A good friend found a complete.. fossilized peyote button, in a sandy outcropping in Michigan! He would like to know if it might be valuable... monetarily. Could anyone tell us please what it might be worth ?
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Fossilized Peyote Button
Valuable ?$?
Started by lightly , Feb 13 2011 03:07 PM
Started by lightly , Feb 13 2011 03:07 PM
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Posted 13 February 2011 - 03:07 PM
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Posted 13 February 2011 - 04:10 PM
How is this friend or you so sure it was a peyote button?
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Posted 13 February 2011 - 08:42 PM
Mentalcase, on 13 February 2011 - 04:10 PM, said:
How is this friend or you so sure it was a peyote button?
well, because , he says , it looks exactly like a peyote button.. Only it's fossilized. Apparently he knows what a peyote button looks like.
I'd really like to find out, for his sake, if it is valuable, monetarily, to a Museum of Natural History or a collector or something.
* Hmmm but ya, i guess your right.. it COULD be something else... that looks identical... who knows!? maybe he should get it looked at by a botanist or someone who might be able to verify what it was.
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Posted 13 February 2011 - 09:20 PM
I have to say... it probably isn't hugely valuable.
A fossil of a fairly common plant doesn't run much, I'd expect.
I don't know for sure, though.
I'd recommend this forum here:
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It's a forum for fossil hunters and they'd give you a better idea.
A fossil of a fairly common plant doesn't run much, I'd expect.
I don't know for sure, though.
I'd recommend this forum here:
Linkage
It's a forum for fossil hunters and they'd give you a better idea.
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Posted 13 February 2011 - 11:44 PM
ShadowSot, on 13 February 2011 - 09:20 PM, said:
I have to say... it probably isn't hugely valuable.
A fossil of a fairly common plant doesn't run much, I'd expect.
I don't know for sure, though.
I'd recommend this forum here:
Linkage
It's a forum for fossil hunters and they'd give you a better idea.
A fossil of a fairly common plant doesn't run much, I'd expect.
I don't know for sure, though.
I'd recommend this forum here:
Linkage
It's a forum for fossil hunters and they'd give you a better idea.
hey thanks a lot ShadowSot, ... i see i'll have to join before i can post or make a topic.. but, i'll probably do it.
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 10:10 PM
lightly, on 13 February 2011 - 03:07 PM, said:
A good friend found a complete.. fossilized peyote button, in a sandy outcropping in Michigan! He would like to know if it might be valuable... monetarily. Could anyone tell us please what it might be worth ?
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Posted 17 April 2012 - 12:40 AM
Sarrie02, on 16 April 2012 - 10:10 PM, said:
Hello. I am Native American and my tribe would be very interested in getting a hold of that button if it is still available. Even to hold it would be a blessing for us. Please contact me if you can.
Hi, Ok, Thanks. I will contact my friend ( it might take awhile ) .. and then i'll contact you to hook you guys up.
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Posted 17 April 2012 - 07:35 AM
lightly, on 17 April 2012 - 12:40 AM, said:
Hi, Ok, Thanks. I will contact my friend ( it might take awhile ) .. and then i'll contact you to hook you guys up.
But you will have to check first if it is a true peyote; there are also socalled 'false peyotes':
Peyote is the common name for a species of cactus called Lophophora Williamsii, which has several variants. There are also a few nearly identical variants of a different species known as 'False Peyote', containing little-to-no mescaline. However, False Peyote does contain other psychoactive alkaloids, reported to have delerient effects.
Variants of False Peyote include:
* Lophophora Diffusa
* Lophophora Diffusa Fricii variant
* Lophophora Diffusa Kubesae variant
* Lophophora Diffusa Koeheresii variant
http://www.drugs-for...hp?title=Peyote
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Posted 17 April 2012 - 04:58 PM
Sarrie02, on 16 April 2012 - 10:10 PM, said:
Hello. I am Native American and my tribe would be very interested in getting a hold of that button if it is still available. Even to hold it would be a blessing for us. Please contact me if you can. Sarrie02@hotmail.com
Hi.
Just out of interest, why?
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:42 PM
Abramelin, on 17 April 2012 - 07:35 AM, said:
But you will have to check first if it is a true peyote; there are also socalled 'false peyotes':
Peyote is the common name for a species of cactus called Lophophora Williamsii, which has several variants. There are also a few nearly identical variants of a different species known as 'False Peyote', containing little-to-no mescaline. However, False Peyote does contain other psychoactive alkaloids, reported to have delerient effects.
Variants of False Peyote include:
* Lophophora Diffusa
* Lophophora Diffusa Fricii variant
* Lophophora Diffusa Kubesae variant
* Lophophora Diffusa Koeheresii variant
http://www.drugs-for...hp?title=Peyote
Peyote is the common name for a species of cactus called Lophophora Williamsii, which has several variants. There are also a few nearly identical variants of a different species known as 'False Peyote', containing little-to-no mescaline. However, False Peyote does contain other psychoactive alkaloids, reported to have delerient effects.
Variants of False Peyote include:
* Lophophora Diffusa
* Lophophora Diffusa Fricii variant
* Lophophora Diffusa Kubesae variant
* Lophophora Diffusa Koeheresii variant
http://www.drugs-for...hp?title=Peyote
Thanks Abramelin, i didn't know about the "false" ones . (interesting link too) ... i'm just trying to help my friend. Lophophora Williamsii aren't native to michigan, i don't think, but they may have been Longggggg ago? .. But the use of peyote , as a sacrament, did spread to this area (great lakes) and Canada. I'm not sure how or when one managed to get petrified here.
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Posted 21 April 2012 - 05:22 AM
Yeah...pretty sure he's found some kind of echinoderm, like this:
http://www.google.co...9jzS0&q=Cidaris
http://www.google.co...5.0.SLkJRgC1y9M
Seems he's not the first one to make that association either:
http://www.flickr.co...N02/6233734185/
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http://www.google.co...9jzS0&q=Cidaris
http://www.google.co...5.0.SLkJRgC1y9M
Seems he's not the first one to make that association either:
http://www.flickr.co...N02/6233734185/
Fifth comment down.
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Posted 21 April 2012 - 07:15 PM
Oniomancer, on 21 April 2012 - 05:22 AM, said:
Yeah...pretty sure he's found some kind of echinoderm, like this:
http://www.google.co...9jzS0&q=Cidaris
http://www.google.co...5.0.SLkJRgC1y9M
Seems he's not the first one to make that association either:
http://www.flickr.co...N02/6233734185/
Fifth comment down.
http://www.google.co...9jzS0&q=Cidaris
http://www.google.co...5.0.SLkJRgC1y9M
Seems he's not the first one to make that association either:
http://www.flickr.co...N02/6233734185/
Fifth comment down.
Thanks Oniomancer, that's interesting. There is a striking simlarity .
It would be funny if my friend has found an actual fossilized Lophophora Williamsii which was traded all the way up here to michigan ... and then lost.. and then found !
fossilized echinoderm huh? ... yup, maybe so.
Lol.. you Know things are slow in here when people start searching info on topics THIS boring.
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