Jump to content




Welcome to Unexplained Mysteries! Please sign in or create an account to start posting and to access a host of extra features.


* * * * * 1 votes

The Joy of Bigfoot


  • Please log in to reply
52 replies to this topic

#31    DieChecker

DieChecker

    I'm a Rogue Scholar

  • Member
  • 17,246 posts
  • Joined:21 Nov 2005
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Portland, Oregon, USA

  • Hey, I'm not wrong. I'm just not completely right.

Posted 13 March 2013 - 11:15 PM

Posted Image

Here at Intel we make processors on 12 inch wafers. And, the individual processors on the wafers are called die. And, I am employed to check these die. That is why I am the DieChecker.

At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do not cease to be insipid. - Friedrich Nietzsche

Qualifications? This is cryptozoology, dammit! All that is required is the spirit of adventure. - Night Walker

#32    QuiteContrary

QuiteContrary

    BugWhisperer

  • Member
  • 4,660 posts
  • Joined:06 Mar 2012
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Tejas

  • "I'm an optimistic, don't know." Onslow

Posted 13 March 2013 - 11:18 PM

View PostNight Walker, on 13 March 2013 - 09:27 PM, said:

At worst it is dishonest. At best it is Legend-Tripping! Just like calling on Bloody Mary or visiting the local haunted house. The thrill of danger is REAL - people have actually died whilst legend-tripping, you know (but not from Bigfoot or Bloody Mary or ghosts or...)

I first though about comparing it to ghost walks/tours, etc. But for me, it is just not the same.

Bigfoot is some real, natural, physical animal.

It is born, eats, breeds, and dies,  like any other scientifically verified animal.

Expeditions, etc are  like going bird-watching not going on a ghost tour. There is a totally different mindset expected of the participants created by hype mixed with quite a bit of "science" and "facts" and "experiences" etc. And a few scientist supporters as well.

(I'm not sure if I've explained it well)

So, for me the paranormal and bigfoot can be two complelely different things. And therefore, so too can the dishonesty/deceit/fraud factor.

Edited by QuiteContrary, 13 March 2013 - 11:31 PM.

Keep your eyes wide open and don't run!

P.S. Just to be clear, because sometimes I am not. I do not believe...
in the existence of a large previously unknown undiscovered hairy biped roaming North America.
But I like to hear the accounts, read the books, watch the shows, discuss and argue about the phenomenon.

#33    QuiteContrary

QuiteContrary

    BugWhisperer

  • Member
  • 4,660 posts
  • Joined:06 Mar 2012
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Tejas

  • "I'm an optimistic, don't know." Onslow

Posted 13 March 2013 - 11:37 PM

View PostDieChecker, on 13 March 2013 - 11:15 PM, said:

Posted Image

It was my sister!
It's so blurry how can I tell?!
Trust me, Honey Squatchkin. It was my sister...honest.

Keep your eyes wide open and don't run!

P.S. Just to be clear, because sometimes I am not. I do not believe...
in the existence of a large previously unknown undiscovered hairy biped roaming North America.
But I like to hear the accounts, read the books, watch the shows, discuss and argue about the phenomenon.

#34    keninsc

keninsc

    Poltergeist

  • Validating
  • 3,234 posts
  • Joined:08 Mar 2012
  • Gender:Not Selected

  • The problem with people who have no vices is that generally you can be pretty sure they're going to have some pretty annoying virtues. Liz Taylor

Posted 14 March 2013 - 01:21 AM

Ok, humor will get you everywhere with me.

:w00t:


#35    Sakari

Sakari

    tohi

  • Member
  • 12,025 posts
  • Joined:16 Aug 2009
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Safford, Arizona

  • Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

Posted 14 March 2013 - 01:38 AM

One has to wonder how many years of nothing will it take of zero evidence that a large bipedal, breeding population of primates live throughout the world.

1951 a " Yeti " footprint was photographed. This ( arguably ) is a good starting date. ( no, Indians did not talk about Bigfoot, there stories are about supernatural things, different in different regions )......Anyway....

We have 62 years of claims, and not one solid piece of evidence......

