked otherwise" is simply no evidence?
Sure I do understand …but not a single person have said that they looked happy or in comfortable situation…to me they look no different then PEOPLE THOSE ARE KEPT ON GUN POINT (by AK-47s) BY TERRORISTS…AND DON’T KNOW WHETHER THEY WILL BE ALIVE OR NOT NEXT HOURS.

Edited by rajeev shagun, 05 December 2010 - 04:45 AM.


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Posted 05 December 2010 - 05:08 AM

View Postrajeev shagun, on 05 December 2010 - 04:43 AM, said:

Sure I do understand …but not a single person have said that they looked happy or in comfortable situation…to me they look no different then PEOPLE THOSE ARE KEPT ON GUN POINT (by AK-47s) BY TERRORISTS…AND DON’T KNOW WHETHER THEY WILL BE ALIVE OR NOT NEXT HOURS.

That is the most ridiculous observation I have ever heard. Words fail me.

Edited by Obviousman, 05 December 2010 - 05:10 AM.


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Posted 05 December 2010 - 06:25 AM

View Postrajeev shagun, on 05 December 2010 - 04:43 AM, said:

Sure I do understand …but not a single person have said that they looked happy or in comfortable situation…to me they look no different then PEOPLE THOSE ARE KEPT ON GUN POINT (by AK-47s) BY TERRORISTS…AND DON’T KNOW WHETHER THEY WILL BE ALIVE OR NOT NEXT HOURS.
Seriously?  You mean they don't look like they are tired and not looking forward to a worldwide speaking tour?

AK-47's?  Really?

I'm stealing this video link from bee...  but I don't think there has ever been a more appropriate place for it than right here right now. :mellow:




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Posted 05 December 2010 - 04:00 PM

View Postrajeev shagun, on 05 December 2010 - 04:43 AM, said:

…to me they look no different then PEOPLE THOSE ARE KEPT ON GUN POINT (by AK-47s) BY TERRORISTS…AND DON’T KNOW WHETHER THEY WILL BE ALIVE OR NOT NEXT HOURS.


Since they look like that to you (and of course, I am sure you have vast experience in witnessing people in those circumstances ( :wacko: )), then I assume that we must now all agree with your assessment that they're hiing something, are being told what to say, and they faked the whole thing!

I think I get it.

I was going to ask, "So what if you think so?"

But it's pointles, I realize.
This line of discussion is one of the most ridiculous I've seen in a while...


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Posted 06 December 2010 - 01:47 PM

View PostMID, on 05 December 2010 - 04:00 PM, said:

Since they look like that to you (and of course, I am sure you have vast experience in witnessing people in those circumstances ( :wacko: )), then I assume that we must now all agree with your assessment that they're hiing something, are being told what to say, and they faked the whole thing!

I think I get it.

I was going to ask, "So what if you think so?"

But it's pointles, I realize.
This line of discussion is one of the most ridiculous I've seen in a while...
I do not say this just because I think Apollo was a hoax but honestly they look too worried to me …this is just my personal opinion though…last afternoon when I showed it to 3 person …first 22 years old (studding to be a policeman) second his brother 28 years old civil servant and third 26 years old studding to be a male nurse…I ask them “any sign of happiness” they all shook their head and said “no…not at all”…one said “they can’t be this worried after having  achieved that big goal”


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Posted 06 December 2010 - 02:16 PM

Rajeev, are you ever going to produce any ACTUAL evidence of anything at all? To be honest I'm bored with hearing what your imaginary friends think. It's pointless and meaningless.

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Posted 06 December 2010 - 10:20 PM

View Postrajeev shagun, on 06 December 2010 - 01:47 PM, said:

I do not say this just because I think Apollo was a hoax but honestly they look too worried to me …this is just my personal opinion though…last afternoon when I showed it to 3 person …first 22 years old (studding to be a policeman) second his brother 28 years old civil servant and third 26 years old studding to be a male nurse…I ask them “any sign of happiness” they all shook their head and said “no…not at all”…one said “they can’t be this worried after having  achieved that big goal”


To echo Waspie (in a way...):

So What?

Because you think they look worried (we know it's your personal opinion, and it doesn't matter, as you don't know these men, you don't know what they'd just been through, you don't understand their demeanors, and you have no idea what they were about to face) means nothing.

Nor does it mean anything that you elicit responses from a bunch of people who read their faces and come up with similar impressions, without the benefit of any personal knowledge about who they are, what they're like,  and what's going on.

Is there something of value you could come up with here?



It's time to drop this non-issue.


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Posted 07 December 2010 - 12:20 PM

Just my thoughts...

These guys had been working/training/flying/debriefing/decontaminating together for about a year or so. They had just finished the most demanding ands stressful mission ever flown. Now they have to face the public with all the pomp and ceremony which none of them cared for. They weren't close friends, and there was significant animosity in some areas.

So the idea that they were about to undertake this enmormous "chore" was also weighing on them...answering stupid questions, all the parades and bands...not their cup of tea. Not surprisingly, this was reflected in their demeanor during the press conference.

Just my impressions.


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Posted 07 December 2010 - 03:06 PM

I probably saw this press conference at the time, although I cannot recall it very well--only that it happened.  My impression was that they looked tired and stressed out, which is understandable.  For what it's worth, I have never doubted that they actually went to the moon, or that many of the astronauts have seen UFOs out there over the years.  A number of them have admitted it and discussed it openly, so it's no big secret.

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 11:37 PM

View Postmrbusdriver, on 07 December 2010 - 12:20 PM, said:

Just my thoughts...

These guys had been working/training/flying/debriefing/decontaminating together for about a year or so. They had just finished the most demanding ands stressful mission ever flown. Now they have to face the public with all the pomp and ceremony which none of them cared for. They weren't close friends, and there was significant animosity in some areas.

So the idea that they were about to undertake this enmormous "chore" was also weighing on them...answering stupid questions, all the parades and bands...not their cup of tea. Not surprisingly, this was reflected in their demeanor during the press conference.

Just my impressions.


I think your impressions carry some validity, Mr. B.

The next day they would tour the entire United States...in a single day. They'd subsequently be doing television tapings, interviews.
They would have home town parades and more speeches, then, they would address a joint session of Congress in Washington, DC, and on 29 September, they'd embark on a 23 country, 27 city goodwill world tour which would last until just prior to the Apollo 12 launch in November.

For Neil, he'd be heading to Viet Nam in December for a tour with Bob Hope, and in 1970, he'd be the second U.S. Astronaut to make an official visit to the Soviet Union.


I think he made it pretty clear in that very news conference when he was asked what he thought about the imminent three city tour of the United States that he and his crew were about to undertake...

He said that it was...
"...certainly the last thing we're prepared for."


All-in-all, Mr. Armstrong did very well with things he was not all-too-fond of, and he did so with dignity, and grace, as he has ever since.


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Posted 07 December 2010 - 11:49 PM

View PostTheMcGuffin, on 07 December 2010 - 03:06 PM, said:

I probably saw this press conference at the time, although I cannot recall it very well--only that it happened.  My impression was that they looked tired and stressed out, which is understandable.

I think those are valid impressions.


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For what it's worth, I have never doubted that they actually went to the moon, or that many of the astronauts have seen UFOs out there over the years.  A number of them have admitted it and discussed it openly, so it's no big secret.


No.

Many a pilot has seen a UFO.  The acronym is a literal description of something which is somewhat common, in the air, or in space.


No reason to doubt it.  It happens frequently.





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