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#1    Mnemonix

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 06:57 AM

If God loves me so much, why doesn't he help me, instead of just threatening to burn me in Hell? God has the power to do anything, so why not?

Doesn't seem like a good god, no matter how you put it.

Starting to doubt god, because he has never helped me in my life and I have never felt anything in prayer, not a single trace of god.

If god is good, why send people to hell? Can't he just change that with his infinite power? Surely it should be extremely effortless for him, and it would sound like the "good" option.

I've been wanting to post something like this, but have been very reluctant, and couldn't find the words.

Probably going to regret this.

I think that god, doesn't love me, doesn't exist, or exists but is not the god of the religions of this world.

Edited by Mnemonix, 19 May 2013 - 06:59 AM.


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Posted 19 May 2013 - 07:09 AM

Did God ever threaten to send people to hell? Or did people, seeing an opportunity to get power and control over others, devise the idea of "eternal punishment" (as distinct from more subtle interpretations of 'Hell' as meaning the deliberate turning away from God) as a means of making sure that everybody remained obedient.

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I think that god, doesn't love me, doesn't exist, or exists but is not the god of the religions of this world.
I too have come to think that the latter may well be the case, that he has been seriosuly mispresented by those who insisted that vast books should be written full of rules & regulations and Thou Shalt Nots.

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 07:14 AM

View PostColonel Rhuairidh, on 19 May 2013 - 07:09 AM, said:

Did God ever threaten to send people to hell? Or did people, seeing an opportunity to get power and control over others, devise the idea of "eternal punishment" (as distinct from more subtle interpretations of 'Hell' as meaning the deliberate turning away from God) as a means of making sure that everybody remained obedient.

Don't know, I think the latter might be the case.


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Posted 19 May 2013 - 07:20 AM

I want to write a lot of things, but it seems like every time I want to, I get a big headache and just decide not to.


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Posted 19 May 2013 - 08:16 AM

And why doesn't he return my phone calls?


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Posted 19 May 2013 - 08:27 AM

View PostRlyeh, on 19 May 2013 - 08:16 AM, said:

And why doesn't he return my phone calls?
you might have lucked out on that one muchacho :)

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 08:42 AM

View PostRlyeh, on 19 May 2013 - 08:16 AM, said:

And why doesn't he return my phone calls?

No, I never phoned him.


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Posted 19 May 2013 - 08:43 AM

Thou shalt not put Our Lord God to the test. Pray and you shall receive.
Never pray for money.
Always give thanks.
Always acknowledge the beautiful world you are privileged to live in.
And remember this is not a puppet show..... free will has been given to mankind.
Also remember, we don't know the whole story, so be humble and praise the Lord.


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Posted 19 May 2013 - 08:48 AM

View PostZeta Reticulum, on 19 May 2013 - 08:43 AM, said:

Thou shalt not put Our Lord God to the test. Pray and you shall receive.
Never pray for money.
Always give thanks.
Always acknowledge the beautiful world you are privileged to live in.
And remember this is not a puppet show..... free will has been given to mankind.
Also remember, we don't know the whole story, so be humble and praise the Lord.

Thank you for your input, I appreciate it, but it doesn't really answer my question.


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Posted 19 May 2013 - 09:08 AM

Sometimes just meditating can help to sort out all these kinds of thoughts.

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 09:14 AM

View PostMistydawn, on 19 May 2013 - 09:08 AM, said:

Sometimes just meditating can help to sort out all these kinds of thoughts.

Don't know about that, I have things to do. But I'll consider your advice.


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Posted 19 May 2013 - 10:13 AM

Q) If God loves me why doesn't he help me?

A) Because it just doesn't work like that.

The reality is far more like something my Grandmother used to say, "God helps those who help themselves". I could also add to this that help comes far more frequently to those who help and care about others.

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 10:40 AM

View PostLilly, on 19 May 2013 - 10:13 AM, said:

The reality is far more like something my Grandmother used to say, "God helps those who help themselves".

Mine too. (To which Grandfather would mutter, "But God help anyone found helping himself on my farm!"

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 10:50 AM

Watched a docu about the Tsunami and some people were saying it was gods will because they must had upset him. Sorry, but the quicker people start believing in themselves and recognize that you are the only person who can own the power within yourself, then the better.
There are many bad people who help themselves, to other peoples things, and some of the god believing people rely on their god to take care of these people.
Life does not work that way, you have to take control of your own life and the more you rely on god, the more you lose control.
If people want to believe in a god, then thats fine, but to rely on him? you are no longer a person who has control of his own life. I will even go as far to say it is a sign of extreme insecurity and in some cases turns a man into a coward, where they would not have otherwise been if they had more faith in themselves and their own abilities.

In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 11:02 AM

Not really relying on god, don't even know if one exists anymore. I just allow myself to believe there is some kind of god out there, if not then it doesn't matter.

I'm talking about the god people say exists.





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