Ugh, here I go again, same thing, different year......

Anyway, folklore will be around as long as we are. The Bigfoot thing, especially in this day and age is just insane. I have trouble thinking anyone that actually researchs things would even have any " belief " in it.

Our Wolf's Memorial Page

http://petsupports.com/a04/sakari.htm


#36    QuiteContrary

QuiteContrary

    BugWhisperer

  • Member
  • 4,660 posts
  • Joined:06 Mar 2012
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Tejas

  • "I'm an optimistic, don't know." Onslow

Posted 14 March 2013 - 02:19 AM

What's better than a documentary on finding bigfoot, but a documentary about the documentary on finding bigfoot.
They're Don Quixote and we're making Man of La Mancha. (Shawn on "Psych")
lol

Edited by QuiteContrary, 14 March 2013 - 02:20 AM.

Keep your eyes wide open and don't run!

P.S. Just to be clear, because sometimes I am not. I do not believe...
in the existence of a large previously unknown undiscovered hairy biped roaming North America.
But I like to hear the accounts, read the books, watch the shows, discuss and argue about the phenomenon.

#37    QuiteContrary

QuiteContrary

    BugWhisperer

  • Member
  • 4,660 posts
  • Joined:06 Mar 2012
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Tejas

  • "I'm an optimistic, don't know." Onslow

Posted 14 March 2013 - 02:34 AM

View PostSakari, on 14 March 2013 - 01:38 AM, said:

One has to wonder how many years of nothing will it take of zero evidence that a large bipedal, breeding population of primates live throughout the world.

1951 a " Yeti " footprint was photographed. This ( arguably ) is a good starting date. ( no, Indians did not talk about Bigfoot, there stories are about supernatural things, different in different regions )......Anyway....

We have 62 years of claims, and not one solid piece of evidence......

Ugh, here I go again, same thing, different year......

Anyway, folklore will be around as long as we are. The Bigfoot thing, especially in this day and age is just insane. I have trouble thinking anyone that actually researchs things would even have any " belief " in it.

Completely agree.
I wonder what percentage of "believers" or interested skeptics are really not about the truth anymore. They know better. But the interest continues, for various other reasons.

Keep your eyes wide open and don't run!

P.S. Just to be clear, because sometimes I am not. I do not believe...
in the existence of a large previously unknown undiscovered hairy biped roaming North America.
But I like to hear the accounts, read the books, watch the shows, discuss and argue about the phenomenon.

#38    keninsc

keninsc

    Poltergeist

  • Validating
  • 3,234 posts
  • Joined:08 Mar 2012
  • Gender:Not Selected

  • The problem with people who have no vices is that generally you can be pretty sure they're going to have some pretty annoying virtues. Liz Taylor

Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:01 AM

Must you quote him so as to make my ignore function useless?


#39    Tia

Tia

    The Naughty Angel.

  • Member
  • 6,272 posts
  • Joined:25 Mar 2004
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Blue Mountains

Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:34 AM

View Postkeninsc, on 14 March 2013 - 03:01 AM, said:

Must you quote him so as to make my ignore function useless?

I agree, mines not at Sakari though.

As to the ignorant poster on the other page..yes migration time. When you and others who can back your research up have studied something for years day in day out, feel free to share then. :yes:

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. Gandhi.
HEY I WON!

#40    DieChecker

DieChecker

    I'm a Rogue Scholar

  • Member
  • 17,246 posts
  • Joined:21 Nov 2005
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Portland, Oregon, USA

  • Hey, I'm not wrong. I'm just not completely right.

Posted 14 March 2013 - 04:11 AM

Sorry Ken!

View PostSakari, on 14 March 2013 - 01:38 AM, said:

One has to wonder how many years of nothing will it take of zero evidence that a large bipedal, breeding population of primates live throughout the world.

Come on Sakari..... There are people who still believe in the Hollow Earth, and the Flat Earth, and Dragons, and Dinosaurs and men living together, and that Thor is a real god, and some that believe we've never been to the Moon. Believing in bigfoot, a shadowy ape that lives outside the cities were 99% of us live is really not so hard...

