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Do these videos contain images of UFO's?

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#1396    TheMacGuffin

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 03:43 AM

View Postpsyche101, on 21 November 2012 - 03:38 AM, said:

Hrrmmz, that link shows James actively working on the Shuttle program, and goes on to confirm what he has said about Story Musgrave, and herald Jims accomplishments.

I am not sure it has the effect you might have hoped for? It paints Jim in very good light indeed.


Yes, a very good light indeed.  Just when did our good friend "Jim" become a "NASA Rocket Scientist"?  Does he have a degree in rocket science?  LOL

Edited by TheMacGuffin, 21 November 2012 - 04:34 AM.


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Posted 21 November 2012 - 03:46 AM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 21 November 2012 - 03:28 AM, said:

One thing Ken Johnston did say in the C2C interview was that he was friends with James Oberg at NASA at discussed many of these things with him at the time, but when he went public Oberg turned on him, and even warned that his life might be in danger.


Ohh for Pete's sakes. That really is going too far. Who in their right mind would believe that?

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 03:52 AM

View Postpsyche101, on 21 November 2012 - 03:46 AM, said:

Ohh for Pete's sakes. That really is going too far. Who in their right mind would believe that?

In the interview, who also said there was a team at NASA "doctoring" all the photographs of UFOs and whatnot.  He mentioned Dr. Thornton Page quite a bit, who I recall was on the Robertson Committee back in 1953.


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Posted 21 November 2012 - 03:52 AM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 21 November 2012 - 03:43 AM, said:




Yes, a very good light indeed.  Just when did our good friend "Jim" become a "NASA Rocket Scientist"?  Does he have a degree in rocket science?  LOL

Since the term "rocket scientist" is synonymous with aerospace engineer, Oberg does indeed have that degree.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 03:58 AM

View Postpsyche101, on 21 November 2012 - 03:41 AM, said:

They are claimed to be big enough to spot with a telescope.


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Dead set, that is mystery solved. No such thing is on the moon, and anyone can look for themselves.


Much paredolia about some god awful messed up photos. Surely people are not taking this seriously??
Airbrushed pictures?

This looks like it's been sandblasted!

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:00 AM

This is where he mentions the blue lights in the Apollo 14 pictures, right at the beginning of this interview.  He thought one of them was not a UFO but a structure of some kind, made of silicon or glass.



Edited by TheMacGuffin, 21 November 2012 - 04:20 AM.


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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:00 AM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 21 November 2012 - 03:43 AM, said:

Yes, a very good light indeed.  Just when did our good friend "Jim" become a "NASA Rocket Scientist"?  Does he have a degree in rocket science?  LOL

Actually, there are dozens of aspects of Aerospace Engineering, and Jame's qualifications do seem to come under some of those banners. IMDB also says:


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Had a twenty-two year career as a space engineer for NASA and is a prolific writer on science subjects.



You know, Jim's support of Robert Henry Lawrence Jr. is something I would consider a very honorable act.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:16 AM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 21 November 2012 - 03:52 AM, said:

In the interview, who also said there was a team at NASA "doctoring" all the photographs of UFOs and whatnot.  He mentioned Dr. Thornton Page quite a bit, who I recall was on the Robertson Committee back in 1953.

There have been a few claims of doctoring, but in this case, that clearly is not the case. Ken is too ambitious with his buildings and colour claims. Anyone could take a full colour photo like that with an ordinary camera that has shutter control. And the buildings are outrageously large. That too could be verified by just about anyone. But death threats? That's a bit too far I think.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:18 AM

View PostJimOberg, on 21 November 2012 - 02:30 AM, said:

You can FOIA his military records, if you dare.

Johnston was in the Marines, just as he said.

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In addition, "Oberg continues to argue that Ken was not “in charge” of the photographic datasets in his possession at the Lunar Receiving Laboratory, despite the memo from NASA’s Dr. Jeffery L. Warner, which states that “the data and photo facilities in Room 105 that is run by Ken Johnston… is an order of magnitude better than when I left it.” It’s hard to understand how someone who “runs” a data and photo facility is somehow not “in charge” of the data and photos that he is given oversight of. Only a twisted agenda like Oberg’s can manage to turn this into some sort of “discrepancy.”


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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:23 AM

This was the "blue blob" picture that Johnston said was altered by NASA.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:27 AM

Johnston also said that one of the "blue flare" images was reflected in the face shields of the astronauts.

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http://www.google.co...ej3ZsRrxc_rO5kQ

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:37 AM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 21 November 2012 - 04:27 AM, said:

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is that the silicone skyscraper or the plasma plume from an invisible et craft?

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:37 AM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 21 November 2012 - 04:00 AM, said:

This is where he mentions the blue lights in the Apollo 14 pictures, right at the beginning of this interview.  He thought one of them was not a UFO but a structure of some kind, made of silicon or glass.

Ok, I listened to that interview.  He's talking about this image:

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If this blue light is a reflection off of a massive crystal structure, why isn't it there a few seconds later in frame 9302?

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And what about these images that we've already discussed where the blue flares show up on top of foreground objects?

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or above the lunar module:

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or in lunar orbit:

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All of these blue flares look similar to each other.  Do you really honestly believe that they're reflections off of some nearly-invisible massive crystal structure?  Or are they just simple photo defects?


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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:37 AM

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I need to remind Mr. Bara that on his own blog, Mr. Johnston had stated, "I hold .. two advanced degrees from the Reformed Baptist Seminary, one in Theology and the other PhD in Metaphysics...".


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Qualifications aside, has the Reformed Baptist Seminary been found as yet?

Edited by psyche101, 21 November 2012 - 04:39 AM.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:41 AM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 21 November 2012 - 04:27 AM, said:

Johnston also said that one of the "blue flare" images was reflected in the face shields of the astronauts.

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http://www.google.co...ej3ZsRrxc_rO5kQ




Just a question, why would the astronaut be clear in the second photo as opposed to the first, but the artifact not?

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