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[bobby88]

regi, on 21 August 2012 - 12:11 PM, said:

Yeah, I would have thought that, but I don't know what the reason for that was.
I'd like to know how the police (at the time) viewed the delay in filing the report. I guess the family could have been giving the situation the benefit of the doubt and didn't want to involve the police, despite that it was contradictory to the notion that it was apparently against Johnnie's character/routine to just take off.
I would imagine that the family would search any place, no matter how remote the possibility. As far as skid row, they would surely have known that Johnnie would have had no means of getting by. Regardless, I think they were just looking anywhere to try to find him.
I think there could be reasonable explanations for these things that might appear odd.
In other words, I think these things could appear odd because there's a lot we don't know.
I'm curious. Where did you get the info that the brother didn't go to the party?

I think it would have stated if the brother was at the party as well, and since it doesn't, I personally feel it's safe to assume that he wasn't in attendance.

The reason I'm suspicious about the party is because at no time have I ever found anything that explicitly states the Johnnie actually LEFT the party that night. Being seen attending a party is very different than being seen leaving the party. So for all we know at this point, Johnnie may never have left that house on the 700 block of W. Cedar St. (where the party was held) alive.

[regi]

Well, I agree that it's strongly inferred, and I'd be inclined to assume that the brother didn't go to the party.
I think it's most likely that the twin didn't know the people there, or didn't know them well enough. His memories of his relationship with Johnnie are more from childhood than what would have been from more recent years.

I certainly understand you're curiosity about the party. It was the last place Johnnie was known to be...the last place he was "seen", as they said, and detailed info. about that party is critical.
It's frustrating to not have even the basics of facts... like what danged time it was that he was last "seen."
And what about McDonald's? What were the circumstances of that possible sighting? What TIME was that, and did it coincide with the time he would have left the party?

I don't know why we don't know this info.
It's conspicuously absent from the info regarding the circumstances of his disappearance, and it's fundamental info.!

Edited by regi, 22 August 2012 - 12:28 PM.

[bobby88]

regi, on 22 August 2012 - 12:25 PM, said:

Well, I agree that it's strongly inferred, and I'd be inclined to assume that the brother didn't go to the party.
I think it's most likely that the twin didn't know the people there, or didn't know them well enough. His memories of his relationship with Johnnie are more from childhood than what would have been from more recent years.

I certainly understand you're curiosity about the party. It was the last place Johnnie was known to be...the last place he was "seen", as they said, and detailed info. about that party is critical.
It's frustrating to not have even the basics of facts... like what danged time it was that he was last "seen."
And what about McDonald's? What were the circumstances of that possible sighting? What TIME was that, and did it coincide with the time he would have left the party?

I don't know why we don't know this info.
It's conspicuously absent from the info regarding the circumstances of his disappearance, and it's fundamental info.!

There seems to be a bit of a discrepancy about the date Johnnie went missing. The date he is said to have been last seen, 8/27/71, was a Friday. However on his Namus page, the approximate time he was allegedly last seen is listed as 00:30, which is equivalent to midnight on a standard clock. So I'm wondering if the party was actually on the night of the 26th and carried over into the early morning hours of the 27th. Or the party was held on the 27th and spilled into the the early morning hours of the 28th.I have a feeling that the party was on the 26th because on the death certificate that Johnnie's brother Joe made out, Johnnie's date of death is listed as 8/26/71. This would make sense if the party was on the 26th because Joe did not go to the party with Johnnie and the last time he would have seen his brother would be as Johnnie was leaving their home to go there. It would have been the other people at the party who would have seen him at midnight.

Namus also has this adorable picture of Johnnie at age seven.

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[regi]

Okay....per the party people/person, Johnnie was last seen at 12:30am.
So, regarding the possible sighting at McDonald's- if that time is accurate and the sighting was the same early morn, and it was indeed Johnnie who was seen, then it would be unlikely that Johnnie would have gone there for food... at that hour... correct?

Yeah, we already have two dates... the date that the brother last saw Johnnie, and then the date that Johnnie was said to be last seen by others.
Whichever record(s) isn't/aren't accurate should be amended to reflect the correct info..
It's assumed and expected that all info contained in a report is entirely accurate to the best of anyone's knowledge, and when it's found not to be, then it should be immediately corrected. Period.

[bobby88]

I'd love to know more about the alleged McDonald's sighting. When was it? Did the witness actually talk to Johnnie, or just see him? Was Johnnie actually in the McDonald's or just driving or walking by the building? How was Johnnie behaving? Was he acting normally or was he nervous or frightened? Did this witness actually know Johnnie personally? Was the witness another customer or an employee?

[regi]

The article only briefly mentioned that sighting. If it was checked out, then it must have been considered weak for some reason because it's not officially considered as the last sighting.

[bobby88]

Johnnie has been missing for 41 years today.

[bobby88]

Johnnie's identical twin brother Joe made the missing persons report 41 years ago today.

[bobby88]

Bump. Hopefully, 2013 will be the year someone comes forward with info that will help find Johnnie.