Just watch Jay Walking, or any of these Man-On-The-Street questioning shows. Almost everyone is apparently an uneducated idiot, the smart people either don't go out, or they are simply few and far between. There are hundreds of millions of internet users out there and only, what, a few hundreds that post here regularly... because most of those people online are watching movies, shopping, cruising Facebook or TMZ.com, or they are simply watching Porn. That is the bulk of todays computer users, simple folk, who are basically uninformed and don't really care that they are.

Bigfoot is going to go on FOREVER!!! Bwah, Ha, Ha......

Edited by DieChecker, 14 March 2013 - 04:12 AM.

Here at Intel we make processors on 12 inch wafers. And, the individual processors on the wafers are called die. And, I am employed to check these die. That is why I am the DieChecker.

At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do not cease to be insipid. - Friedrich Nietzsche

Qualifications? This is cryptozoology, dammit! All that is required is the spirit of adventure. - Night Walker

#41    QuiteContrary

QuiteContrary

    BugWhisperer

  • Member
  • 4,660 posts
  • Joined:06 Mar 2012
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Tejas

  • "I'm an optimistic, don't know." Onslow

Posted 14 March 2013 - 04:26 AM

View PostTia, on 13 March 2013 - 11:14 AM, said:

If anything I feel sad now. I have deliberately cut out our guys.

As I was going to move I had to stop the active exchange with our guys as I didn't want them risking coming close to the house or to others. I don't think they would have when they realized I was gone but it wasn't something to risk. I've done every thing I can to protect these guys after I learnt the hard way not to trust others.

I then spent a year out of action with illness, so now if I go for a bush walk I will sometimes get signs like calls that they are still around but thought it best to leave it alone. It's about migration time here so the group should be moving on over winter.

It makes me angry that people go out there making money, the odds of having any contact in the first night out is massive it takes months or even longer of constant multiple visits before you may get lucky enough to start making contact.

As far as Joy in Bigfoot, I could certainly see the "joy" in interacting with these creatures, just like any animal. So, an honest question. Why do you think they do not  interact with us, after all this time? What made me ask was the recent posted video of the guy who visited  the gorilla he raised and then returned to the wild.  Their connection seemed so different, imo, than say a human and a tiger or bear. I would think bf would desire a relationship with us, have a strong connection or strong desire to connect with humans. They don't get hunted and shot and so that is not something they'd worry about. No belief/nonbelief here, but what seems like a reasonable question to me. I'd like to hear an answer from someone who knows these animals. I would think they could relate to us and want to socialize with us, or at least allow us a lot more easily into their world than where we are currently, after all this time.

Edited by QuiteContrary, 14 March 2013 - 04:27 AM.

Keep your eyes wide open and don't run!

P.S. Just to be clear, because sometimes I am not. I do not believe...
in the existence of a large previously unknown undiscovered hairy biped roaming North America.
But I like to hear the accounts, read the books, watch the shows, discuss and argue about the phenomenon.

#42    DieChecker

DieChecker

    I'm a Rogue Scholar

  • Member
  • 17,246 posts
  • Joined:21 Nov 2005
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Portland, Oregon, USA

  • Hey, I'm not wrong. I'm just not completely right.

Posted 14 March 2013 - 04:30 AM

I remember having a good time talking about whats-her-name. The lady in Hawaii who is friends with the Telepathic Multi-dimensional bigfoots. Jane somthing....??

That was a fun discussion...

Here at Intel we make processors on 12 inch wafers. And, the individual processors on the wafers are called die. And, I am employed to check these die. That is why I am the DieChecker.

