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#331    cormac mac airt

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:59 PM

View Postnopeda, on 21 January 2013 - 08:41 PM, said:

They're below average regarding the possibility that xts HAVE been here, that's for sure. Maybe they have been. Maybe they have not. The closed minded can only consider one of countless possibilities. How could they get any less capable, or any lower than they are?


AFAIK for every real possible xt involvement there's no verifiable physical evidence for, there's also none that explains how else the things that make it seem possible could have taken place. Instead there are just a bunch of "maybe's", "might have been's", "what if's"....

A possibility of something being true doesn't make it a fact.

Which leaves it as an "unknown" and NOT evidence for extraterrestrials.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 09:04 PM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 18 January 2013 - 03:24 PM, said:

If there were more posters like you on here, there would be more decent conversations.  There are generally few conversations at all on here, just people trying to post evidence and others jumping on them every time and saying it's all false.  
I'm still curious what sort of personal experience you've had.


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Posted 21 January 2013 - 09:07 PM

View PostNuke_em, on 17 January 2013 - 02:03 PM, said:

There is plenty of evidence which might SUGGEST ET activity you are just simply ignoring it... i don't believe it either but it does SUGGEST that something is happening... From radar images to NOT blury pictures and video which clearly show something strange. You deny everything on this topic while others take it in consideration.
People will deny evidence exists even though evidence is what's discussed most here afaik.


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Posted 21 January 2013 - 09:10 PM

View Postcormac mac airt, on 21 January 2013 - 03:26 PM, said:

we have to assume your hypothetical is correct in order for your fact to be true. An assumption of which is of little use in the real world.
If his fact is true it's true REGARDLESS of what you assume about it. If xts have been here they have been also regardless of what you or anyone else assumes about it. Were you somehow unaware of all that? Also, ALL we have is our assumptions or interpretations of things. Even the things you believe to know as fact it is only your own personal interpretation that they are.


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Posted 21 January 2013 - 09:17 PM

View Postnopeda, on 21 January 2013 - 09:10 PM, said:

If his fact is true it's true REGARDLESS of what you assume about it. If xts have been here they have been also regardless of what you or anyone else assumes about it. Were you somehow unaware of all that? Also, ALL we have is our assumptions or interpretations of things. Even the things you believe to know as fact it is only your own personal interpretation that they are.

The key word there is "IF". Using that argument "IF horses flew I'd have one". :tu:

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 09:25 PM

View Postcormac mac airt, on 21 January 2013 - 08:59 PM, said:

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nopeda, on 21 January 2013 - 03:41 PM, said:
They're below average regarding the possibility that xts HAVE been here, that's for sure. Maybe they have been. Maybe they have not. The closed minded can only consider one of countless possibilities. How could they get any less capable, or any lower than they are?
AFAIK for every real possible xt involvement there's no verifiable physical evidence for, there's also none that explains how else the things that make it seem possible could have taken place. Instead there are just a bunch of "maybe's", "might have been's", "what if's"....
A possibility of something being true doesn't make it a fact.
Which leaves it as an "unknown" and NOT evidence for extraterrestrials.
There's plenty of evidence for things that are unknown, including xts. Were you somehow unaware of that?


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Posted 21 January 2013 - 09:31 PM

View Postcormac mac airt, on 21 January 2013 - 09:17 PM, said:

nopeda, on 21 January 2013 - 04:10 PM, said:

If his fact is true it's true REGARDLESS of what you assume about it. If xts have been here they have been also regardless of what you or anyone else assumes about it. Were you somehow unaware of all that? Also, ALL we have is our assumptions or interpretations of things. Even the things you believe to know as fact it is only your own personal interpretation that they are.

The key word there is "IF". Using that argument "IF
Tell us how humans moved hundred ton rocks without the use of wheels or pulleys. Don't tell us how they might have which is "if", but tell us how they actually DID cut them from the Earth, and move them, and stack them.


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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:45 PM

View Postnopeda, on 21 January 2013 - 09:31 PM, said:

Tell us how humans moved hundred ton rocks without the use of wheels or pulleys. Don't tell us how they might have which is "if", but tell us how they actually DID cut them from the Earth, and move them, and stack them.

Only if you tell us how aliens 'actually DID cut them from the Earth, and move them, and stack them'. Remember, per your guidelines...no if's.

I'm guessing you don't see the silliness of your request given your own lack of data?

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:56 PM

oops replied to wrong post

Edited by seeder, 21 January 2013 - 10:58 PM.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:58 PM

View Postnopeda, on 21 January 2013 - 09:31 PM, said:

Tell us how humans moved hundred ton rocks without the use of wheels or pulleys. Don't tell us how they might have which is "if", but tell us how they actually DID cut them from the Earth, and move them, and stack them.

I know what you're hinting at, so I suggest you look at the timeline for what man actually achieved from just 1 to 500 ad

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The England team visited an orphanage in Brazil today. “It’s heartbreaking to see their sad little faces with no hope” .....said Jose, age 6.
It's not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me... It's all the rabbit poop you stumble over on your way down...
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 11:00 PM

View Postnopeda, on 21 January 2013 - 09:07 PM, said:

People will deny evidence exists even though evidence is what's discussed most here afaik.

evidence indeed, If there were evidence of xts we wouldn't be discussing it..  show me one scrap of evidence?

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 11:02 PM

View Postnopeda, on 21 January 2013 - 09:31 PM, said:

Tell us how humans moved hundred ton rocks without the use of wheels or pulleys.

OK I will






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Edited by seeder, 21 January 2013 - 11:07 PM.

The England team visited an orphanage in Brazil today. “It’s heartbreaking to see their sad little faces with no hope” .....said Jose, age 6.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 07:52 AM

View PostSlave2Fate, on 21 January 2013 - 10:45 PM, said:

Only if you tell us how aliens 'actually DID cut them from the Earth, and move them, and stack them'. Remember, per your guidelines...no if's.

And please tell us why.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:43 PM

View PostSlave2Fate, on 21 January 2013 - 10:45 PM, said:

Only if you tell us how aliens 'actually DID cut them from the Earth, and move them, and stack them'. Remember, per your guidelines...no if's.
I'm guessing you don't see the silliness of your request given your own lack of data?
In contrast, it was to show the silliness of his "complaint" since all ANY OF US have are "ifs", including you and he.


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Posted 22 January 2013 - 10:06 PM

View Postseeder, on 21 January 2013 - 10:58 PM, said:

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nopeda, on 21 January 2013 - 04:31 PM, said:
Tell us how humans moved hundred ton rocks without the use of wheels or pulleys. Don't tell us how they might have which is "if", but tell us how they actually DID cut them from the Earth, and move them, and stack them.
I know what you're hinting at, so I suggest you look at the timeline for what man actually achieved from just 1 to 500 ad
knowledge is power
I want to know how people did what I asked, or if it was beyond their ability if it was. So far from my pov it sure seems that it was, because no one else can figure out how they could have done some of the things either. So far none of us can know, so the possibility that they had help must be taken into consideration from my pov and they couldn't have gotten help like that from any other creatures on this planet.





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