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[Abramelin]

Otharus, on 01 April 2012 - 04:56 PM, said:

ANGEL.INA JOL

Yule, Juul, Yol



Her grandmother's 'oma', 'Antje van Koedyk' was born in 1872 in Sint Maarten (North-Holland), between Enkhuizen and Den Helder.

Jolie... Jol.

Now I know how you came up with her, lol.

"Koedyk"... Kadik.... another.. uhm.. connection.

[Abramelin]

I'm sure I've posted this before, but it won't hurt to repost it:

[xxxiii] For Adam of Bremen in modern translation please see Francis J. Tschan, (trans. & ed.), History of the archbishops of Hamburg-Bremen, (New York: Columbia University Press, 2002). Adam of Bremen calls these Netherlanders “Frisians” since at that time Robert of Frisia was Count of Flanders (1071-1093). For the only detailed discussion of Netherlanders sailing for America I am aware of in a modern tongue please see Charles Van den Bergh, “Nederlands Aanspraak op de Ontdekking van Amerika voor Columbus” (The Dutch claim to the discovery of America before Columbus), in Bijdragen voor Vaderlandsche Geschiedenis en Oudheidkunde Verzameld en Uitgegeven door Is. An. Nijhoff, VII (1850), pp.23-33.

[xxxiv] See Martinus Hamconius, writing before 1620, who claims that Netherlanders reached the mines of Mexico and settled Chile in Charles Van den Bergh, “Nederlands Aanspraak", op.cit., pp.30-33.

http://flemishameric...a-part-one.html

[Otharus]

Leeuwarder Courant : "Frisians speak ugliest Dutch."

[Abramelin]

Otharus, I just now had this crazy idea (and that was after my ex came around, and told me a story you would like - she is a native American woman from the Dutch Antiles, an Arawak - about Frisian ancestors. It gets weirder all the time, I tell you).

You want to make a series of YouTube videos about the whole OLB narrative, like you told us.

But why don't you try to contact Paul Verhoeven, and ask him if he is interested in making a movie about the OLB. Then you tell him about the OLB, give him a link to Sandbach's or Ottema's translation and of course a link to this huge thread. The guy is meticulous, and I will bet he will read this whole thread, even if it takes him a week to complete reading it.

You could ask of course, "Why don't you do it yourself, Rob?", but I have no experience in making videos. YOU have.

And hoax/falsification or not, I think it could turn out into a great movie.

They made movies about the Odyssey, the Ilias, Vikings, "The 13th Warrior", and so on. The text of the OLB could be just as great a script for a movie as any ancient Greek manuscript had to offer.

http://en.wikipedia..../Paul_Verhoeven

What I think I know about Verhoeven is that he loves to make movies about controversial books and ideas.

Try it. Your command of English is better than mine.


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Edited by Abramelin, 01 April 2012 - 06:08 PM.

[Otharus]

Abramelin, on 01 April 2012 - 05:52 PM, said:

Otharus, I just now had this crazy idea (and that was after my ex came around, and told me a story you would like - she is a native American woman from the Dutch Antiles, an Arawak - about Frisian ancestors. It gets weirder all the time, I tell you).

You want to make a series of YouTube videos about the whole OLB narrative, like you told us.

But why don't you try to contact Paul Verhoeven, and ask him if he is interested in making a movie about the OLB. Then you tell him about the OLB, give him a link to Sandbach's or Ottema's translation and of course a link to this huge thread. The guy is meticulous, and I will bet he will read this whole thread, even if it takes him a week to complete reading it.

You could ask of course, "Why don't you do it yourself, Rob?", but I have no experience in making videos. YOU have.

And hoax/falsification or not, I think it could turn out into a great movie.

They made movies about the Odyssey, the Ilias, Vikings, "The 13th Warrior", and so on. The text of the OLB could be just as great a script for a movie as any ancient Greek manuscript had to offer.

http://en.wikipedia..../Paul_Verhoeven

What I think I know about Verhoeven is that he loves to make movies about controversial books and ideas.

Try it. Your command of English is better than mine.

I agree to all.

And he has a thing with heroines...

https://vimeo.com/2791818

[Abramelin]

Otharus, on 01 April 2012 - 05:23 PM, said:

Leeuwarder Courant : "Frisians speak ugliest Dutch."

I think the worst Dutch dialect is spoken in the province of Drenthe.

They have that 'nasal' kind of accent I do not like that much, to be honest.

But who am I to complain: I once talked with a Canadian woman from my own site. She said I had a "Swedish" accent. Damn, that accent is even worse. Another woman from my site said I sounded like Leo Beenhakker, the guy who was once the football trainer of the Trinidad-Tubago soccer team.



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[Otharus]

Otharus, on 01 April 2012 - 06:10 PM, said:

I agree to all.