At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do not cease to be insipid. - Friedrich Nietzsche

Qualifications? This is cryptozoology, dammit! All that is required is the spirit of adventure. - Night Walker

#43    Stardrive

Stardrive

    Resident Bass Guitarist

  • Member
  • 3,155 posts
  • Joined:15 Nov 2005
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Virginia

Posted 14 March 2013 - 04:54 AM

View PostQuiteContrary, on 14 March 2013 - 04:26 AM, said:

As far as Joy in Bigfoot, I could certainly see the "joy" in interacting with these creatures, just like any animal. So, an honest question. Why do you think they do not  interact with us, after all this time? What made me ask was the recent posted video of the guy who visited  the gorilla he raised and then returned to the wild.  Their connection seemed so different, imo, than say a human and a tiger or bear. I would think bf would desire a relationship with us, have a strong connection or strong desire to connect with humans. They don't get hunted and shot and so that is not something they'd worry about. No belief/nonbelief here, but what seems like a reasonable question to me. I'd like to hear an answer from someone who knows these animals. I would think they could relate to us and want to socialize with us, or at least allow us a lot more easily into their world than where we are currently, after all this time.
I never really considered this aspect......  until recently.

Posted Image

#44    hatecraft

hatecraft

    Alien Embryo

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 96 posts
  • Joined:14 Feb 2012

Posted 14 March 2013 - 01:13 PM

View PostTia, on 14 March 2013 - 03:34 AM, said:



As to the ignorant poster on the other page..yes migration time. When you and others who can back your research up have studied something for years day in day out, feel free to share then. :yes:

Ok, then educate me.  When they migrate, do they use secret underground tunnels or fly in spaceships?  Surely thousands of 9' tall 800 lb animals would leave some evidence of such a migration.  Maybe they just teleport.


#45    Night Walker

Night Walker

    Psychic Spy

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,049 posts
  • Joined:23 Oct 2009
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Where women glow and men plunder

  • We're all storytellers. We all live in a network of stories. There isn't a stronger connection between people than storytelling.

    J.M. Smith

Posted 14 March 2013 - 09:40 PM

View PostQuiteContrary, on 13 March 2013 - 11:18 PM, said:

I first though about comparing it to ghost walks/tours, etc. But for me, it is just not the same.

Bigfoot is some real, natural, physical animal.

It is born, eats, breeds, and dies,  like any other scientifically verified animal.

Expeditions, etc are  like going bird-watching not going on a ghost tour. There is a totally different mindset expected of the participants created by hype mixed with quite a bit of "science" and "facts" and "experiences" etc. And a few scientist supporters as well.

(I'm not sure if I've explained it well)

So, for me the paranormal and bigfoot can be two complelely different things. And therefore, so too can the dishonesty/deceit/fraud factor.

Ghost walks are consumer-friendly ghost-themed historical tours. Legend-trips are more spontaneous and personal in nature - like sneaking in to explore the local haunted cemetary at midnight or kids secretly performing the Bloody Mary ritual with their friends in defiance of parental warnings. Have you never done so? The ilicit or forbidden nature of the legend-performance is a key ingredient. Admittedly, legend-tripping is associated moreso with youth and rites of passage but there is nothing wrong with being young-at-heart (which is largely what the Joy of Bigfoot is about) - give it a go...

Of course Bigfoot and the paranormal could be two completely different things but they are not. That "researchers" talk-up the fictitious biological aspects is an essential part of the legend of Bigfoot and also then the legend-tripping experience of Bigfoot. If Bigfoot could be real and the things that go bump in the night are real then combining the two gives the Bigfoot experience. Add the social element - "Oh my god! What was that!?!" - and the experience can become electrifying! (I reckon it is also possible to actually induce Bigfoot sightings in such emotionally-charged and perceptually-ambiguous situations.)

The Bigfoot experience is more akin with an adult-version of the subjective legend-tripping experience - the illicit/forbidden aspects for adults include broader cultural disproval for such things ("Are you crazy?", "Grow up!") and the real genuine fears of being out in the wilderness (vehicle breaking down, animal predators, poionous spiders and snakes getting lost etc). In my experience it is surprising how such concerns by themselves can produce feelings of dread whilst alone in the wilds miles from anywhere. Imagine what adding the "reality" of Bigfoot can do when it is dark and there appears to be something large moving about nearby...

Posted Image Yes! Canada's most fearsome predator. The Kodiak Marmoset – it's the world's largest smallest primate. "My God! He's killing us..."

The Yowie-ocalypse is upon us...




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users