And he has a thing with heroines...

https://vimeo.com/2791818

That was a first tribute to my hero.

Here's a second.

He most definately has a thing with alternative (Bible and Jesus) history.

Member of the Jesus Seminar.

Edited by Otharus, 01 April 2012 - 06:20 PM.

[Abramelin]

Otharus, on 01 April 2012 - 06:10 PM, said:

I agree to all.

And he has a thing with heroines...

https://vimeo.com/2791818

I watched that video...

He loves assertive, aggresive, and maybe even 'dominating' women.

He would love the OLB, lol.

[Otharus]

Abramelin, on 01 April 2012 - 06:22 PM, said:

I watched that video...

He loves assertive, aggresive, and maybe even 'dominating' women.

He would love the OLB, lol.

Yes he does.

As will the international audience.

Edited by Otharus, 01 April 2012 - 06:32 PM.

[Otharus]

The last for tonight:

"Restricted - best & greatest Dutch film" TURKS FRUIT, by Paul Verhoeven.

https://vimeo.com/2779199

With a pic of me at the and.

That's only fair, since I already posted photo's of my respected fellow researchers, Jensma and Knul (who follows?).

Edited by Otharus, 01 April 2012 - 06:39 PM.

[Knul]

Otharus, on 30 March 2012 - 12:34 PM, said:

To my own surprise, I am the first (as far as I know) who interprets Thjanja as Diana.

Checked: Ottema (1876), Sandbach (1876), Wirth (1933), Jensma (2006), de Heer (2008), Raubenheimer (2011), Knul (2012)
(can't find the link to Overwijn's version)

Overwijn does not mention Diana either.s. http://rodinbook.nl/overwijn.html

Edited by Knul, 02 April 2012 - 09:35 PM.

[Knul]

Otharus, on 23 March 2012 - 10:06 AM, said:

1. Richthofen: "flet" = huis; 'flet' in German dialect ('Platduits') is the place where the beds are.

2. The manuscript has "LOGHA", not "LONGHA". Logha = flame ('tongue' of fire)

Logha is Oldfrisian loga = flame s. Koebler.

[Abramelin]

Knul, on 02 April 2012 - 09:14 PM, said:

Overwijn does not mention Diana either.s. http://rodinbook.nl/overwijn.html

The link is dead, but here's a scan of the page of Overwijn's book:

 THJANJA.jpg   99.83K   6 downloads

According to Overwijn, the name Thjanja comes from "Tanna" or "Tanneke" (from a Dutch kid's rhyme about a witch) and means 'to flare up', and has no connection with 'to serve'.

He also says that the last -n- in Tanna is a nasal -ñ- in Old Frisian, so Tanna would become Tanja (or Tania in English).

But it must be noted that Overwijn used a lot of Celtic to explain words in the OLB (this is what he also said: Celtic: tana = flame /  tanañ = to light a fire, to set alight )

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EDIT:

Also see my posts 10893 & 10894 here:

http://www.unexplain...184645&st=10890

EDIT:

Menno, this is the corrcet link to your page with Overwijn's text:

http://rodinbook.nl/...stoverwijn.html





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Edited by Abramelin, 03 April 2012 - 11:58 AM.

[Knul]

Abramelin, on 03 April 2012 - 11:34 AM, said:

The link is dead, but here's a scan of the page of Overwijn's book:

THJANJA.jpg

According to Overwijn, the name Thjanja comes from "Tanna" or "Tanneke" (from a Dutch kid's rhyme about a witch) and means 'to flare up', and has no connection with 'to serve'.

He also says that the last -n- in Tanna is a nasal -ń- in Old Frisian, so Tanna would become Tanja (or Tania in English).

But it must be noted that Overwijn used a lot of Celtic to explain words in the OLB (this is what he also said: Celtic: tana = flame /  tanań = to light a fire, to set alight )

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EDIT:

Also see my posts 10893 & 10894 here:

http://www.unexplain...184645&st=10890

EDIT:

Menno, this is the corrcet link to your page with Overwijn's text:

http://rodinbook.nl/...stoverwijn.html





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Yes, I changed it a bit.

[Abramelin]

Menno, on your page about Overwijn's book, http://rodinbook.nl/...stoverwijn.html , I see this line:

Noordwest-Europa voor de Kimbrische Vloed in ca. 6250 v.Chr.
(North West Europe before the Cimbrian Flood of around 6250 BC)

Maybe you'd like to add the picture that comes with that line:



As you will remember I have posted a couple of scans from Overwijn's book, like that one of the citadel on Texland and a couple of pages on the Menapian language.

I am not sure if you own the book yourself, but in case you don't I can post other scans of images from his book you might want to use.

Edited by Abramelin, 03 April 2012 - 02:50 PM.